South Wales Hauliers sixties and seventies onwards (Part 1)

hi all,
here’s one of beer’s 401’s loaded with timber.

the crown buckley brewery in pontyclyn ran these aec’s for many years.sadly they have gone,the brewery is a housing estate and the lorries are gone.

ronnie s. evans from llanelli has a varied artic bulk tipper fleet.one of their many regular runs is taking scrap t.v.'s to sweden.

just to prove that welsh men can rope and sheet as good as bewick’s boys can,here’s one of cwmcarn based gerry jones’ man’s.

and a gerry jones tautliner.

I can remember before Gerry Jones went all Man, there was Sed Akti 311’s, Strato’s [flat roof and cruisers], 2 series Scania rigid and a Merc wrecker.

hi all,
newport based wynns are an iconic heavy haulage company,that are very well known for the movement of all manner of abnormal loads.this image was used on a company calender many years ago.i think that the first atki. in this shot is now owned by cadzow heavy haulage of blantyre?

noisy jake:

sammyopisite:

harry_gill:

143topline:

pete 359:
an early wynns scammell contractor mk.1these old girls would pull a house down. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

i remember taking this photo south of worcester on the A38 late 60’s

hiya,
Great old motors just the job for dragging extinct mainline loco’s from Lancs down to Barry loco graveyard would have pulled two and still had some to spare, but you did need the power it was a canny old hill into there.
thanks harry long retired.

Those old motors were rated at 240 tons train weight and I know they have pulled over 300 tons on there own but they were a bit ■■■■■■■■■■ around town :laughing:
cheers Johnnie

hi Johnnie, actually this model was rated for 110 - 150 tons and known as “lightweight contractors”!!! the 240 ton contractors and the 250 ton mk2’s had the larger coachbuilt cabs and larger wheels.they were rated very conservatively by Scammell and could quite easily handle twice that weight. WYNNS used them for twenty years because nothing else came close for capability and reliability. thats quite a recomendation in anyones book! cheers Mark

It looks as though that wagon as got the big contractor wheels and hubs as the 125 ton juniors ran on 1100 tyres and smaller hubs but Scammell did turn out some specials for their main customers they did make several single cab 240 tonners when they came out as each contractor were more or less tailor made as when we first got them they were able to double the pulling capacity of what we had up to then
cheers Johnnie

welsh transport giant,owens road services have more tippers than ever now,here is an early model fh with an owens bulker.

Hi andrew see a lot of owens on the M5 daily some look realy smart and some look a bit bland throught it a shame when they lost the stripes but getting used to them now havent seen them with tippers chhers ian

caddy1:
Hi andrew see a lot of owens on the M5 daily some look realy smart and some look a bit bland throught it a shame when they lost the stripes but getting used to them now havent seen them with tippers chhers ian

hi ian,
thanks for that,yes i thought that their older type colour scheme was better.they have a large operation these days,some do look alot better than others,usually as a result of many drivers sharing a yard full of vehicles,as oppossed to some companies who have a one driver,one truck policy.they must have dozens of tippers as i see them regularly up and down the m4.
regards andrew

altitude:

pete 359:
here’s a south wales haulier’s truck that i know nothing about (other than it’s an old iron lung scammell rigid 8 ) :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: .it says on the door p&p transport co.old refinery,bridgend.anyone know anything? lynxman,dai davies, certain trucknet members of a more experienced era than myself someone may know something?

Look at the wheels on the thing. :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

Bit of info on Scammel from Bridgend it was owned by Palmer & Palmer the old foundry Bridgend. They were a very old firm that run the steam Fodens back and fore London.They later became Anstey & Palmer and became part of British Road Services Regards Dai Davies

hello dai.
thanks for that information and well done for posting mate.
regards andrew

talking of owens,here is one i saw today delivering to one of our business neighbour’s.she hasn’t had the owens fleet blue treatment yet. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: .

sammyopisite:

noisy jake:

sammyopisite:

harry_gill:

143topline:

pete 359:
an early wynns scammell contractor mk.1these old girls would pull a house down. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

i remember taking this photo south of worcester on the A38 late 60’s

hiya,
Great old motors just the job for dragging extinct mainline loco’s from Lancs down to Barry loco graveyard would have pulled two and still had some to spare, but you did need the power it was a canny old hill into there.
thanks harry long retired.

Those old motors were rated at 240 tons train weight and I know they have pulled over 300 tons on there own but they were a bit ■■■■■■■■■■ around town :laughing:
cheers Johnnie

hi Johnnie, actually this model was rated for 110 - 150 tons and known as “lightweight contractors”!!! the 240 ton contractors and the 250 ton mk2’s had the larger coachbuilt cabs and larger wheels.they were rated very conservatively by Scammell and could quite easily handle twice that weight. WYNNS used them for twenty years because nothing else came close for capability and reliability. thats quite a recomendation in anyones book! cheers Mark

It looks as though that wagon as got the big contractor wheels and hubs as the 125 ton juniors ran on 1100 tyres and smaller hubs but Scammell did turn out some specials for their main customers they did make several single cab 240 tonners when they came out as each contractor were more or less tailor made as when we first got them they were able to double the pulling capacity of what we had up to then
cheers Johnnie

hi Johnnie
unless i’m mistaken the 125 ton juniors ,that you refer to, were constructors rather than contractors as these were the only "heavy tractors " to use 11.00 tyres. you’re right about the big hubs on this tractor but the 240 tonners had larger & wider wheels making them considerably wider than the “smaller” 110-150 tonners. sorry to sound like an anorak but i’ve always had a soft spot for these old girls.they have something that a lot of lorries today just don’t~sheer presence :sunglasses: cheers Mark
ps who were you working for when you had the scammells?

noisy jake:

sammyopisite:

noisy jake:

sammyopisite:

harry_gill:

143topline:

pete 359:
an early wynns scammell contractor mk.1these old girls would pull a house down. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

i remember taking this photo south of worcester on the A38 late 60’s

hiya,
Great old motors just the job for dragging extinct mainline loco’s from Lancs down to Barry loco graveyard would have pulled two and still had some to spare, but you did need the power it was a canny old hill into there.
thanks harry long retired.

Those old motors were rated at 240 tons train weight and I know they have pulled over 300 tons on there own but they were a bit ■■■■■■■■■■ around town :laughing:
cheers Johnnie

hi Johnnie, actually this model was rated for 110 - 150 tons and known as “lightweight contractors”!!! the 240 ton contractors and the 250 ton mk2’s had the larger coachbuilt cabs and larger wheels.they were rated very conservatively by Scammell and could quite easily handle twice that weight. WYNNS used them for twenty years because nothing else came close for capability and reliability. thats quite a recomendation in anyones book! cheers Mark

It looks as though that wagon as got the big contractor wheels and hubs as the 125 ton juniors ran on 1100 tyres and smaller hubs but Scammell did turn out some specials for their main customers they did make several single cab 240 tonners when they came out as each contractor were more or less tailor made as when we first got them they were able to double the pulling capacity of what we had up to then
cheers Johnnie

hi Johnnie
unless i’m mistaken the 125 ton juniors ,that you refer to, were constructors rather than contractors as these were the only "heavy tractors " to use 11.00 tyres. you’re right about the big hubs on this tractor but the 240 tonners had larger & wider wheels making them considerably wider than the “smaller” 110-150 tonners. sorry to sound like an anorak but i’ve always had a soft spot for these old girls.they have something that a lot of lorries today just don’t~sheer presence :sunglasses: cheers Mark
ps who were you working for when you had the scammells?

Hi Mark I was at Pickfords Sheffield and we had one out of the first batch of contractors PGO712E and one out of the first batch of junior contractors SJD802F as I recall they were only in 6x4 where as the constructor you could have 6x4 and 6x6 which we had at the time I have a picture out of the Scammell book of them I don’t think you can make it out but it does say contractor on the side of the bonnet of the junior and it is a sister motor of the one at our depot I think it could have based at Liverpool driven by ■■■■ there is also a picture of the one which started me off lol which I will post the picture of PGO712E is moving a load from Folkstone docks to Dungerness power station as there were several and I was on one of the movements as they had been shipped in from Larne and we loaded them off the ferry and took them through during the night.
cheers Johnnie

this is no scammell, :laughing: though its definatley from south wales.robert davies motors are based in cardigan,they run several of these smart daf’s.this one has recently been with us for paintwork to the chassis and body.

it amazes me how these trucks can cope with the weight of two vehicles.

chris143:

pete 359:
hi lads,
here we go with some more from dai davies from tondu.usk mouth power station,quite a few years ago

hi mate, isnt that f7 ken Davies from Llanharan?

the f7 on that poto is Phillip Lewis from Llanharan. Ken Davies had a red F86. Dai Davies

pete 359:
i don’t know where this is? blaengarw maybe?

This photo is E J Miles of Cymmer Nr Port Talbot . Dai Davies.