pete 359:
hi all,
a few here of entress transport,back in the day……
These are two of the units I had on Entress. The Daf 2300 was a demonstrator I had from new which Entress kept and had a coach diff fitted,would’nt pull but was fast.
pete 359:
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Nice load of tinplate there Andrew, I recall when we used to load the Octopus and trailer we put a single row of packs down to the rear bogies then two doubles with a single at the backend. The trailer got a single row down it. Then we ( me!) rolled out a folded main sheet over the packs and then we put a fly sheet over and tightened them like a drum skin ! and yes we did rope over the fly but I wasn’t the G’uvnor nor was I concerned at that time in the 60’s 
When we got rolling it was a nice sight to look backwards out of the rear quarter window on the Octopus and view the nice tidy load of 20 ton of tin plate, Oh! and sail past those 150 and 180 engined 20 ton artics of the S.Wales boys up the M5 !! Great times unfortunately gone forever 
Dennis.
This happend last week ,we are doing a lot of work to Hinckley point this lorry full of rebar travelled from Newport arriving at the freight holding centre as he turned the trailer came off, it cannot be moved unless by low loader as vosa put a probition order on it police also involved ,the security said the trailer 5th wheel wasn’t locked properly how it never came off on the motorway is a mystery
smallcoal:
This happend last week ,we are doing a lot of work to Hinckley point this lorry full of rebar travelled from Newport arriving at the freight holding centre as he turned the trailer came off, it cannot be moved unless by low loader as vosa put a probition order on it police also involved ,the security said the trailer 5th wheel wasn’t locked properly how it never came off on the motorway is a mystery
That looks a bit fishy to me, the 5th wheel lever is fully extended and the jaws look like they are completely open, I find it hard to believe that it travelled from Newport like that, I’ve seen a couple of miscoupled 5th wheels and one had the lever fully in and the jaws closed and the pin was sat on top of the jaws, and the other the lever was part in and the jaws part closed and the second tug pulled the unit and trailer apart whereas the first tug held, this one though looks to me like someone pulled the pin on him and not too long before it happened, maybe in the queue?
I’m sure there are other types of miscouplings that I haven’t seen but still.
And I’m sorry but what the hell would security know about it?
Most security personnel you have to point them in the right direction to find the back of the trailer, let alone know whether one was secured properly and was dog clipped!
Anyway sorry for the ot
Reef:
smallcoal:
This happend last week ,we are doing a lot of work to Hinckley point this lorry full of rebar travelled from Newport arriving at the freight holding centre as he turned the trailer came off, it cannot be moved unless by low loader as vosa put a probition order on it police also involved ,the security said the trailer 5th wheel wasn’t locked properly how it never came off on the motorway is a mysteryThat looks a bit fishy to me, the 5th wheel lever is fully extended and the jaws look like they are completely open, I find it hard to believe that it travelled from Newport like that, I’ve seen a couple of miscoupled 5th wheels and one had the lever fully in and the jaws closed and the pin was sat on top of the jaws, and the other the lever was part in and the jaws part closed and the second tug pulled the unit and trailer apart whereas the first tug held, this one though looks to me like someone pulled the pin on him and not too long before it happened, maybe in the queue?
I’m sure there are other types of miscouplings that I haven’t seen but still.And I’m sorry but what the hell would security know about it?
Most security personnel you have to point them in the right direction to find the back of the trailer, let alone know whether one was secured properly and was dog clipped!Anyway sorry for the ot
hi Reef,
Have to say that i am with you on this,I really can’t see how that could happen at all.i know every new tractor unit we’ve had at work in the past 4-5 years has had the latest generation fifth wheels fitted,their design has a spring loaded automatic catch system that removes the need for the dog clip,though some still use one.the fifth wheel on my merc has this type fitted.i bought it new last year,it came with four sealed certification tags attached to it.each and everyone of the fifth wheels are tested extensively,as is law prior to individual certification and before they ever leave the assembly hall.looks like the MCL actros has the same type to me? someone pulled the pin imo……
regards andrew.
Hi all,
I saw this 113 in a customers yard recently…
pete 359:
Hi all,
I saw this 113 in a customers yard recently…
Tidy… 
pete 359:
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Hi Andrew, those were the days of truck racing…castle donnington 1983/4?
Does anyone remember Roberts transport ross on Wyes Atkinson tippers and erf units
Nmp
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Does anyone remember Roberts transport ross on Wyes Atkinson tippers and erf units
Nmp
smallcoal:
This happend last week ,we are doing a lot of work to Hinckley point this lorry full of rebar travelled from Newport arriving at the freight holding centre as he turned the trailer came off, it cannot be moved unless by low loader as vosa put a probition order on it police also involved ,the security said the trailer 5th wheel wasn’t locked properly how it never came off on the motorway is a mystery
This brings to mind an excruciatingly embarrassing incident in about 1973. I was pulling for Pritchett bros and was the only one to volunteer to go to SPD in Dundee for Easter Monday. Collected at Van de Bergh’s on the Wirral on Friday. This was a Pritchett 40’ van, loaded with about 15 tons of margarine, all at the front end. parked up in a lay by near the old little chef on the A590 ready for an early start Monday (incidentally, I can’t believe that I never had a load stolen in those days when leaving the trailer parked up overnight).
5.am Monday morning, backed under the trailer, felt it click. Connected the airlines…
The lay by was at about 90 degrees to the road. As soon as I set off, I knew there was something wrong and pressed the brake. Aargh - a second too late. The trailer slid gently off the back of the fifth wheel, all the weight was at the front, the legs collapsed and it was on the floor blocking half of the A590!
Eventually a cop arrived and I phoned Bill Keith who came out with his wrecker- great looking Foden IIRC? - anyone any photos? He lifted it and we supported it on blocks and I was able to back under it again.
At some point, when it was dangling on the wrecker about 3’ in the air, Bill said, climb underneath and … What he wanted me to do I can’t remember! I wouldn’t have gone into that space for any money - I still have nightmares about the cable parting and instant death!
Crane Fruehauf at Warrington put new legs on it and good old Pritchetts deducted £100 - a lot of money back then for the L shaped cut in the front of the van, caused by the wrecker boom,which Crane didn’t fix - and nor did Pritchetts! It obviously didn’t leak enough to be a problem.
The miserable tw** of a cop saw an easy pull and I think I got a fine and points!
I delivered to Dundee about 5 hours late!
Happy Easter!
John
I don’t know if you remember it or not John, but on the office wall at Pritchett’s, next to the window that the drivers were meant to use, there used to be a poster warning about some problem or other with Jost fifth wheels. It was there for a long time. Months, possibly years, I can’t remember precisely.
I can’t remember the exact nature of the problem either although I must have read the thing umpteen times. It may have been a notice about a recall or something similar. I had a Big J fitted with a York Big D, so to be honest, I didn’t care, it wasn’t my problem.
It was to become my problem several years later however when I was sent down to the aluminium plant on Anglesey to pick up a tank trailer. The trailer in question was fully loaded with bitumen that had solidified due to some kind of failure with the heater coil, or whatever, I’ve never done tankers, but it was heavy.
The unit that I was using was an ex Pandoro Mk 2 Atki with yes, you’ve guessed it, a Jost fifth wheel. I backed under the trailer, heard it clunk, gave it a ■■■■■■, then climbed down, wound the legs up and blew the brakes off. The spring loaded section was missing from the safety clip so I didn’t bother with it, after all, who needs safety clips ?
I think I made it about 300 yards across the complex before the unit and trailer parted company. Apart from stretched air lines, a couple of busted lenses, and a dent in my street cred, no serious damage done.
The odd thing was however, the locking bar was still in, and the jaws were closed. Figure that one. With the assistance of a couple of fork trucks and a nut and bolt in place of the dog clip I arrived back at base without further incident.
I mentioned the occurrence to a former employer a while afterwards and was surprised to learn that the same thing had happened to a couple of his drivers on two separate occasions, both incidents involving Jost fifth wheels. When the ministry had gone to the scene, the jaws were in the closed position.
I never did get to the bottom of the mystery, but needless to say I never ran without the safety clip again, and I also cultivated the habit of going under with a torch every time I coupled up to check that the bar was across. Possibly thanks to that, I made it to the shores of the promised land without losing any more trailers. One time in a person’s career is one time too many.
Regards. Eddie.
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Hi all,
pERFection 14 will get the location.number 10 cae wetral in kenfig hill.The MAN that Sid evans drove back then…
Eddie Heaton:
I don’t know if you remember it or not John, but on the office wall at Pritchett’s, next to the window that the drivers were meant to use, there used to be a poster warning about some problem or other with Jost fifth wheels. It was there for a long time. Months, possibly years, I can’t remember precisely.I can’t remember the exact nature of the problem either although I must have read the thing umpteen times. It may have been a notice about a recall or something similar. I had a Big J fitted with a York Big D, so to be honest, I didn’t care, it wasn’t my problem.
It was to become my problem several years later however when I was sent down to the aluminium plant on Anglesey to pick up a tank trailer. The trailer in question was fully loaded with bitumen that had solidified due to some kind of failure with the heater coil, or whatever, I’ve never done tankers, but it was heavy.
The unit that I was using was an ex Pandoro Mk 2 Atki with yes, you’ve guessed it, a Jost fifth wheel. I backed under the trailer, heard it clunk, gave it a ■■■■■■, then climbed down, wound the legs up and blew the brakes off. The spring loaded section was missing from the safety clip so I didn’t bother with it, after all, who needs safety clips ?
I think I made it about 300 yards across the complex before the unit and trailer parted company. Apart from stretched air lines, a couple of busted lenses, and a dent in my street cred, no serious damage done.
The odd thing was however, the locking bar was still in, and the jaws were closed. Figure that one. With the assistance of a couple of fork trucks and a nut and bolt in place of the dog clip I arrived back at base without further incident.
I mentioned the occurrence to a former employer a while afterwards and was surprised to learn that the same thing had happened to a couple of his drivers on two separate occasions, both incidents involving Jost fifth wheels. When the ministry had gone to the scene, the jaws were in the closed position.
I never did get to the bottom of the mystery, but needless to say I never ran without the safety clip again, and I also cultivated the habit of going under with a torch every time I coupled up to check that the bar was across. Possibly thanks to that, I made it to the shores of the promised land without losing any more trailers. One time in a person’s career is one time too many.
Regards. Eddie.
Hi Eddie,
Just seen your post!
I think both the Mastiffs had Big D 5th wheels, don’t remember the Jost warnings.
Yes, like you, I learned from my mistake and always (yes always) climbed underneath to check that the bar had slid behind ever after! Never had another one slide off the back - I’m sure that would have been instant dismissal at Bewick’s!
Not sure whether I always clipped it in place - I can’t say it occurred to me that it might bounce back out - but there must have been some explanation.
John.
