SJB:
What does he mean about cutting breaks short for ‘emergency deliveries’, is that code for putting tacho on break while tipping etc, that was the only real off-putting thing I read, contradicts the running legal statement he made earlier and part of me thinks if he felt the need to state he runs legal he probably doesn’t!
A break whilst tipping a tipper 
SJB:
What does he mean about cutting breaks short for ‘emergency deliveries’, is that code for putting tacho on break while tipping etc, that was the only real off-putting thing I read, contradicts the running legal statement he made earlier and part of me thinks if he felt the need to state he runs legal he probably doesn’t!
To be fair it would be more likely to just mean get moving after taking 30 or 45 minutes because the customer is waiting for it urgent instead of an hour or a 45 in that case.
Nite Owl:
SJB:
What does he mean about cutting breaks short for ‘emergency deliveries’, is that code for putting tacho on break while tipping etc, that was the only real off-putting thing I read, contradicts the running legal statement he made earlier and part of me thinks if he felt the need to state he runs legal he probably doesn’t!I read that as it’s his choice if you have 9 hours off instead of 11.
Me too which in my opinion is fair enough is its busy
switchlogic:
Nite Owl:
I read that as it’s his choice if you have 9 hours off instead of 11.Me too which in my opinion is fair enough is its busy
Obviously in tramper mode which is bad enough.It’s a tipper you have to commute home and back again and find time to eat and sleep etc.No problem robroy is up for it.Oh wait. 
A refreshing change these days, nice honest advert…
As a side note, I notice a fair few tipper firms drivers all congregated in the one lay by from time to time, looks like a right load of old women, nattering and obviously wasting time, I don`t like to see it, they should be working, not gathering together to exchange gossip.
Perhaps this boss wants the right people to avoid these kind of old women like blokes?
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
Juddian:
£ to a penny not a driver facing camera to be found there.Who needs that when he’ll be asking questions about every,perceived as, unproductive minute shown on the tacho.
I bet he won’t. It’s generally the ‘logistics specialists’ that do that. In my experience once you prove you can do the job without taking the ■■■■ and just get on with it employers like him are the ones who just leave you alone to get on with it
Oddly enough, other than my first few weeks as agency skum, I’ve only ever worked for major “logistics specialists” for well over a decade now. I’ve never once been challenged about “unproductive” time or had my choice of route etc queried (even if I decide to re-order things to suit my preferences). It has always been a case of “Here’s your paperwork, here are the keys, see you when you get back.” No phone calls, no micro-management, they’ll always ask me if I think a run is do-able (and act on my response). All for £14.50 or so an hour, no nights out, no reduced rests, no 10 hour drives, rarely above 40 hours worked in a week. I can’t see an employer like the one in the OP’s advert being anywhere near as accommodating.
What drugs do I need to pass the drug test
SJB:
What does he mean about cutting breaks short for ‘emergency deliveries’, is that code for putting tacho on break while tipping etc, that was the only real off-putting thing I read, contradicts the running legal statement he made earlier and part of me thinks if he felt the need to state he runs legal he probably doesn’t!
Can’t see a problem with having a break while loading/unloading, but then according to the gods on here, I’m a knuckle dragging dinosaur.
I like the sound of it as well ,any gaffer who doesn’t spout zb about logistics is all right in my book. If you are not involved in loading then you can bung it on break. The motor has to earn the firm has to turn a profit then you get your share, simples.
alamcculloch:
The motor has to earn the firm has to turn a profit then you get your share, simples.
Steady on old bean, wot give some value for decent money so the motor earns its keep the company makes a profit and we all live happily ever after? and out there in the real world where pointy shoed twerps are wisely kept at arms length this works 
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
But yes I’d reply to the ad…and ask him if he’d be interested in making it a job share on a 3 days on 4 days off rota and if not why not.
I’ve a funny feeling you’d not last five seconds on the phone to him let alone in the job
But it would be a laugh just to wind him up.
But seriously what’s the problem ?.As Rjan said the only answer can be that it makes them feel good to think that they are over working someone when there’s absolutely no need for it in many cases.
Wind him up? I doubt he’d give you another seconds thought. Trust me as anyone who’s had to find and employ drivers knows it takes an incredible amount to wind you up in that job.
As for the problem? 5 occasionally 6 days being over worked? I see why you’re struggling now. Most want full time jobs, it’s that simple. This is just your latest obsession took you move onto something else
m.a.n rules:
i believe in enjoying the right people.quote albion…would you care to expand madam…
I had to go back and edit that one!
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
But yes I’d reply to the ad…and ask him if he’d be interested in making it a job share on a 3 days on 4 days off rota and if not why not.I’ve a funny feeling you’d not last five seconds on the phone to him let alone in the job
But it would be a laugh just to wind him up.
But seriously what’s the problem ?.As Rjan said the only answer can be that it makes them feel good to think that they are over working someone when there’s absolutely no need for it in many cases.
That was never my reason. Sometimes Rjan talks bollox and if he said that, it’s a prime example.
switchlogic:
As for the problem? 5 occasionally 6 days being over worked? I see why you’re struggling now. Most want full time jobs, it’s that simple. This is just your latest obsession took you move onto something else
Really is that why 4 on 4 off is so sought after even with the downside of giving up some weekends.
Strange how you seem to confuse what those looking for ‘full time’ work want to what the employer wants.What does it matter to the employer if he’s got two part timers sharing the job as opposed to one full timer doing it ?.
Carryfast:
But yes I’d reply to the ad…and ask him if he’d be interested in making it a job share on a 3 days on 4 days off rota and if not why not.
Becuase it’s his company and he chooses how it operates, maybe it’s one driver per truck and he likes that as he knows who looking after them and who’s damaging them.
He made it quite clear what he wants and expects in the advert, if it doesn’t suit then you don’t apply, if you’re looking for different type of shifts then you apply to those who offer that sort of work.
My experience of working for hauliers like this is if you know the job and get on with it you’ll get very little interference from the office, plenty of other problems to worry about without keep hassling drivers who are doing what you employ them to do.
My experience of working in the office of said companies is you soon get to know who you can leave alone and who you need to keep a track of.
ETS:
Let me join the chorus in saying it’s an ok advert, better than 90% of what’s out there - the fact that they didn’t use “competitive salary” and “x days of paid holiday” where x is 20-24 under “Job advantage” already puts them in the top 10% of ads I’d call if I was looking for a job.
Considering your other posts you would be posting “Is this legal” after the first day. 
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
As for the problem? 5 occasionally 6 days being over worked? I see why you’re struggling now. Most want full time jobs, it’s that simple. This is just your latest obsession took you move onto something elseReally is that why 4 on 4 off is so sought after even with the downside of giving up some weekends.
Strange how you seem to confuse what those looking for ‘full time’ work want to what the employer wants.What does it matter to the employer if he’s got two part timers sharing the job as opposed to one full timer doing it ?.
What they employer wants? Hasnt a five day week been pretty standard for decades if no centuries. It’s just the normal working week, something you’d never even considered until five minutes ago when you decided you needed a job and five days doesn’t suit so suddenly now you’re some sort of expert on the subject. It also matters because as someone who’s been in the business of finding and employing drivers finding one decent driver is a near impossible task let alone two!
albion:
Carryfast:
But seriously what’s the problem ?.As Rjan said the only answer can be that it makes them feel good to think that they are over working someone when there’s absolutely no need for it in many cases.That was never my reason. Sometimes Rjan talks bollox and if he said that, it’s a prime example.
I recall discussing the matter of long hours with Carryfast. One of the main points I made was that all things equal (and there are many reasons why they may not be), and at equal hourly rates, bosses will prefer to employ people who are more, rather than less, desperate for the money. Or at least, if not desperate, then obviously more motivated for some other reason, in that they are choosing to work 5-days-a-week when they needn’t.
And that means they’d rather hire the one man who needs 5 days a week rather than hire two men who only need 2 or 3, because the 5-day-a-week man is likely further over the barrel than the 2-day-a-week man. If 5-day-a-week men are abundant in the market and bosses want to fill a 5-day-a-week (or more) gap in their workforce, bosses will look on the 2-day-a-week man with suspicion (unless perhaps they can find two such men at once who come on better recommendation than any 5-day-a-week man).
An example of an exception (at least in the past) is part-time women doing roles like payroll or bookkeeping. Many businesses didn’t need a full-timer in these roles, so the market could be expected to seek part-timers and produce a lot of experienced part-timers, and even if you’re a business that needs multiple FTEs, it’s easier to fish in this pond to fill and backfill a function.
In any business it also often provides sinecure positions for bosses’ wives and daughters and suchlike, and some aspects of financial administration might benefit from having trusting relationships which arise this way.
Moreover, women could (and still can) usually be paid far lower rates than men of equivalent calibre (for a variety of reasons I won’t rehearse), and in these ancillary staff roles where wages are already low, it does not matter if productivity is also a little lower on account of hiring part-time workers with lesser need to work.
Obviously without rehashing the whole discussion again (although I feel I’ve already come close), I don’t recognise Carryfast’s retelling of my arguments of why he may be struggling to persuade bosses looking for full-timers, that they should recruit him as a part-timer.
Roymondo:
I can’t see an employer like the one in the OP’s advert being anywhere near as accommodating.
Speaking from experience I assume…
Roymondo:
I’ve only ever worked for major “logistics specialists” for well over a decade now
switchlogic:
It also matters because as someone who’s been in the business of finding and employing drivers finding one decent driver is a near impossible task let alone two!
I’m bot surprised if you think that 9 hours daily rest is enough on a home every day commute type job.It all depends on your definition of decent and it’s clear that yours means a grovelling yes man who’ll say how high when you tell him to jump.
