I would welcome the chance to do it it’s got to be better then the 7 hours off bs I sat through this Saturday I would happily spend 7 hours learning something I didn’t know that could help someone because the crap I sat through Saturday hasn’t made any difference to mine or anyone else’s life and was a complete waste off a Saturday.
Ps I was lectured for an hour about nutrition what I should eat to minimise downtime and ill health, what times off the day I should be eating etc etc this was then followed by our “light lunch” an all day breakfast tesco sandwich cheese and onion or salt and vinegar crisps and a doughnut I rest my case.
Karl86:
Ps I was lectured for an hour about nutrition what I should eat to minimise downtime and ill health, what times off the day I should be eating etc etc this was then followed by our “light lunch” an all day tesco sandwich cheese and onion or salt and vinegar crisps and a doughnut I rest my case.
Hahaha!
You couldn’t make that up!
One day someone will offer a ‘healthy living and eating’ course where they actually provide the ingredients for a decent lunch and show you how to put it together.
Thinking about it…an idea for a TV show: prepare, cook, eat and clear up a healthy meal, in a truck cab, on a budget, in 45 minutes.
One for Jamie, Heston and Hugh Dirty-fingernails.
Hugh would no doubt start by gathering the ingredients from the roadside hedge.
“And for dessert we have these fresh blackberries with a light drizzle of the aromatic liquid that I found in this bottle…”
Karl86:
I would welcome the chance to do it it’s got to be better then the 7 hours off bs I sat through this Saturday I would happily spend 7 hours learning something I didn’t know that could help someone because the crap I sat through Saturday hasn’t made any difference to mine or anyone else’s life and was a complete waste off a Saturday.
Ps I was lectured for an hour about nutrition what I should eat to minimise downtime and ill health, what times off the day I should be eating etc etc this was then followed by our “light lunch” an all day breakfast tesco sandwich cheese and onion or salt and vinegar crisps and a doughnut I rest my case.
Must be cause I feel shafted after that I got 28 hours off it left yet I will happily sit there and learn I don’t think I’m a know all I know I have alot to learn but I won’t be learning anything from that crap. The best course you can go on is the one where you get in your lorry in the morning and go and do a days work.
From my experience the police should take this course first especially at night when they park cars all over the road with headlights on main bean and blind everyone that is approaching, one can only see white light and not the blue flashing lights.
Saaamon:
Some of you lot are [zb] idiots, a decent course is trying to be set up/supported by one of the very, very few bodies that are on our side yet it gets throwed back in there faces!
How long until this course is approved?
That’s a bit strong! It’s called freedom of choice mate.
Plus there is already to much compulsory in this industry, we don’t need any more.
Rikki-UK: http://truckanddriver.co.uk/2013/04/driver-first-assist-lifesaving-project-launched/
A new initiative that Truck & Driver are supporting - that may save a life - now that’s worth 7 hours of your time - with enough support the module will get approved by JAUPT- in my opinion it should be a compulsory module for all drivers, It only takes 4 minutes for someone to die from a blocked airway- Ambulance response times are at best 8 minutes from the call, not the incident- at worst a lot longer. By the very nature of the job lorry drivers maybe first on the scene- and spending 7 hours knowing what and what not to do in that situation seems to me to be time well spent- certainly better that customer care and other ■■■■■■■■
I agree with you Rikki and yes, I also believe it should be compulsory.
In Germany, the law states that If you do not act to prevent an accidental death, without endangering your own life, you become liable in law. ( I know there’ll be a flood of comments regarding this, but no, that doesn’t mean you have to jump into the river to pull someone out, but if you saw an accident, and didn’t do everything reasonably possible to assist the victims, you would probably be prosecuted. But then the Germans still have an effective, operative society!)
from what i heard you can be prosecuted for not helping but if you do help and do something wrong then they can sue you in germany. thats not really the ideal situation is it?
Rob K:
…followed by the very people you helped save their life then take you to court to sue you for injuries they’ve suffered. Plenty of cases where this has happened.
I’ll pass thanks.
Complete rubbish.
You can not sue someone for being a good samaritan. It has never happened, But many off duty doctors feared prosecution for this. It was therefore decided that an act of parliament was needed to confirm it. Good samaritan laws have been introduced throughout the world.
As for the jubilation about first aid being introduced into dcpc training. What a crock of [zb].
It’s been allowed since Dcpc training was first thought of. The only reason it has become newsworthy is because they can no longer find enough mugs to pay up for worthless training, They now feel they need to supply something worthwhile.
Firstly, apologies for the technical problems which mean the web site isn’t running yet. I’m told it will still be a couple of days. When it’s running, most of your questions will be answered.
The training isn’t primarily intended as a DCPC module, but its nature means it’s a useful additional benefit.
Granted, the cost may be an issue for individual drivers. However the expectation is that companies will pay to put volunteer drivers through the training.
Rikki is right that no-one has ever been sued for trying to help. This training equates to First Aid at Work training, which carries no duty of care. However DFA is aware of the concerns and membership will include full indemnity insurance.
The single fact that convinced me to support DFA is that 46% of road fatalities could be prevented by prompt basic attention. Currently 55% of road casualties are dead before the emergency services arrive. Their target response time is 8 minutes, but you’re dead after 4 minutes with a blocked airway.
If you want to know when and how to remove a motorcycle helmet to apply resuscitation, sign up one of the free “Rider Down” courses if your local emergency services run one. But basically, if someone isn’t breathing, you can’t make them any more dead.
Finally, if you’re going to Truckfest and want to discuss it, there will be a DFA presence on the T&D stand.
Rikki-UK: http://truckanddriver.co.uk/2013/04/driver-first-assist-lifesaving-project-launched/
A new initiative that Truck & Driver are supporting - that may save a life - now that’s worth 7 hours of your time - with enough support the module will get approved by JAUPT- in my opinion it should be a compulsory module for all drivers, It only takes 4 minutes for someone to die from a blocked airway- Ambulance response times are at best 8 minutes from the call, not the incident- at worst a lot longer. By the very nature of the job lorry drivers maybe first on the scene- and spending 7 hours knowing what and what not to do in that situation seems to me to be time well spent- certainly better that customer care and other ■■■■■■■■
I agree with you Rikki and yes, I also believe it should be compulsory.
In Germany, the law states that If you do not act to prevent an accidental death, without endangering your own life, you become liable in law. ( I know there’ll be a flood of comments regarding this, but no, that doesn’t mean you have to jump into the river to pull someone out, but if you saw an accident, and didn’t do everything reasonably possible to assist the victims, you would probably be prosecuted. But then the Germans still have an effective, operative society!)
from what i heard you can be prosecuted for not helping but if you do help and do something wrong then they can sue you in germany. thats not really the ideal situation is it?
You won’t be sued for helping someone in Germany! They don’t have the compensation culture there, and their courts still work on the basis that you are responsible for your own safety!
So if you trip over a kerb, you would be laughed out of a German court if you tried to sue the property owner! The judge would simply ask, “Why didn’t you make sure you knew where you were walking before you started wakling?”
In Germany you must complete basic first aid training before being granted even a car license and as it says above can be prosecuted if you dont do something. If i was unconsious and not breathing i would want someone to at least have a go at CPR even if its just the compressions and no MtM. i would rather have a few broken ribs than be 6 feet under. And yes i am first aid trained, first aid instructor and been first on scene to a few RTC’s, nothing major but enough to need to do something before the proffessionals turn up
hitch:
First Aid should definatly be available as a module
we need more modules to make it interesting
Dcpc aint going away so maybe new modules will be designed.
With Rikki about this first aider got sued nonsense
no sane person would sue the person who saved their life over a couple of bust ribs
its all twaddle
I cannae handle blood best of times, id be hopeless at this. Aye im a big jessie and what of it
Its a good idea no beating about the bush. The dcpc is one load of ■■■■■■■■ it would be good if it was useful ■■■■■■■■.
Id like a dcpc course that teaches you more about mechanics and how to fix/diagnose stuff on your own. Because currently i don’t know one end of a prop shaft from another
merc0447:
I cannae handle blood best of times, id be hopeless at this. Aye im a big jessie and what of it
Its a good idea no beating about the bush. The dcpc is one load of ■■■■■■■■ it would be good if it was useful ■■■■■■■■.
Id like a dcpc course that teaches you more about mechanics and how to fix/diagnose stuff on your own. Because currently i don’t know one end of a prop shaft from another
the bit nearest the cab is the front end
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And that concludes the first module of your Driver CPC training…next week we’ll be finding our own arse with both hands!
I have offered a 7 hour first aid course as DCPC for a couple of years now.
I was at a coach company last week that used St John’s Ambulance to deliver a 7 hour DCPC first aid course for 9 of their drivers. The cost was around £50 per person and included a 3 year Emergency First Aid at Work qualification as well as free indemnity insurance from St Johns.
I am considering tying up with St Johns Ambulance to provide my DCPC for me rather than my current trainers.
I can’t see what this DFA is that isn’t already available much cheaper.
And that concludes the first module of your Driver CPC training…next week we’ll be finding our own arse with both hands!
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thats more training than most transport office staff get
