Fatboy slimslow:
Don’t become a casualty yourself!there’s a sniper around!
I mean a mad man around!
ref the ferry? I’ve still got the playing cards with Townsend thoreson the back if it helps?
Rikki-UK:
Fatboy slimslow:
I will give you another hint, I drink with a guy who lives in my village - who is not here a lot , he is doing CP work in Eastern Pakistan and earning a lot of money, I have asked him many times to own up on his Military career, and all I get is his was in the Queens Regt- he doesnt drop hints in almost every post about where he has been and what 7.56mm can do, in fact he says nothing- a Walter Mitty he isn’t=- and I have been in in his house and seen his cap badge - guess what I have never seen him on a ferry -
parachute regiment me rikki, never done out! 7.62 mm Gympy and SLR man me! Phased SA80 in 5.56mm bit like a chocolate fire guard that. G3 7.62 mm very good! 9 mm high powered browning very good too! Biggest round now for your sniper weapon 8.57 mm very very accurate and it Walter mittys all over the L96 7.62 mm which was very good 25 years ago! Anyway to the op, very good idea for truckers BUT would they STOP! Missed the balcony by six months, we were at warrenpoint 1979 till 1981! pathfinder platoon then the rest was history! As I say I’ve been out over twenty years and civvy street ■■■■■! Night night, love Walter PPK!
First Aid should definatly be available as a module
we need more modules to make it interesting
Dcpc aint going away so maybe new modules will be designed.
With Rikki about this first aider got sued nonsense
no sane person would sue the person who saved their life over a couple of bust ribs
its all twaddle
hitch:
no sane person would sue the person who saved their life over a couple of bust ribs
its all twaddle
It’s the insane ones that are your worry.
Rikki-UK:
Which where this training would come in- how many people know the first priority of an accident scene? the guy screaming? - the lass who is quiet? which one is the priority? or is neither?- I know the answer do you?
airways, breathing, circulation, disability (civvy street dont seem to teach ABCD so disability may be unfamiliar to some)
of course that is after you assess the situation for further dangers 
scanny77:
Rikki-UK:
Which where this training would come in- how many people know the first priority of an accident scene? the guy screaming? - the lass who is quiet? which one is the priority? or is neither?- I know the answer do you?airways, breathing, circulation, disability (civvy street dont seem to teach ABCD so disability may be unfamiliar to some)
of course that is after you assess the situation for further dangers
S for sunglasses, I lost my favorite ray bans whilst giving first aid at an RTC 
I think it’s a great idea, I did a couple of First Aid courses years ago, and although I’ve not forgotten it all, I’d be up for doing another course…
There’s no worse feeling than that of helplessness, and nobody should have to listen to a grown man screaming for his mother 
In my opinion, driving by is not an option…do unto others etc etc…
In answer to one of Rikkis’ earlier questions…the woman that’s very quiet would get priority in my book…
Kate:
In answer to one of Rikkis’ earlier questions…the woman that’s very quiet would get priority in my book…
Yep a quiet woman is definately ill 
GasGas:
There’s a general principle in UK law where someone acting as a ‘Samaritan’ can’t be sued…for failing to save someone’s life for example.Even trained ‘Frist Aiders’ in the workplace do not have a ‘Duty of Care’ to those who they treat…unless that is their actual job and they don’t have other duties.
Thats pretty much how it was told to us at out last DCPC course. It wasn’t a first aid course, it was just a general discussion about first aid. Someone said they probably wouldn’t assist incase they got sued. But we were told that you can’t be sued for being a good samaratain. Only a trained medical professional can be sued if they get it wrong.
Do you get in those Days a HGV and ADR License without First Aid training?
Some of you lot are ■■■■■■■ idiots, a decent course is trying to be set up/supported by one of the very, very few bodies that are on our side yet it gets throwed back in there faces!
How long until this course is approved?
It all seemed a bit up in the air when I spoke to the man at the CV Show
truckingtopics.co.uk/driverfirstassis.html
but I wish him well.
If I was him I’d approach those handwringers at BRAKE and say “Here’s an opportunity for you to support something positive,”
I have to say that you can get Driver CPC approved first aid/situation management training for a bit less than £95 a head if you do a block booking, so you’d have to look at the other features and benefits and ask if it was worth the extra.
If handled right, it could do a lot for the industry, though.
Saaamon:
Some of you lot are [zb] idiots, a decent course is trying to be set up/supported by one of the very, very few bodies that are on our side yet it gets throwed back in there faces!How long until this course is approved?
some? Some? Bloody some? Most if you ask me. I mean someone talks about a first aid course, and it then gets dismissed by resident expert rob k, before becoming a gloating ground for sas war stories.
I’d be more than happy to do a first aid course. Why wouldn’t you stop and help? Christ did I actually read a post by someone worrying about stopping in case the load was late?
Oh and yes the “quiet woman” would be very worrying!
When i did my ADR part of it was first aid…life saving…i dont agree with dcpc anyway as per my posts…but i wouldnt walk by a fellow human being who needed my help…and i would like to think that a driver or other person mite help me out if i was chuckin a thrombo , and those lads on here that have served overseas that would make my aris puckerup i take my hat off to service men and women.
happysack:
Saaamon:
Some of you lot are [zb] idiots, a decent course is trying to be set up/supported by one of the very, very few bodies that are on our side yet it gets throwed back in there faces!How long until this course is approved?
some? Some? Bloody some? Most if you ask me. I mean someone talks about a first aid course, and it then gets dismissed by resident expert rob k
I should perhaps add that I’m not certainly not against people having first aid experience nor against stopping to help people in distress either, quite the opposite in fact. However the litiguous society in which we live in where anything and anyone can be sued for all manner of ridiculous reasons is the only reason why I’m against the idea of it being forced upon us and let’s not kid ourselves that there haven’t been cases where good samaritans have been sued because there have.
Also I don’t see why this is being specifically targetted at truckers anyway. Why not bus/coach/van drivers or even car drivers for that matter?
Rob K:
happysack:
Saaamon:
Some of you lot are [zb] idiots, a decent course is trying to be set up/supported by one of the very, very few bodies that are on our side yet it gets throwed back in there faces!How long until this course is approved?
some? Some? Bloody some? Most if you ask me. I mean someone talks about a first aid course, and it then gets dismissed by resident expert rob k
I should perhaps add that I’m not certainly not against people having first aid experience nor against stopping to help people in distress either, quite the opposite in fact. However the litiguous society in which we live in where anything and anyone can be sued for all manner of ridiculous reasons is the only reason why I’m against the idea of it being forced upon us and let’s not kid ourselves that there haven’t been cases where good samaritans have been sued because there have.
Also I don’t see why this is being specifically targetted at truckers anyway. Why not bus/coach/van drivers or even car drivers for that matter?
I too would like to see prove of someone being sued for genuinely trying to save a life. Why is it being targetted at us?.. Because we’ve all got to our dcpc so instead of being told how to treat people (customer care) why dont we get trained for something of real value. Maybe coach drivers already have to do this sort of training? As professional drivers is it unreasonable to expect us to know how to deal with accident if we’re the first ones there?
A good idea but very late with it. I have offered this course for a long time and it is always well received by drivers. I can not get in to the site but is it accredited by a governing body.
Also if as someone said it is £95 the that is around £20/£30 over the top.
If you are in the peterborough area and are interested I will do the same course for £63.75 plus vat inc upload.
only 3 seats left. course is on 25/4/13
Rikki-UK:
http://truckanddriver.co.uk/2013/04/driver-first-assist-lifesaving-project-launched/
A new initiative that Truck & Driver are supporting - that may save a life - now that’s worth 7 hours of your time - with enough support the module will get approved by JAUPT- in my opinion it should be a compulsory module for all drivers, It only takes 4 minutes for someone to die from a blocked airway- Ambulance response times are at best 8 minutes from the call, not the incident- at worst a lot longer. By the very nature of the job lorry drivers maybe first on the scene- and spending 7 hours knowing what and what not to do in that situation seems to me to be time well spent- certainly better that customer care and other ■■■■■■■■
I agree with you Rikki and yes, I also believe it should be compulsory.
In Germany, the law states that If you do not act to prevent an accidental death, without endangering your own life, you become liable in law. ( I know there’ll be a flood of comments regarding this, but no, that doesn’t mean you have to jump into the river to pull someone out, but if you saw an accident, and didn’t do everything reasonably possible to assist the victims, you would probably be prosecuted. But then the Germans still have an effective, operative society!)
I didn’t see any mention of cost, or have I missed something.
Any first aid course has to be a good idea as long as the providers aren’t using it and the DCPC to take the ■■■■ out of drivers.
The Company I did my C+E with, Viamaster Training in Leeds, offered a days First Aid CPC course for free, best cpc course I’ve been on and I actually learnt something, Certification is valid for 3 years, the CPC is valid for 5 
. I certainly feel better prepared should I happen along something on the road or AT HOME. Oh and I was practically offered a job with the haulage side the same day. What comes around .