truckanddriver.co.uk/2013/04/dri … -launched/
A new initiative that Truck & Driver are supporting - that may save a life - now that’s worth 7 hours of your time - with enough support the module will get approved by JAUPT- in my opinion it should be a compulsory module for all drivers, It only takes 4 minutes for someone to die from a blocked airway- Ambulance response times are at best 8 minutes from the call, not the incident- at worst a lot longer. By the very nature of the job lorry drivers maybe first on the scene- and spending 7 hours knowing what and what not to do in that situation seems to me to be time well spent- certainly better that customer care and other ■■■■■■■■
…followed by the very people you helped save their life then take you to court to sue you for injuries they’ve suffered. Plenty of cases where this has happened.
I’ll pass thanks. 
Rikki-UK:
http://truckanddriver.co.uk/2013/04/driver-first-assist-lifesaving-project-launched/
A new initiative that Truck & Driver are supporting - that may save a life - now that’s worth 7 hours of your time - with enough support the module will get approved by JAUPT- in my opinion it should be a compulsory module for all drivers, It only takes 4 minutes for someone to die from a blocked airway- Ambulance response times are at best 8 minutes from the call, not the incident- at worst a lot longer. By the very nature of the job lorry drivers maybe first on the scene- and spending 7 hours knowing what and what not to do in that situation seems to me to be time well spent- certainly better that customer care and other ■■■■■■■■
Good idea for some, but not to be compulsory, people usually have a choice to get involved in an incident, they shouldn’t be required to do it, IMHO.
Rob K:
…followed by the very people you helped save their life then take you to court to sue you for injuries they’ve suffered. Plenty of cases where this has happened.I’ll pass thanks.
Ok show me a link to one case in the UK where someone has acted in good faith and be prosecuted or sued- Over to you…
Good idea for some, but not to be compulsory, people usually have a choice to get involved in an incident, they shouldn’t be required to do it, IMHO
the training should be compulsory, it is obviously everyones choice wether to get involved at the incident, worth noting in some countries (not UK) Not getting involved and trying to save a life can end you in trouible
There’s a general principle in UK law where someone acting as a ‘Samaritan’ can’t be sued…for failing to save someone’s life for example.
Even trained ‘Frist Aiders’ in the workplace do not have a ‘Duty of Care’ to those who they treat…unless that is their actual job and they don’t have other duties.
Rikki-UK:
Good idea for some, but not to be compulsory, people usually have a choice to get involved in an incident, they shouldn’t be required to do it, IMHO
the training should be compulsory, it is obviously everyones choice wether to get involved at the incident, worth noting in some countries (not UK) Not getting involved and trying to save a life can end you in trouible
And we live in a free country, and you should have a choice in what courses you do on a DCPC, NOT to be forced in to something you don’t want to do.
I know you have to do a first aid course for ADR, but that’s just part of that course.
GasGas:
There’s a general principle in UK law where someone acting as a ‘Samaritan’ can’t be sued…for failing to save someone’s life for example.Even trained ‘Frist Aiders’ in the workplace do not have a ‘Duty of Care’ to those who they treat…unless that is their actual job and they don’t have other duties.
Just a shame they don’t apply that principle to NHS trusts!
There’s a general principle in UK law where someone acting as a ‘Samaritan’ can’t be sued…for failing to save someone’s life for example.
Which has been held up in court- acting in good faith will not lead you to be being sued even if you make a mistake- the idea of this training is to minimise those mistakes and save a life if possible
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Rikki-UK:
Rob K:
…followed by the very people you helped save their life then take you to court to sue you for injuries they’ve suffered. Plenty of cases where this has happened.I’ll pass thanks.
Ok show me a link to one case in the UK where someone has acted in good faith and be prosecuted or sued- Over to you…
I can’t be arsed spending time trawling the internet just to prove you wrong, but some basic search terms turned this up straight away: telegraph.co.uk/health/13694 … unner.html
In fairness to you I did stumble across a UK first aider site which claimed that no person has ever been sued in the UK thus far from administering first aid, but I’ll bet that plenty have tried and the above link is at least one case of that happening.
I don’t recall the specifics but there was a fairly high profile case in the UK a few years ago where a good samaritan had helped the driver of a crashed car (somewhere up in the north east or Scotland iirc) and then the driver went on to successfully sue them. I’ve no doubt you’ll argue that a “good samaritan” is not the same as a qualified first aider - and you’d be right - but the bottom line is both can land you in a crap ton of legal hassle and agro and even if the case is eventually dismissed it’s still hassle that you don’t want from helping to save someone’s life.
Weeto also makes a good point above. Forcing first aid onto truckers through the DCPC would cause more problems that it would solve. Those that have no interest in being first aiders would pay the minimum amount of attention as they could get away with for their 7 hours of DCPC time which would mean by the time they left the course they would have forgotten most of it. That’s their problem you might be thinking? Well yes, until the time comes when you have a crash and need CPR. Along comes Mr. Trucker and because he wasn’t paying any attention at the course he winds up breaking your ribs and leaves you with more injuries than you had to begin with. Oh and remember you can’t sue him because they first aiders are protected! So no, I’m completely against the idea of it. Leave first aid to those that want to do first aid and the paramedics, and leave us to drive the trucks. 
Which where this training would come in- how many people know the first priority of an accident scene? the guy screaming? - the lass who is quiet? which one is the priority? or is neither?- I know the answer do you?
I can’t be arsed spending time trawling the internet just to prove you wrong
Because you cant- you made the statement now back it up- if you can, No one is forcing anyone to do anything- apart from JAUPT - if you have to do training , the possibillty you may save a life is worthwhile - and certainly a better use of your time than some of the other courses on offer
Drive on by people’s! 
make the 999 call and be 10 miles down the road! 
thank you! many years ago on the m63 
going onto the princess parkway then onto the m56 
a baybutts of burscough went over and I was the only one to stop! Diesel started to come out of the tanks but I couldn’t find the driver! his windscreen was out, so I reached in to turn the ignition off and the the Scouse bar steward fell from the top bunk into my arms! As his head started to peel off his shoulders I quickly put him over me shoulders, ( firemans lift ) and ran him back up 150 metres
up the hard shoulder! 
quickly ripped his shirt up for a tourniquet and put him in the rest position ( well i did have trauma training at Hereford ! ) and as luck would have it a car stopped which two young ladies from whythenshawe A AND E ( one was a surgeon, the other was 2 i/c ) and said well done you’ve saved his life! the Scouse [zb] bled all over my united top ( cantona 7! )
well i did have trauma training at Hereford
have I met you on a ferry?
Rikki - breathing, bleeding, breaks and burns! if you’re first on the scene in an artic you’ve caused it a killed them! TRUCKNETUK CSI will have you hung, drawn and quartered before the police get there! wait till you do trauma training!
It’s like a motorcyclist! How do you give him or her mouth to mouth if you can’t take the helmet off? people don’t want to get involved its as simple as!
Fatboy slimslow:
Drive on by people’s!
up the hard shoulder!
Who are ya !! who are ya !! 
Cantona good old days lad
Fatboy slimslow:
Rikki - breathing, bleeding, breaks and burns!
It’s like a motorcyclist! How do you give him or her mouth to mouth if you can’t take the helmet off?
OK I will bite , with all your Hereford training - whats your first priority on scene? ( hint: its a basic rule for all first responders and military)
I will give you another hint, I drink with a guy who lives in my village - who is not here a lot , he is doing CP work in Eastern Pakistan and earning a lot of money, I have asked him many times to own up on his Military career, and all I get is his was in the Queens Regt- he doesnt drop hints in almost every post about where he has been and what 7.56mm can do, in fact he says nothing- a Walter Mitty he isn’t=- and I have been in in his house and seen his cap badge - guess what I have never seen him on a ferry -
Rikki-UK:
http://truckanddriver.co.uk/2013/04/driver-first-assist-lifesaving-project-launched/
A new initiative that Truck & Driver are supporting - that may save a life - now that’s worth 7 hours of your time - with enough support the module will get approved by JAUPT- in my opinion it should be a compulsory module for all drivers, It only takes 4 minutes for someone to die from a blocked airway- Ambulance response times are at best 8 minutes from the call, not the incident- at worst a lot longer. By the very nature of the job lorry drivers maybe first on the scene- and spending 7 hours knowing what and what not to do in that situation seems to me to be time well spent- certainly better that customer care and other ■■■■■■■■
Where do I sign up? I’ve been looking for something like this for a while.
Don’t become a casualty yourself! there’s a sniper around! I mean a mad man around! I’ve been over twenty odd years rikki, so no doubt alots changed ref the ferry? I’ve still got the playing cards with Townsend thoreson the back if it helps? herald of free enterprise unfortunately I was in XMG IN BANDIT COUNTRY LOOKING FOR SOMEONE SPECIAL ON MARCH 6 th 1987!