You really couldn’t make it up.
With regard to the OP. According to the BS media… it now appears to be the Construction Industry that is preventing the economic recovery.
FFS this government will blame all and sundry for our demise rather than those responsible for the mess…the financial institutions and themselves. 
Solly:
‘…it now appears to be the Construction Industry that is preventing the economic recovery…’
I’m not really surprised at this news.
Buildings these days are too frequently prefabricated & flimsily chucked up by semi-skilled assemblers (apprentices being a time consuming concept of the past) and folk are fed up with paying, inhabiting and rectifying expensive tat 
Time for a builder’s CPC 
Solly:
You really couldn’t make it up.With regard to the OP. According to the BS media… it now appears to be the Construction Industry that is preventing the economic recovery.
FFS this government will blame all and sundry for our demise rather than those responsible for the mess…the financial institutions and themselves.
There’s no way that the construction/building industry is the cause or can fix the problem because it’s just a type of service industry that’s dependent firstly on the domestic manufacturing industry for it’s customers and the wealth needed to pay for it’s products.
It is/was the wealth creating domestic manufacturing sector of the economy that is/was the foundation which the rest of the economy is/was built on.When Thatcher kicked that foundation out the collapse of the rest is/was inevitable as we’re now seeing in the service and retail sectors which are effectively all that’s left.
The only answer that Cam and Clegg seem to have is let’s cover the country in concrete and loads of houses,that no one is earning the money to afford to buy.Which no one would want to live in anyway,considering that the idea is all about quantity (so massive urbanisation and housing estates in which no one with any sense really wants to live) in a vain attempt to provide work,for those who ‘would’ have been employed in our lost industries and to (try to) oversupply the market,in a vain attempt to bring housing costs down to the level where a minimum wage job would pay for the mortgage.
Ireland and Spain have already been there and done that and look what it did for their economies.No surprise that it’s Germany which is the only viable country left in the EU because Germany was lucky enough not to be lumberered with politicians like Thatcher destroying it’s wealth creating industries.
Happy Keith:
Carryfast:
‘…Which just leaves the question why and who gains from this…’
Maybe look to Godless Federalists and their ‘want, now, want now’ short term, self serving, leftist, blinkered demands and delusions
Incidentally, it’s perfectly enabled by the inappropriate time constraints dictated by 4-5 year political cycles that pacify but cannot realistically deliver, given their complexity, the ‘product’ demanded.
Carryfast:
Happy Keith:
Mike-C:
Juddian:
‘…British voters, ha, turkeys…’‘…Every mainstream party is Pro EU. …[A]ny party that is anti EU would carry a certain stigmatism as they all appear (or are labelled) as far right groups…’
‘…Maybe watch and listen to how the BBC very effectively and consistently dismiss such groups by their off-handed but clearly pro-federalist sniffiness…’ blah
‘…Nothing to do with Brussels.The EU is being run by the Germans for the Germans…’
Are you seriously suggesting that Brussels (allied with Strasbourg and 10 Downing Street, of course) isn’t the Fourth Reich’s, EU mouthpiece epicentre?
Leftist in the sense that it’s firstly all about making the Chinese communists richer at our expense.
But no Brussels is just the place where the Germans go to tell everyone else in the EU what the EU’s economic policy will be based on what the Bundesbank (based in Germany) wants and based on the idea that Germany does all the work and then wants everyone else to pay for it’s products to keep German workers employed in their highly paid jobs.
“Money is Power”, or shall we say, “The Monopoly to Create Credit Money and charge interest is Absolute Power”. (Alex James)
Amsel (Amschel) Bauer Mayer Rothschild, 1838:
“Let me issue and control a Nation’s money and I care not who makes its laws”.
Seems Cameron et al have read their economics history books on the Rothschilds & Rockefellers eh?
Who say’s money doesn’t talk… and control governments?
Solly:
“Money is Power”, or shall we say, “The Monopoly to Create Credit Money and charge interest is Absolute Power”. (Alex James)Amsel (Amschel) Bauer Mayer Rothschild, 1838:
“Let me issue and control a Nation’s money and I care not who makes its laws”.
Seems Cameron et al have read their economics history books on the Rothschilds & Rockefellers eh?
Who say’s money doesn’t talk… and control governments?
It seems like the the whole thing has gone wrong in the sense that currency (paper) has become more important to those who run the economy than the actual real wealth creation that backs it.The fact that the Bundesbank seems to think that the Euro is worth more than the DM would be says everything. 
But for anyone with an account full of Euros or Pounds the question is what is actually backing those currencies in the sense of it not just being a pile of paper or coinage made from cheap metal with loads of zeros printed on it. 
From the same source as above…this paragraph from a letter written by Rothschild to his NY agents sums up what the “Capitalists” and the governments that serve them think of the workers of the world.
“The few who can understand the system will be either so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there will be no opposition from that class, while, on the other hand, that great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that Capital derives from the system, will bear its burden without complaint and, perhaps, without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.” (New World order)
'bout time the people woke up me’thinks.
Carryfast:
'…over the country in concrete and loads of houses ... [w]hich no one would want to live in anyway,considering that the idea is all about quantity (so massive urbanisation and housing estates in which no one with any sense really wants to live)...'
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Isn’t it the case that the new builds are indirectly to absorb immigrants - although I’ve noted that 'stans & 'deshi’s, etc, etc, round my way (I resist the inaccurate, brainwashing PC term “communities” when “marauding alien tribes” is the sensation they create amongst the vulnerable amongst us) seemingly prefer to inhabit (former?) social/council houses to extend and park their taxis outside.
‘…Knowledge is Power…’ (or so wrote Michel Fouceau with my underline)
Solly:
From the same source as above…this paragraph from a letter written by Rothschild to his NY agents sums up what the “Capitalists” and the governments that serve them think of the workers of the world.“The few who can understand the system will be either so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there will be no opposition from that class, while, on the other hand, that great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that Capital derives from the system, will bear its burden without complaint and, perhaps, without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.” (New World order)
'bout time the people woke up me’thinks.
And from the man who brought the motor car to the masses…
It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.
Henry Ford
There won’t be a revolution of course cos they’re all ■■■■ scared!
Happy Keith:
Carryfast:
'…over the country in concrete and loads of houses ... [w]hich no one would want to live in anyway,considering that the idea is all about quantity (so massive urbanisation and housing estates in which no one with any sense really wants to live)...'
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Isn’t it the case that the new builds are indirectly to absorb immigrants - although I’ve noted that 'stans & 'deshi’s, etc, etc, round my way (I resist the inaccurate, brainwashing PC term “communities” when “marauding alien tribes” is the sensation they create amongst the vulnerable amongst us) seemingly prefer to inhabit (former?) social/council houses to extend and park their taxis outside.
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Absolutely that’s always been the case.For example during the 1930’s-50’s the policy in North Surrey was let’s build loads of houses for the ‘local’ population.Which was bs because the ‘local’ population at that time was just small rural communities made up of the indigenous population and farmland and small towns like Kingston or Sutton etc.
What they actually meant was we want to cover your county in loads of houses and concrete and turn your small towns into an inner city environment so we can house loads of Londoners who no longer wish to live in the urban hell that they’ve created for themselves in their own place.Then to add insult to injury most of those ‘Londoners’ are now more likely to originate from Africa or Asia than to ‘Greater London’ let alone (what was) those parts of rural North Surrey.
As for the neighbouring county of Middx.Don’t even ask.Bushey Park and a few fields around Harefield is all that’s left of the place and even that is part of Greater London.
44 Tonne Ton:
Solly:
From the same source as above…this paragraph from a letter written by Rothschild to his NY agents sums up what the “Capitalists” and the governments that serve them think of the workers of the world.“The few who can understand the system will be either so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there will be no opposition from that class, while, on the other hand, that great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that Capital derives from the system, will bear its burden without complaint and, perhaps, without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.” (New World order)
'bout time the people woke up me’thinks.
And from the man who brought the motor car to the masses…
It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.
Henry Ford
Probably because contrary to his (correct) ideas on how to run a modern industrialised economy the bankers were all about profits based on low wages that look good on paper but aren’t sustainable in the long term.
Solly:
‘… on the other hand, that great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that Capital derives from the system, will bear its burden without complaint …’
Isn’t that arguably presented in old language and alludes to it’s day when hard work through labour offered salvation for mankind through God and that His reward would rest - amongst others, in it’s endeavour?
These days surely everyman and his dog - or at least a whole swathe of society “wants to be rich” without lifting a finger and “blames the bankers” without knowing why they are doing such.
Solly:
‘…It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning…’ Henry Ford
‘…The nation…’ these days surely knows that their entitlement to credit for their stuff is available from either the social or advert’s off the telly: They’re sorted so where’s either their ‘…monetary system…’ problem or need for understanding to ‘know’ anything more?
I would be happy to have an annually renewable contract. Gives employers a chance to get rid of militant ■■■■■■■■■ and gives you a bit of job security, knowing you can’t get the bullet in January etc
Happy Keith:
‘…The nation…’ these days surely knows that their entitlement to credit for their stuff is available from either the social or advert’s off the telly: They’re sorted so where’s either their ‘…monetary system…’ problem or need for understanding to ‘know’ anything more?
Credit has to be paid back and is/was just a way of deferring payment in the knowledge that job security,redundancy terms and the better job opportunities,in the more industrialised economy of the pre 1980’s era,meant that there was a good bet that sufficient income would be earn’t over that deferred period to pay off the debt.That all changed with the end of the idea of a job for life and/or the ability to just walk into one of the many other jobs available in the event of redundancy with the help of good redundancy terms and realistic levels of unemployment benefits relative to prices in real terms.
The problem now is that credit is being used by desperate borrowers as a way to supplement low incomes with no chance of it being paid back,because the low income issues,that caused them to borrow the money in the first place,will still apply throughout the term of the loan so it becomes a long term debt,often added to by borrowing more money,in the long term,to pay the debts off in the short term.So no ‘credit’ in the accepted sense isn’t 'available at all nor for that matter any longer are the types of incomes or benefits which would be needed to cover it for many people while job security is probably non existent to anyone.
OVLOV JAY:
I would be happy to have an annually renewable contract. Gives employers a chance to get rid of militant [zb] and gives you a bit of job security, knowing you can’t get the bullet in January etc
I think that one of the reasons why we needed the so called ‘militant zb’s’ was partly to provide workers with a lot better job security than just a yearly renewable ‘contract’.
The idea of so called of yearly contracts being described as ‘job security’ could have come straight out of Cam and Clegg’s Tory policy unit.
My mum works for the government and with over 20 years service so she has a different contract but all staff in the last 10 or so years are on short term contracts. Not the nasty torys who brought that in but labour the workers party. Blair and Brown screwed the working man more than Thatcher.
kr79:
My mum works for the government and with over 20 years service so she has a different contract but all staff in the last 10 or so years are on short term contracts. Not the nasty torys who brought that in but labour the workers party. Blair and Brown screwed the working man more than Thatcher.
I think there’s plenty of workers who’d say that Blair was actually one of the nastiest of the Torys being an infiltrator of an opposing party while actually supporting the aims and policies of another which doesn’t say much for so called democracy being that there’s no safeguards against that.But why the union vote put him there and supported him is another mystery to match the one as to why/how they came to put Callaghan into a position of power. 
That was exactly the reaction I expected of you Carryfast. Only drivers looking to screw their employers over need to fear a short term contract. I have every confidence that I would get a new contract, so if you don’t share my optimism, then that confirms the sort of employee you were
who cares really