kitkat:
Leaving Robk out the scene,if you’s all spoke to each other then mayby there would be less fighting to get a load/backload and i think it would distribute the work fairly even and give’s everyone a fair crack at the whip as you’s are all working for the same ppm,give or take a few pennies.
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Ok I know Livestock Hauliers are a different breed to most hauliers but we do talk to each other and on busy market days the work gets shared around !
I have given work to ( and done work for) others - just depends how busy everyone is on that day!!
And that’s how it should be, I work quite closely with another small haulier in the borders we sometimes take 20p a tonne of good jobs, often nothing at all, but he helps me when I’m oop North and vice versa, it’s just a shame there aren’t more like him. I enjoy this board and find it helpfull at times, frustrating at others, but if everyone was prepared to work together, it could be so much more.
The one thing that really ■■■■■■ me off with our industry, is the closed mouthed back stabbers who not only are perfectly happy to knife you in the back, but take glee in giving it a twist when it’s there
Okay, okay. You win. Do whatever you want; get on with it. I shall take great pleasure in saying “told you so” when the day comes around. It’s only a matter of time. Tick tock.
Just to be clear on what I meant here. I wouldn’t take get pleasure in seeing someone go bankrupt, just in case that’s how it’s been received. Perhaps a poor choice of words.
Rob K:
I shall take great pleasure in saying “told you so” when the day comes around. It’s only a matter of time. Tick tock.
And I shall take great pleasure in saying “give me the grand you owe me”
If you’re man enough to put your money where your mouth is!
What’s the point? You could probably sustain running at break even point or even running at a loss for an undefined length of time, just to prove a point, then end up bankrupt.
Oh I dunno … maybe to show you have the courage of your convictions.
Robk:
You could probably sustain running at break even point or even running at a loss for an undefined length of time, just to prove a point, then end up bankrupt.
Oh ok I’ll run at a loss for a whole year just to with bet with you.
well malc its certainley stopped me ,well the wife has really ,she read this thread and it basically turned from yeah ok but with a cheap unit to a deffinant no no so if anyone wants a class 1 driver with 10 years experiance uk/continantal i,ll be available early newyear
Carl:
well malc its certainley stopped me ,well the wife has really ,she read this thread and it basically turned from yeah ok but with a cheap unit to a deffinant no no so if anyone wants a class 1 driver with 10 years experiance uk/continantal i,ll be available early newyear
So does that mean that things are ok Carl. at least you can get back to work.
Wheel Nut:
I think the whole point of this thread was to make people think that it is easy to make a living out of a truck in the current climate.
You all have to agree that any silly sod can buy a truck and put it to work after a week at a driving school.
If the thread has put at least one person off from risking their house, home and marriage, than the thread has worked.
another, “i know everything about everything” trying to give advice on something they’ve never done!
Er… I think you’ll be eating those words as quickly as you spat them out when Malc sees this. He’s had more experience of being an owner driver than you’ve had hot dinner’s.
Wheel Nut:
I think the whole point of this thread was to make people think that it is easy to make a living out of a truck in the current climate.
You all have to agree that any silly sod can buy a truck and put it to work after a week at a driving school.
If the thread has put at least one person off from risking their house, home and marriage, than the thread has worked.
another, “i know everything about everything” trying to give advice on something they’ve never done!
Er… I think you’ll be eating those words as quickly as you spat them out when Malc sees this. He’s had more experience of being an owner driver than you’ve had hot dinner’s.
true of course rob, but the way malc put it was a bit nihilistic - the thread may also have stopped a potentially sucessful O/D going into the business if you want to look at the flipside
jj72:
the thread may also have stopped a potentially sucessful O/D going into the business if you want to look at the flipside
But that can only be a good thing because no newbie owner driver’s are going to be successful when they’re running about for circa a quid a mile when diesel’s nearing a quid a litre again .
Wheel Nut:
I think the whole point of this thread was to make people think that it is easy to make a living out of a truck in the current climate.
You all have to agree that any silly sod can buy a truck and put it to work after a week at a driving school.
If the thread has put at least one person off from risking their house, home and marriage, than the thread has worked.
another, “i know everything about everything” trying to give advice on something they’ve never done!
Er… I think you’ll be eating those words as quickly as you spat them out when Malc sees this. He’s had more experience of being an owner driver than you’ve had hot dinner’s.
what are you, his side kick?
in his own words, he’s worked for one firm many years ago when it was suppossedly like printing money, strange how he packed all in for a fiver an hour?
Rob K:
But that can only be a good thing because no newbie owner driver’s are going to be successful when they’re running about for circa a quid a mile when diesel’s nearing a quid a litre again .
Oh dear here we go again…
NOBODY ON HERE IS WORKING FOR A QUID A MILE & FUEL IS NOT A QUID A LITRE
ROB, that sounds like a knock bet to me, your on fifteen quid an hour so a grands nothing and seans an o/d working for a mars bar a day, you can’t loose!
perhaps you need to ask wheelnut for some advice before you make a decission?
I will happily admit I’m wrong, when I’m wrong. But so far I’ve been right and you haven’t been able to prove otherwise.
paul b:
ROB, that sounds like a knock bet to me, your on fifteen quid an hour so a grands nothing and seans an o/d working for a mars bar a day, you can’t loose!
perhaps you need to ask wheelnut for some advice before you make a decission?
Sounds like you have some issues with Malc, Paul B. Perhaps you should address them to him directly, rather than querying me about them.
I refer you back to this post as both of you appear to have your selective memory’s switched on again :
Rob K:
north surrey haulage:
Rob K:
I shall take great pleasure in saying “told you so” when the day comes around. It’s only a matter of time. Tick tock.
And I shall take great pleasure in saying “give me the grand you owe me”
If you’re man enough to put your money where your mouth is!
What’s the point? You could probably sustain running at break even point or even running at a loss for an undefined length of time, just to prove a point, then end up bankrupt.
Ah, and Sean’s selective eye sight too :
north surrey haulage:
Oh dear here we go again…
NOBODY ON HERE IS WORKING FOR A QUID A MILE & FUEL IS NOT A QUID A LITRE
Rob K:
But that can only be a good thing because no newbie owner driver’s are going to be successful when they’re running about for circa a quid a mile when diesel’s nearing a quid a litre again .
Perhaps you should look that word up. If £1.10/£1.20 per mile is not circa a quid a mile and 95 ppl circa a quid a litre then I don’t know what is .
Someone else who knows everything about my business and my wages. As long as he understands the reasons I gave it up, he can talk about me all he likes.
I am actually loading from one of my old customers tomorrow afternoon and delivering a load to Slough. I bet the rates are very similar.
Dont worry about what you say Paul, I dont really give a toss.
rob when i was getting things together for my bussiness plan one thing that was constant was the price of fuel its the one thing that can make or break ya and its the one thing you cant control i found a fuel card company that said they charge 93pplitre but once you claim the vat back that means id be paying 78/79 pplitre.my wife unlike me actually sits down and thinks things through unlike me and after many a heated discussion i agreed with her and decided nows not the right time to start up unless the lotto pays up this weekend .the problem and i think most on here will agree is that there are to many o/d,s just playing at it ,to stuborn or to much pride to call it day and pack in.if ya know what your doin and your willing to graft and most importantley you think things through youll be succesful and make a good living.the industry wouldnt survive without o/d,s or small hauliers cuz theres work the big firms wont touch but this stuff still has to be moved its not all 26pallets to ndc/rdc,s mate
Carl:
rob when i was getting things together for my bussiness plan one thing that was constant was the price of fuel its the one thing that can make or break ya and its the one thing you cant control i found a fuel card company that said they charge 93pplitre but once you claim the vat back that means id be paying 78/79 pplitre.my wife unlike me actually sits down and thinks things through unlike me and after many a heated discussion i agreed with her and decided nows not the right time to start up unless the lotto pays up this weekend .**the problem and i think most on here will agree is that there are to many o/d,s just playing at it ,to stuborn or to much pride to call it day and pack in.**if ya know what your doin and your willing to graft and most importantley you think things through youll be succesful and make a good living.the industry wouldnt survive without o/d,s or small hauliers cuz theres work the big firms wont touch but this stuff still has to be moved its not all 26pallets to ndc/rdc,s mate
Yes Carl, I agree. Well summed up, especially the highlighted bit.
IF there was good money to be had, then I would definitely give it a go, but there isn’t unless you’re extremely lucky. The negatives far outweight the positives. If I’m putting everything into it and working every hour God sends to make the business a success (which is crucial in the first years of starting up a business, especially) then I want a hell of a lot more than a grand a week take home (ball park figure and I bet most owner driver’s aren’t taking anywhere near that) after all deductions like fuel, insurance, tax, more tax, tyres, breakdowns, servicing, parking, etc etc.
rob k why dont you just take the plunge and do it instead of knocking all the one man bands
i dont think you have got big enough balls hense all your frustration
but we do talk to each other and on busy market days the work gets shared around !
