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[robroy]

@franglais

There are many ways of estimating drug use.

There will never be any accurate figures it will always be just an estimate due to the very nature of it.

As somebody said you aint going to shout from the roooftops…or are you?
The prudent ones whose carreer could be on the line, let’s say Doctors, Solicitors etc (not counting all those ones who come over on dinghys btw ) will certainly keep it quiet.

Then at the other end of the social spectrum ''Karen offa Facebook, her partner Wayne who is on the dole,.their daughter Chantelle and son Keanu will boast about it, and on FB…fact, cos they are too god dam dumb to know any better.

Btw Franglais, speaking of Facebook…did I ever mention I don’t do FB? …
Ok my wife does, she shows me a lot of it including posts by a few local dumbasses in the town who freely admit it as if they were writing in their own diary, even where they meet their dealer etc

They appear oblivious to the fact either the law reads it or some busybody weasel who has the Old Bill on speed dial…but maybe they are self assured that today the Old Bill don’t actually gaf anyway…more interested in reading and reading hurty words aimed at minorities, sections of the communitu and the govt apparentlly these days to bother theirvarses about less important things like street crime.

So imo the only way to get a more acccurate measure (if you really want/need to know of course) is like everything else, ignore what ''THEY ‘’ want you to believe, look around you and make your own assumptions…far more reliable for a true view.

@franglais

To make judgment about whether summat is increasing, or decreasing, or staying the same, you need to have a previous and a current figure.

But again both those opinions and figures are estimates snd mostly correlated by some official body with their agendas in the mix.
Prime example…apparentlly knife crime in London and other cities is down and Labour is popular

@franglais

Anyone commenting should be able to give some sort of idea about what their comment is based upon. Maybe it is what they see in their local pub,

In the pub, in a club…especially if you work there and regularly view the clientelle to watch for dealing in the toilets etc and how many visits they make more than others.
Words on the street from local ‘stars’ and ‘characters’,
Opinions from younger generations, in my case my 2 lads who seem to know the local score on things more than I do…all good ways of getting a truer picture.

Basically as I said eyes open and ears to the ground, I would consider those type of methods will give you an insight and a far better idea of actual amount of drug use than any …yawn yawn ''Official govt statistics, graph or ‘‘survey’’…a survey in leafy Surrey or somewhere similar for example aint worth the paper it is written on.

So basically a true figure will never be known it will always be based on estimates.

My estimate?
In my area it is more widespread than it was when I was a lad, and that was the time I started to take notice in said pubs and clubs…and it was bad enough then ffs.

Apologies for the ‘political comments’ I just can’t help myself …given the amount of scope and opportunity given by this crappy lefty govt…oh sh there I go again.
Still…
‘Not as bad as the Tories’ eh?
And again…
Oh I’ll shut up.

[franglais]

There is something in that.

But we can’t go through life saying that if do not have a 100% accurate4 figure, we have no figure at all so can say nothing, We need to deal with life with less than perfect data.

If the same methods are used for calculating drug use over years, then surely that will show trends of increase or decrease? It may not be an exact figure but should show differences.

@robroy

In my area it is more widespread than it was when I was a lad,

Maybe it is. Maybe another area has less drugs on the street.
”What I see myself” is a survey of one person. I prefer to see consistent surveys of lots of people in lots of areas.

[robroy]

@franglais

But we can’t go through life saying that if do not have a 100% accurate4 figure, we have no figure at all so can say nothing

Yeah but I didn’t say ‘‘You can say nothing’’ did I..
You did,.I’ve just said plenty about it.

@franglais

Maybe it is. Maybe another area has less drugs on the street.

Not 'maybe’it actually IS, an opinion formed by how I said.

Another area ?..or maybe it just appears that way on the face of it.?
Yeah again like I said, maybe the areas where those doctors and solicitors live, maybe those where ‘streetwise’ non boasting people live, buisnessmen and the like,. who (again like I said) 'don’t shout it from the rooftops.
But on the other hand some of those people include the ones my boys tell me about.
So as ever in our little discussions on here we are going around in circles.

@franglais

I prefer to see consistent surveys

Yeah…course ya do man,crack on with it.

In the meantime I’ll continue to make my judgements on what I see and hear.
Put it this way …
If I listened to official surveys I would have seen miserable looking foreign families on my streets looking like they were making a promo for Oxfam, instead of designer gear clad arrogant young a/holes in their 20s and 30s harrasing my girls (morning Chris )

Oh there I go again with my political.‘satire’.

[cooper1203]

all anyone needs to know as to why some think crime and drugs is down…

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personally it certainly seems more prevalent than it did before. whether thats just dumb arse’s not caring or because there are more of they type of person that would do drugs i have no idea. I couldnt care i have no interest in drugs my licensees are far more important to me

[Newlion]

Fact is, drug use is something that won’t ever be able to be measured or judged with any degree of accuracy or certainty just by the very nature of what it is.

The ONS might be able to tell you how many people bought a new car last year for example, but it certainly can’t give any true indication of how many people stuff some Charlie up their nose on a Saturday night out!

[star_down_under]

Drug use here and I’d be surprised if not there too, is measured at primary sewerage plants. It can tell what type of drugs and to what degree, various drugs are used. Obviously, not to the last person, but a baseline has been set and figures can be compared to that.
Cocaine is the preferred poison in affluent areas, ice in bogan suburbs.

[carryfast]

To be fair it’s not the type of scene where anyone with any sense would want to ask questions, regarding who is involved with what, or not.Even the law have to be very careful how they handle it.

[njl]

Yep, wwap. I ■■■■ you not.

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