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A quest to be always proven right, and a display of self insecurity.
Was gonna say and suffice with one word… ‘‘speechles’’
But you don’t surprise me anymore.
All I know is at the companies I worked for if you were arrested for doing drugs you’d be fired and not invited back again. They all did random drug testing. I was empty in Indianapolis waiting for the company to send load info when they said you have to go for a random drug test. They sent the address for a clinic and said take your trailer as they have room. Well they didn’t and I had to turn around on their lawn making a right mess of it. And of course the test was negative being the clean living citizen that I am. 
I didn’t start going out to boozers until 2004 so I can’t comment on drug use in the 80s and 90s to compare to todays. Its definitely rampant now I’d say, certainly coke anyway. Maybe we just see it going on more and its more widely accepted.
I have a smoke on the weekend so come Monday night when I’m kicking off my shift I’m likely to still have it in my system, am I still stoned… far from it. I’ve worked with drivers who smoke it every single day and one who had a little one mid shift. And drivers who hoover up the marching powder from Friday night till Sunday night. Each to their own but if you’re caught accept it and don’t come crying.
No it is much more prevalent today.
OK. So where does that come from?
Ed, What I mean is, Is that from a source or a personal opinion?
Personal opinion in my case.
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A very dangerous and stupid and naive scene to get involved with.The Essex Boys films were docudramas not fiction.
Getting involved in the market for that type of zb in any way by default means getting in that type of harms way.The line between consumer turned mule is just the wrong phone call by the wrong person, involving a threat to the whole family, not just the idiot user.
We used to see meth heads in London in the 70’s but these were methylated spirit drinkers, it being the poor peoples drug.
Lol. We’re talking about an unlucky driver smoking a bit of weed.
“Unlucky” ? He was “unlucky” enough to smoke some tobacco that was contaminated with weed?
“A bit of weed”? Sounds like the 70’s. “He only had a quick drink or two” or “Poor bugger a swift pint at lunchtime and he loses his job” etc etc.
Yep. Took his chance and it went wrong. We’re not all 100% squeaky clean .
Edit.. Drink and drug test every wagon driver on the road right now. Pretty sure they won’t all blow negative.
There only seems more these days because of social media news internet etc reporting on drug use.
Back in analogue days it was probably happening everyware but there’s was no camera phones etc about to broadcast it to the world. It just happened and people didn’t report or film it to get likes on YouTube or what ever.
Life was much simpler and more enjoyable back in old pre digital era
The facts of the matter are this… the chap in question has been found guilty of an offence and has been punished in what the law at least deems appropriate. Opinions are not taken into account with motoring offences, as the penalties are set out for us all to see.
Setting that aside, is it fair to punish anyone further? Are sentencing guidelines too weak? Are we saying that this person is now not worthy of earning a living and keeping the wolves from the door? This, is where we move into opinion, and they are like ■■■■■■■■■■, everyone has one.
The fact an employer in this day and age is willing to show loyalty to an employee at potentially their own risk, says more about them than anything else. They are a firm I’d work for in a heartbeat.
Oh yes, regarding his heavy licence. Very nearly all motoring offences committed by a heavy licence holder end up with TC notification. The action the TC takes is up to them, and can range from a warning letter, right up to tea and biscuits in front of the public. He’ll just have to wait and see when the time comes…
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Social media has made it what it is… bigger than ever (imo).
As a night driver I’m not a scruffy driver, far from it. In my own world a lot of the time granted, it keeps the ■■■■ wits out
I agree with you to a point. however i would be willing to bet that someone has been sacked for being under the influence of drugs or alcohol in the warehouse so to give a driver a job in the warehouse that has lost his license for drug offenses seems to be a little unfair
Not according to Maoster’s reference.
Weed, Charlie, H it’s all the same from the point of view of the pushers and their bosses.
Do you really think that every mule does it for fun and a few quid.Or they get the fateful call saying that the last payment for the ‘gear’ won’t cut it they’ve now got a job or jobs to do as payment or part payment and don’t even think about turning the offer down for fear of reprisals.
If they get caught they have to take the full penalty.Because if the pushers even think that they’ve co operated and made any deal with the law see reprisals.If the law even acted on any such information see reprisals.Caffeine and alcohol are much much safer.
You never fail to amuse.
I know you can’t function or comprehend anything on planet earth without having it fed to you through “official stats or facts” but when it comes to drug use just how accurate do you think those stats or facts are going to be?
If you are taking/snorting/smoking anything illegal then you ain’t going to be shouting about it.
There are many ways of estimating drug use. Some more accurate than others. So long as the methods are known and understood then useful data are collected. It may never be accurate to the fifteenth decimal place, but it can be useful. Or if based on “what Karen-offa-facebook said her neighbour’s cousin saw on a documentary called East Enders last night” it may not be quite as reliable.
To make judgment about whether summat is increasing, or decreasing, or staying the same, you need to have a previous and a current figure.
Anyone commenting should be able to give some sort of idea about what their comment is based upon. Maybe it is what they see in their local pub, maybe it is ONS figures, maybe they have buddies in Customs or running a smuggling ring? But some sort of idea is helpful.
Your never know how many people use drugs. The stats m stuff people quote are more than likely based on known users and people who have been caught in possession etc.
Yet who knows how many take them and never get caught or admit to taking any.
Truth is anyone can make stats charts figures to suit there own agenda . We will never know. And personally don’t care if people want to there choice as long as don’t do it near me or have any affect on my life they can do what they like