Fella where I worked apparently has been stopped in his car and tested positive for cannabis. Given 12 month driving ban and a fine.
For some reason they’ve offered him a warehouse non driving role until he gets his licence back.. god knows why but yeah and have no idea if he told the police he drives an hgv but sure the DVLA would soon find out.
Just curious will he get his hgv licence back?
Will he be invited for tea and biscuits?
Will the company expect a visit from the authorities?
Or after 12 months he will get his licence back and back to normal.
And surely the truck insurance would go up if they knew about it.
No stupid answers just curious what would happen.
Personally I think he should of been shown the door
Interesting question. I honestly don’t know the answer, the last joint I had was last century and my current drugs of choice are nicotine, caffeine and alcohol. I do personally know lots of younger drivers who’ll happily hoover up lines of coke on a weekend when we’re out together. I’m not judging, just saying that “recreational “ drug taking is hugely prevalent nowadays.
My understanding is that he will have to apply for his driving licence back after the ban ends, at the same time he will also have to apply for his HGV entitlement to be reinstated.
I seem to remember that the application for a HGV licence requires you to give information about drink/drug driving convictions in the past 3 or 5 years, if that’s correct then I imagen he would most likely be invited for tea and biscuits with the TC.
As long as he stays clear of anymore driving related convictions I would expect it to be just a case of getting his wrist slapped by the TC then back to work.
edit. Just to add that I would not have thought the company would hear from the DVSA unless there are other issues with the companies drivers convictions, but I could be wrong
It seems that some drugs are less used now than in the ‘90’s. The figures are estimates, but the methodology is consistent and so seems as good as any.
Quote “There has been a narrowing in the differences between age groups since these data were first collected in the CSEW in the 1990s. This is a result of drug use decreasing in younger age groups and increasing in older age groups.”
As hippies and yuppies age they do not start sucking Werther’s humbugs, they continue on with their substances of choice. Youngsters do not seem so keen to rebel by taking illegal drugs as much as some of us older persons. Lots do, but it is not an increasing problem.
Maybe police and companies are testing more and so see more, but that is increased awareness, nit increased prevalence.
If a company chooses to employ a convicted drug user are they putting their heads above the parapet unnecessarily? Or if they show they have suitable random testing etc are they being responsible? I don’t know at all??
I’d of thought drug use was going up always hear about it.
And don’t watch many but odd time watch police camera action type of programs there mostly driug driving there stopping.
But is smoking a joint as bad as drink driving?
Fella in question does nights and makes you wonder if he drove truck while on cannabis as he always looked scruffy and in his own world at times.
So guess him being stopped was a good thing.have heard though cannabis can stay on your blood system for days
Hearing more about something does not necessarily mean there is more of it about.
Lots of things going on here.
“Fly on the wall TV” is quite cheap to produce. Just editing some free footage from dash cams and Police videos add a bit of music and some dramatic commentary makes a compelling programme for next to no cash. In the past those cases would have been one paragraph in the local paper when the case was heard.
Ramping up the drama is clicks for Youtubers (and votes for populist politicians).
Drugs are no good thing for any driver, nor anyone else really, but they are not really more common now than a few decades ago. Nor for that matter is murder and other crimes in the UK.
Having live stream in our faces all the time might well make it seem like that it is more common, but it really is not.
I am not saying it is not a problem, I am saying it is not a vastly bigger problem than before. It has always been there.
The BMJ has published reports that suggest cannabis use results in higher risk of collision if under the influence.
“A 2012 British Medical Journal meta-analysis indicated that “drivers who consume cannabis within three hours of driving are nearly twice as likely to cause a vehicle collision as those who are not under the influence of drugs or alcohol” and found that acute cannabis use increased the risk of an automobile crash”
Taking drugs does not guarantee you will crash, but does significantly increase the risk of such. Just the same as booze. Often nowt will happen, but why increase chance it will?
Cannabis and some other drugs can be detected for days (saliva, blood) or even months (hair) after it’s use, depending on how it is looked for. It’s past use can be seen even after any obvious effects have worn off.
naughty naughty there moaster you have gone against the official narrative. didnt you know that Kahn is doing such a brilliant job lowering knife crime and drug use.. of course the minority that do carry knives and take drugs are all british
Of course crime occurs. Of course there is bad driving.
No one has said otherwise.
“Oh for the good ole days” when we had peaceful streets, with God fearing choir boys like the Krays and the Richardsons, doing good deeds and helping old ladies across the road.
For those with a few minutes to spare FullFact has a short article looking at crime perception vs facts. It was written just after the last election when various parties were quoting various figures, all attempting to tell a different tale.
You’d be hard pushed to have a night out in any British city and not see evidence of drug dealing. Of course if you are blissfully unaware of many facets of modern life you’d probably neither see nor recognise it in the first place
Im no expert, in fact far from it when it comes to drugs, but ice is the drug of choice here apparently. It’s cheap and easy to get. It seriously inhibits rational behaviour, clearly demonstrated by some truly idiotic driving.
It all goes back to the same thing mate.
There are those who make judgements based on their own life experiences, the experiences of people they know (and know about) on what they see and what they hear…whilst still keeping an open mind.
More often than not those assesments and judgements made, hardly ever correlate with an official line or stats…, which again are more often than not tampered with and adjusted to maintain an agenda…usually a political one
Then there are those who automatically believe the latter examples without question.
Not only that go on to repeat them in order to (mostly unsuccesfully) convince the less gullible who are in the first category I mention.
As for the subject…, I would agree and say that a wider selection and different types of people are regular recreational drug takers, and of all ages more so than when I was a young lad.
Never indulged in it all myself but I have been among music people in clubs back stage, when younger, of whom I have seen doing everything from a joint, to a ‘line of Charlie’, to smoking crack pipes and injecting H with their jeans belt around their arm and the other end in their gob…
I was never tempted by any of it although regularly offered it.
My lads both say to me …‘‘Even you would be surprised Dad if you knew some of the people who are taking drugs in the town’’'…
People and types of people I would never have thought when they told me who.
lol i would rather have charlie kray as a neighbor than axel rudakubana who actually was posted as a choir boy remember.
the thing is the 1960s organised crime gangs were just that organised. they wernt little muslim boys running around with their trousers half way down their arse saying they are going to wet ya.
I’ve read a lot of books about the Krays from both sides and both points of view.
I even knew an old guy who had met Reggie K when they were negotiating with some firm he was connected with in Newcastle, who told me a few tales.
Even ex Police who obviously do not condone or aprrove admit that crime then was a lot lower…as nobody dared step on the toes of the Kray firm and their activities
Put it this way I reckon I would feel safer Living in 60s London than in the sh hole today that sh weasel Khan presides over in his pointless quest for Diversity Nirvana.
well you wouldnt have a muslim walking into your 80 year old mothers house… and if you did it would be sorted. Same with the hells angels and lots of other groups of that ilk. they may not always be on the right side of the law but they looked after their own comunities.
To get back to the Krays the ‘‘crap’’ film made about the Krays by Spandau’s Kemp brothers was ‘‘crap’’ only because the twins were in jail and still alive and the production crew was frightened to offend them. especially when the likes of the Lambrianou brothers and Freddie Foreman was alleged to be still running a couple of their ‘‘buisnesses’’ for them at that time, and free.
So do you contend that “hugely prevalent today”, is the same as “same as it always was”?
Fair enough.
Whatever “hugely prevalent” means? And whyever one would specify “today”, if today is no different to past times? But that might be more of interest to sub-editors and literary style advisors?
But can we agree that drug use is roughly much as it always has been?
especially when the likes of the Lambrianou brothers and Freddie Foreman was alleged to be still running a couple of their ‘‘buisnesses’’ for them at that time, and free.