tachograph:
By the way I’m surprised ROSPA can’t find anything better to spend their time and money on
I bet ROSPA are going to get lots of people ringing up wanting to join after reading this thread
NOT
wonder if they know how much damage Steve is doing them ?
Welcome to Trucknet-UK lucieqa 
lucieqa:
What’s the connection between cigarette smoking and criminal behavior? Why do most criminals smoke? Watching the television program COPS, you’d come to the conclusion cigarette smoking is an integral part of crime. Suspects are routinely asked to put out their cigarettes. Handcuffed suspects quite often get into discussions on if they can smoke in the squad car, or demand their cigarettes be retrieved for them.
I’ve no idea why most criminals smoke or even if most criminals do smoke, but I would point out that COPS is made for television and shows only a small proportion of all criminals.
Having said that if the most interesting things they can film is people complaining about not having their smokes it doesn’t say much for either the police or todays criminal fraternity 
A mate of mine was recently stopped by police on A9 north of Inverness and given a warning for smoking in a company vehicle
He was also told his company would be told that he had been stopped
I had to do an induction, on the agency, the other day and as the assessor was showing me how the trailers get loaded etc he was walking round the whole time with a ■■■ in his mouth, I wouldn’t normally mind but half the load was cardboard, the other half was fresh food.
I wouldn’t want my food ending up tasting of smoke, nor would I want a trailer half full of cardboard to go up because some idiot couldn’t move without having a ■■■ in his mouth.
Smoked in the cab, windows closed, for the whole of the drive too.
Scarab:
I had to do an induction, on the agency, the other day and as the assessor was showing me how the trailers get loaded etc he was walking round the whole time with a ■■■ in his mouth, I wouldn’t normally mind but half the load was cardboard, the other half was fresh food.I wouldn’t want my food ending up tasting of smoke, nor would I want a trailer half full of cardboard to go up because some idiot couldn’t move without having a ■■■ in his mouth.
Smoked in the cab, windows closed, for the whole of the drive too.
And you didn’t say anything to him during the drive…?
Harry, i have no choice but to report you for making me laugh once again…my sides are splitting from the last time you did it, and now theyre hurting again…stop it…
Rospa rider kid has opened a can of worms, and probably wished he hadnt…i wonder how he would have got on before all this PC nonsense started…back in the day a driver would bhave got through 60 woodbines or Weights before he left the yard…and if he had reported it to the governor, he would have been called into the smoke filled office, and given a good telling off, whilst smoking and dropping ■■■ ash all over the place, about upsetting drivers and their routine…failing that he would have been swore at, and told where the gate is.
There are a lot of non smokers in this industry, and i dont know who out numbers who, but as a smoker i wouldnt dream of reporting anyone, for any misdemeanour whatsoever, so long as it doesnt interfere with my daily life or my family. I smoke in the cab, have a crafty where i shouldnt, and when the government looses so much money through the loss of taxation by smokers giving up, then Rospa boy should like to worry about that.
The government are going to ban shops from showing cigarettes on display, they are going to stop manufacturers from using the present logos on packets, and thats where me and Harry come in, we are going to manufacture a sleeve, with all the logos on, that smokers can slip over the brown paper bag thats coming in, and therefore still look like a real cigarette box…and make a fortune…ive got to try and get harry off that park bench, although im not in too much of a hurry, as summers nearly here.
truckyboy:
Harry, i have no choice but to report you for making me laugh once again…my sides are splitting from the last time you did it, and now theyre hurting again…stop it…
Rospa rider kid has opened a can of worms, and probably wished he hadnt…i wonder how he would have got on before all this PC nonsense started…back in the day a driver would bhave got through 60 woodbines or Weights before he left the yard…and if he had reported it to the governor, he would have been called into the smoke filled office, and given a good telling off, whilst smoking and dropping ■■■ ash all over the place, about upsetting drivers and their routine…failing that he would have been swore at, and told where the gate is.There are a lot of non smokers in this industry, and i dont know who out numbers who, but as a smoker i wouldnt dream of reporting anyone, for any misdemeanour whatsoever, so long as it doesnt interfere with my daily life or my family. I smoke in the cab, have a crafty where i shouldnt, and when the government looses so much money through the loss of taxation by smokers giving up, then Rospa boy should like to worry about that.
The government are going to ban shops from showing cigarettes on display, they are going to stop manufacturers from using the present logos on packets, and thats where me and Harry come in, we are going to manufacture a sleeve, with all the logos on, that smokers can slip over the brown paper bag thats coming in, and therefore still look like a real cigarette box…and make a fortune…ive got to try and get harry off that park bench, although im not in too much of a hurry, as summers nearly here.
With regard to this sleeve business for new plain box’s to slip into, I wouldn’t bother
…SO many people are going to have the same idea as you that I think its a wasted venture, I thought about doing the same thing a couple of weeks ago.
But if someone smoked in a truck whilst I was sat in there I’d have something to say about it. Whilst you might want to breathe in the harmfull stuff, I don’t. If I get into a truck at work that smells of smoke I hand the keys back in and the company then look at who last drove it. The company has said clearly they need a picture or a manager to catch the offender in action, but at least I know those people are slowly being watched ever more. I don’t mind people who smoke, but I mind when their smoke affects me! I’m sure if I had a dirty habit, like “choking the chicken” in the trucks during my breaks and it left a sweaty and salty smell, possibly even dry ■■■ flakes (as oppose to ash everywhere), I’m sure you’d complain and refuse to drive that truck!
Adam_Mc:
And you didn’t say anything to him during the drive…?
Not a thing Adam. I’m never one to sit down and keep my mouth shut but work on the agency has been really dry recently and this was a new contract that could give me 2 days a week work guaranteed for the next 6 months.
He could have been choking a small Vietnamese ■■■■■■ with my boot laces, and I wouldn’t have said a word as long as he’d passed me!
Scarab:
Adam_Mc:
And you didn’t say anything to him during the drive…?…choking a small Vietnamese ■■■■■■…
I think you need help… lol
As we all know it has been proven that the passive inhalation of tobacco smoke can be harmful to one’s health but I would love to see an evidential base that proves that passive inhalation of the ‘odour’ of tobacco smoke has the same detrimental effects 
Thought not
I’m sure the residual smell of my ■■■■■, over a 15hr shift, are more detrimental to one’s health and should be complained and reported about to them’s that should be obeyed 
Regards
Dave Penn;
Adam_Mc:
truckyboy:
Harry, i have no choice but to report you for making me laugh once again…my sides are splitting from the last time you did it, and now theyre hurting again…stop it…
Rospa rider kid has opened a can of worms, and probably wished he hadnt…i wonder how he would have got on before all this PC nonsense started…back in the day a driver would bhave got through 60 woodbines or Weights before he left the yard…and if he had reported it to the governor, he would have been called into the smoke filled office, and given a good telling off, whilst smoking and dropping ■■■ ash all over the place, about upsetting drivers and their routine…failing that he would have been swore at, and told where the gate is.There are a lot of non smokers in this industry, and i dont know who out numbers who, but as a smoker i wouldnt dream of reporting anyone, for any misdemeanour whatsoever, so long as it doesnt interfere with my daily life or my family. I smoke in the cab, have a crafty where i shouldnt, and when the government looses so much money through the loss of taxation by smokers giving up, then Rospa boy should like to worry about that.
The government are going to ban shops from showing cigarettes on display, they are going to stop manufacturers from using the present logos on packets, and thats where me and Harry come in, we are going to manufacture a sleeve, with all the logos on, that smokers can slip over the brown paper bag thats coming in, and therefore still look like a real cigarette box…and make a fortune…ive got to try and get harry off that park bench, although im not in too much of a hurry, as summers nearly here.With regard to this sleeve business for new plain box’s to slip into, I wouldn’t bother
…SO many people are going to have the same idea as you that I think its a wasted venture, I thought about doing the same thing a couple of weeks ago.But if someone smoked in a truck whilst I was sat in there I’d have something to say about it. Whilst you might want to breathe in the harmfull stuff, I don’t. If I get into a truck at work that smells of smoke I hand the keys back in and the company then look at who last drove it. The company has said clearly they need a picture or a manager to catch the offender in action, but at least I know those people are slowly being watched ever more. I don’t mind people who smoke, but I mind when their smoke affects me! I’m sure if I had a dirty habit, like “choking the chicken” in the trucks during my breaks and it left a sweaty and salty smell, possibly even dry ■■■ flakes (as oppose to ash everywhere), I’m sure you’d complain and refuse to drive that truck!
davepenn54:
As we all know it has been proven that the passive inhalation of tobacco smoke can be harmful to one’s health but I would love to see an evidential base that proves that passive inhalation of the ‘odour’ of tobacco smoke has the same detrimental effects
Thought notI’m sure the residual smell of my ■■■■■, over a 15hr shift, are more detrimental to one’s health and should be complained and reported about to them’s that should be obeyed
Regards
Dave Penn;Adam_Mc:
truckyboy:
Harry, i have no choice but to report you for making me laugh once again…my sides are splitting from the last time you did it, and now theyre hurting again…stop it…
Rospa rider kid has opened a can of worms, and probably wished he hadnt…i wonder how he would have got on before all this PC nonsense started…back in the day a driver would bhave got through 60 woodbines or Weights before he left the yard…and if he had reported it to the governor, he would have been called into the smoke filled office, and given a good telling off, whilst smoking and dropping ■■■ ash all over the place, about upsetting drivers and their routine…failing that he would have been swore at, and told where the gate is.There are a lot of non smokers in this industry, and i dont know who out numbers who, but as a smoker i wouldnt dream of reporting anyone, for any misdemeanour whatsoever, so long as it doesnt interfere with my daily life or my family. I smoke in the cab, have a crafty where i shouldnt, and when the government looses so much money through the loss of taxation by smokers giving up, then Rospa boy should like to worry about that.
The government are going to ban shops from showing cigarettes on display, they are going to stop manufacturers from using the present logos on packets, and thats where me and Harry come in, we are going to manufacture a sleeve, with all the logos on, that smokers can slip over the brown paper bag thats coming in, and therefore still look like a real cigarette box…and make a fortune…ive got to try and get harry off that park bench, although im not in too much of a hurry, as summers nearly here.With regard to this sleeve business for new plain box’s to slip into, I wouldn’t bother
…SO many people are going to have the same idea as you that I think its a wasted venture, I thought about doing the same thing a couple of weeks ago.But if someone smoked in a truck whilst I was sat in there I’d have something to say about it. Whilst you might want to breathe in the harmfull stuff, I don’t. If I get into a truck at work that smells of smoke I hand the keys back in and the company then look at who last drove it. The company has said clearly they need a picture or a manager to catch the offender in action, but at least I know those people are slowly being watched ever more. I don’t mind people who smoke, but I mind when their smoke affects me! I’m sure if I had a dirty habit, like “choking the chicken” in the trucks during my breaks and it left a sweaty and salty smell, possibly even dry ■■■ flakes (as oppose to ash everywhere), I’m sure you’d complain and refuse to drive that truck!
So with that would you be happy to go and drive a truck after me knowing I’d got myself off in there a few hours earlier and their could be dry ■■■ flakes in places for you to breathe in?..I’m clean and safe so you wouldn’t catch anything off of me! And if you’d been ■■■■■■■ in there for 15 hours and it still smelt then guess what, I’d hand the keys back! Maybe I’m just being picky?..or maybe I’m just a driver who likes to drive a clean truck ffs!
And whilst you haven’t seen any evidence that ‘odour’ can harm someones health…you will be breathing in nasty chemicals still, thats how odours are formed, but the amount is so tiny it’d be almost nothing physically…but have you considered the mental aspect of it? Whilst you might be ok with the smell, I ■■■■■■■ hate it and it “pee’s” me off and would make the rest of my day feel rubbish…why should I have to put up with that just because you were too fat, lazy and impatient to wait until you were on break or being tipped until you had a ■■■ and fluffed your own health?
Maybe I should start playing with myself in the cab…if smoking is alright, so is ■■■■■■■■■■■■!
Well fella, if you want to knock one out in yer truck thats entirely upto you.
It sounds like you have more experience of doing that and smelling the leftovers than you have taking in the aroma of stale tobacco smoke
BTW Any truck I take over usually has the ‘wet wipe’ treatment so any of your genetic material that you may have inadvertnly left behind on the steering wheel or around the cab will have been isolated and destroyed. 
And maybe you are a driver who comes from another planet, after 40yrs in the game I’ve met plenty who think they are special, know much more than everyone else and theyv’e usually ended up in a different occupation because they just couldn’t cope with having to work with people who knew a little bit more than them. 
i’ve smoked in every wagon i’ve driven and will continue to do so, although now back trampin so it doesn’t really effect anyone else, when on agency i carried some polish and a can of air freshener so i could leave it ok for the next driver which i think is just common curtesy.
did a stint for a well known place at south elmsall where they have a strict no smoking in the cab policy which involved instant dissmissal, you didn’t have to be there very long to work out that this was used as a tool to off hire poor or unreliable drivers, if they knew the driver smoked, which wasn’t hard to work out as they have a smoking shelter in the middle of the yard and that driver was taking the mickey with hours, had fell out with a company driver or had to much to say in the drivers room, the next thing you know he’s been banned from site, seen smoking in the cab!
like everyone else as soon as i was on to the A1 i’d light up, considering the £10 an hour they was paying me was for driving their wagon from a to b and back not to dictate my life.
davepenn54:
Well fella, if you want to knock one out in yer truck
It sounds like you have more experience of doing that and smelling the leftovers than you have taking in the aroma of stale tobacco smokeBTW Any truck I take over usually has the ‘wet wipe’ treatment so any of your genetic material that you may have inadvertnly left behind on the steering wheel or around the cab will have been isolated and destroyed.
And maybe you are a driver who comes from another planet, after 40yrs in the game I’ve met plenty who think they are special, know much more than everyone else and theyv’e usually ended up in a different occupation because they just couldn’t cope with having to work with people who knew a little bit more than them.
Fine…I’ll blow my load over the ceiling…I know you won’t wipe that down and every time you go over a little bump some flakes will land in your hair (if you have any) and stay there for the rest of your shift
But on a serious note, I’m not from another planet and don’t believe I’m more special than any other driver, but I just believe I shouldn’t have to put up with something created by someone else because of their simple arrogance. For people who tramp in their trucks (and they’re the sole user) then I think smoking is fine inside the vehicle, but for a fleet vehicle where another guy/guyess has to get into it later, I just don’t think thats fair.
And you mention about people who ended up in another occupation because they couldn’t cope…blah blah blah…geez, you make it sound like driving a truck is some sort of exclusive club and I should be privileged to be a trucker or something. But the way I see things, and as many other people have said, some people work in an office, well, that cab is my office for the day so why should it be treated like your own home instead of a place of work! But I know of two things that do make me privileged…one is if I don’t like the truck, I can hand the keys back and get another set no questions asked and Two, I’ll be changing my occupation gladly when the time comes because I want to, so lay off with the whole superior “if yer face don’t fit” crap.
Oh dear Adam_Mc, being a truck driver is not a privileged occupation but being someone who thinks they are a bit above their workmates is a very privileged position
You don’t like the odour of tobacco in a truck you might have to drive but that is not illegal or is it Please show me some kind of evidence that proves that the inhalation of the odour of tobacco is harmful
I feel sure the ‘agency’ or is it agencie’s you are signed up with provide you with loads of work but maybe that work is all the shifts that don’t coincide with anyone else that you can find some kind of silly fault with Think about it
Get a life mate, find something else to get wound up about
BTW your posts have provided me with the most laughs I have had for a long time Well thats along with a few others who shall remain nameless
Smoke Forevever
Regards
Dave Penn;
I’m a non smoking tramper driver and it really pee’s me off when drivers smoke in the truck when i’m off duty.
I suffer from an allergy to smoke and ash,if someone goes to light up next to me,i apoligise to them that i’m not being ignorant but i’m off as i just know that within a couple of minutes i’ll be off sneezing and coughing.
Personally i find some drivers who smoke to be completely arrogant and obvlious to their actions,i mean they can see that i’ve got 5 various no smoking stickers and signs and whether its to just pee me off or not they’ll smoke in the cab on purpose,one question,why??
2 weeks ago an agency driver had smoked in my truck,reported him and was told he’d been told on countless occasions about it and so he was banned,was told that he was the 5th one in a week to be banned for the same reason.
Whats wrong with a non-smokers wishes being respected as well as a smokers wishes??,surely it is common courtesy to respect someones home and their wishes,its against the law and its against company rules.I absolutley detest the stale smell of smoke in the cab,on my bedding and on my curtains.
I wouldnt go taking pics though,i mean if a tramper smokes in his vehicle at our depot then thats upto him but if the next driver doesnt smoke then he can refuse to drive it.
And if you were a raging alcoholic you would be invited into a nice warm room for a cuddle
As a comitted smoker who has no intention of stopping I do also take into account the feeling’s and rights of colleagues who do not smoke or have an allergy to tobacco smoke. In my truck, which I am the only person to drive 99% of the time I always make sure the window or roof vent is open when I’m smoking. I always wash the cab curtains at least once every 12 months to make sure any stale tobacco odour is eliminated from the vehicle.
I also smoke roll ups so the tobacco doesn’t contain as many additives & chemicals as packaged cigs.
We recently did a days CPC traing and the trainer was bangin on about not smoking in the vehicles and after him telling me he also wouldn’t want to drive a vehicle a smoker had been using I challenged him to go outside and pick out the truck that I alone had spent driving for the last 3 months and had smoked in continuously for that period of time. Needless to say he could not pick out my truck as a ‘smokers’ truck from any of the other’s
I also showed the him the letter that ‘Harry Monk’ had received from his local ‘Smoking Cessation Enforcement Officer’ in regards to one vehicle one driver and how the non smoking rules do not apply in these circumstances.
The trainer had to concede that I had proved my point but It was still illegall to smoke in the cab but as it seems that ‘Council Employee’s or Enforcment Officers’ are the only people who are on the watch out for this misdemeanor it appears that it will be one of those things that eventually get forgotten about in the midst of all the job losses and funding cuts that are now decimating all our public services. 
Roll on the coalition and all it’s ■■■ lickin, lip kissin, nob suckin voters/followers
Hope you all rot in the place that you all deserve to rot 
Smoke Forever
Regards
Dave Penn;
Dave,even though you say your a commited smoker you also sound like a considerate smoker too. I’m not dead against smokers,Christ my old man smokes roll ups and all the time I used to go with him in the school holidays,I never smelt or was bad with them because he too smokes with the window open or when at home he goes outside to smoke,and no he is not told to go outside by me and my mum he does it out of his own freewill as he is considerate too!
Btw,WTF has the coalition got to do with no smoking in work vehicles■■? It was Tony Blair and his government of nanny state that allowed the rule to come in.
I`ve a confession to make…i lied in my post …i try and use rubbish bins wherever i can, and i rarely throw things out of the window…except ciggy butts, and chewing gum…but i realised my mistake when i threw a ciggy ■■■■ out and it landed in a convertible with the roof down…so sorry if i burnt the back seat…but i dont have an ash tray to put the things out in…something i used to have when we were allowed to smoke, but dont now in case management see the evidence of me smoking in the cab, if you see what i mean, unless someone takes my photo with me actually doing it.