So according to this dailymail.co.uk/news/article … efore.html you lazy twonks are all dragging the arse out of the job, either that or dieseldog99 has retired and that’s had a dramatic effect on the average speed figures.
You want to speed up HGVs?
Easy…
Scrap hourly pay in favour of fixed salary and make every drop “job and finish”
Sorted.
I love the way that this is a bad news story from the Daily Fails twisted logic
But figures from the Department for Transport show the average speed travelled by articulated lorries on these roads slowed from 45mph to 44mph.
Other HGVs also slowed by 1mph from 46mph to 45mph.
Edmund King, president of the AA, said: ‘It had been hoped that higher lorry speeds would take the frustration out of being stuck behind an HGV on a single carriage road and reduce the likelihood of dangerous overtaking.’
But evidence from Department of Transport average speed statistics suggest little has changed. Whether it’s still too early to tell, or there’s more traffic on the roads, or whether lorry drivers are sticking to speeds they are used to, cars continue to follow HGV’s in ‘platoons’.
Maybe its that truckers who previously would do 56mph every where, because 40 mph on single carriageways was to slow and once you have exceeded the limit, you might aswell go the whole hog, are actualy satisfied to travel at 50mph-ish, so staying the right side of legal but still making decent progress is less of a hassle 
When I see a platoon(I like that, a new way to describe queue)behind me, I think about all the fuel I’m saving the frustrated Beemer brigade
I wonder what those total sadacts at BRAKE have to say about this.
A.
I find it difficult to take seriously an article that has as one of the sub-headlines “Efforts to increase speed up car journeys by increasing car journeys has had the opposite effect” 
Perhaps their next campaign should be to increase the standard of journalism and newspaper article proofing 
I agree about the 20mph speed limits though, they’re trying to turn parts of Birmingham into large car parks with 20mph speed limits in places that there’s never been a problem 
I’d guess that under the previous 40mph limit, car drivers had less trouble booting it to get past because the starting speed is lower, plus for those speshul drivers who combine impatience with not wanting to speed, 60mph is fine to pass a lorry doing 40mph. Now it’s 50mph, every time you reach a straight the lorry driver is going to be on the accelerator for longer and those straights don’t seem so inviting any more.
You only need 1 or 2 cars unwilling to overtake before you’ve got a platoon you can’t pass (unless you’re 17 in a shed with a dustbin for an exhaust, of course, when the rules for a safe overtake are different!)
slowlane:
I’d guess that under the previous 40mph limit, car drivers had less trouble booting it to get past because the starting speed is lower, plus for those speshul drivers who combine impatience with not wanting to speed, 60mph is fine to pass a lorry doing 40mph. Now it’s 50mph, every time you reach a straight the lorry driver is going to be on the accelerator for longer and those straights don’t seem so inviting any more.You only need 1 or 2 cars unwilling to overtake before you’ve got a platoon you can’t pass (unless you’re 17 in a shed with a dustbin for an exhaust, of course, when the rules for a safe overtake are different!)
There may be merit in what you say, but in my experience, 40 mph used to bring on more dangerous overtakes than doing 50mph, it seemed that 40mph used to wind up car drivers more, as it was such a larger differential to the speed the expected to be able to achieve, where at 50mph more are accepting that they are still making reasonable progress. Well that’s what I think any way, judging by pleasant waves I get from passing beemers, coffee beans anyone
tachograph:
I find it difficult to take seriously an article that has as one of the sub-headlines “Efforts to increase speed up car journeys by increasing car journeys has had the opposite effect”Perhaps their next campaign should be to increase the standard of journalism and newspaper article proofing
that’s one of the worst bits of English I’ve ever seen written down! Some how many people out had to get through before it was published
switchlogic:
tachograph:
I find it difficult to take seriously an article that has as one of the sub-headlines “Efforts to increase speed up car journeys by increasing car journeys has had the opposite effect”Perhaps their next campaign should be to increase the standard of journalism and newspaper article proofing
Not only that, it doesn’t make sense.
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85 clicks on the motorway…
79 clicks on the A roads.
ker-ching
Well I don’t understand how it’s not helping! I’ve just caned it back from my drop and am now tossing it off in a lay by with all the time I’ve made up. So I’ve helped the car traffic in 2 ways. Once while I was on the road caning it, and again now in sat here tossing it off well out of their way! Lol
switchlogic:
tachograph:
I find it difficult to take seriously an article that has as one of the sub-headlines “Efforts to increase speed up car journeys by increasing car journeys has had the opposite effect”Perhaps their next campaign should be to increase the standard of journalism and newspaper article proofing
Are you after a job with the DM or something 
Agreed though, the level of English let alone substantial content from the DM is extremely ■■■■ poor
eddie snax:
I love the way that this is a bad news story from the Daily Fails twisted logicBut figures from the Department for Transport show the average speed travelled by articulated lorries on these roads slowed from 45mph to 44mph.
Other HGVs also slowed by 1mph from 46mph to 45mph.
Edmund King, president of the AA, said: ‘It had been hoped that higher lorry speeds would take the frustration out of being stuck behind an HGV on a single carriage road and reduce the likelihood of dangerous overtaking.’
But evidence from Department of Transport average speed statistics suggest little has changed. Whether it’s still too early to tell, or there’s more traffic on the roads, or whether lorry drivers are sticking to speeds they are used to, cars continue to follow HGV’s in ‘platoons’.
Maybe its that truckers who previously would do 56mph every where, because 40 mph on single carriageways was to slow and once you have exceeded the limit, you might aswell go the whole hog, are actualy satisfied to travel at 50mph-ish, so staying the right side of legal but still making decent progress is less of a hassle
When I see a platoon(I like that, a new way to describe queue)behind me, I think about all the fuel I’m saving the frustrated Beemer brigade
^^ I was always flat out on nsl, generally I sit at 50 now
I’ve noticed that since the speed limit went up for hgv there are some roads that have had the speed limit reduced from 60 to 50.
There are a few roads in particular near me that have reduced from national speed limit to 50 mainly single carriageway but also a few dual carriageway sections reduced to 50.
If anyone knows the Bochum Parkway in Sheffield dual carriageway 40mph 
ridiculous 
runs from Greenhill to Lightwood/Norton and heading towards Gleadless/Manor (for those out of town)
Unmarked cars DO operate My wife joined Bochum Parkway towards Greenhill and was passed by a fast moving car, thought nothing of it (she admitted to doing 50 at the time ) Then another car passed her seconds later Then she saw blue lights and flashing for the first car that had passed her 
She now only does 40 on that road
Perhaps if drivers of these “platoons of cars” who are stuck behind lorries actually were good or confident enough to overtake safely then it would become a non issue! I don’t expect someone to overtake at Mach 2 with their hair on fire over the crest of a hill, but when I’m at the head of traffic on a long, straight piece of road with no oncoming traffic or junctions coming up and doing my bit to keep well to the left to provide maximum visibility to those behind I would expect them to at least “pop” out to have a look!
Truth be out I reckon that most of them are up my arse because conditioning has taught them that lorries are slow and ■■■■■■■■■■■ and if I wasn’t there they’d probably be travelling at 40mph with a bewildered look on their faces. Sheep.
eddie snax:
I love the way that this is a bad news story from the Daily Fails twisted logicBut figures from the Department for Transport show the average speed travelled by articulated lorries on these roads slowed from 45mph to 44mph.
Other HGVs also slowed by 1mph from 46mph to 45mph.
Edmund King, president of the AA, said: ‘It had been hoped that higher lorry speeds would take the frustration out of being stuck behind an HGV on a single carriage road and reduce the likelihood of dangerous overtaking.’
But evidence from Department of Transport average speed statistics suggest little has changed. Whether it’s still too early to tell, or there’s more traffic on the roads, or whether lorry drivers are sticking to speeds they are used to, cars continue to follow HGV’s in ‘platoons’.
Maybe its that truckers who previously would do 56mph every where, because 40 mph on single carriageways was to slow and once you have exceeded the limit, you might aswell go the whole hog, are actualy satisfied to travel at 50mph-ish, so staying the right side of legal but still making decent progress is less of a hassle
When I see a platoon(I like that, a new way to describe queue)behind me, I think about all the fuel I’m saving the frustrated Beemer brigade
How can they even measure a 1 mph difference and why wouldn’t they expect a 50 mph ‘max’ speed regime to produce no more than mid 40’s ‘average’ IE the speed is around the same because trucks were often running at around 50 mph before.As for ‘platoons’ of traffic following slower moving vehicles.What type of muppet does he think is going to risk an overtake on a single carriage road with a 10 mph max speed differential or getting caught by a speed camera conveniently placed by plod in a perfect overtaking spot. On that note if they want less trucks or even less traffic in general using A or B roads they need to relax the motorway speed regime to make it worth the risk of getting caught in a massive jam between junctions etc etc.If not just expect the problem of over loaded A roads,caused by traffic sensibly avoiding motorways,to increase.
Most cars shows speed incorrect.
So 50 MPH truck would be around 55 MPH car speed.
That’s close to legal 60 MPH speed. All u need is few cars that happy with a downgraded speed information and u have a train of cars following.
the maoster:
Perhaps if drivers of these “platoons of cars” who are stuck behind lorries actually were good or confident enough to overtake safely then it would become a non issue! I don’t expect someone to overtake at Mach 2 with their hair on fire over the crest of a hill, but when I’m at the head of traffic on a long, straight piece of road with no oncoming traffic or junctions coming up and doing my bit to keep well to the left to provide maximum visibility to those behind I would expect them to at least “pop” out to have a look!Truth be out I reckon that most of them are up my arse because conditioning has taught them that lorries are slow and ■■■■■■■■■■■ and if I wasn’t there they’d probably be travelling at 40mph with a bewildered look on their faces. Sheep.
If I’m overtaking a truck on a single carriage type road you can bet that I’d want at least a 20 mph speed differential preferably more.Now where do you think that the ‘safety’ camera operators are more likely to put the camera.On the nice well sighted over taking opportunity or in the 30 limit ?.
Dan ze Man:
Most cars shows speed incorrect.So 50 MPH truck would be around 55 MPH car speed.
That’s close to legal 60 MPH speed. All u need is few cars that happy with a downgraded speed information and u have a train of cars following.
With 3 points for the trouble firstly who cares about any speedo error when even 60 mph + 10% isn’t going to be enough to minimise the time exposed to danger when overtaking a truck.The fact is excessive speed enforcement and safe over taking,especially in the case of large trucks,don’t mix.
Reef:
Easy…Scrap hourly pay in favour of fixed salary and make every drop “job and finish”
Sorted.
Looks like someone wants a job in the transport office, 9-5
tommymanc:
Reef:
Easy…Scrap hourly pay in favour of fixed salary and make every drop “job and finish”
Sorted.
Looks like someone wants a job in the transport office, 9-5
Swear at me again fella and I’ll hunt you down and punch you in the neck, and if that don’t work or you’re to scary a looking fella then I’ll set me Mam on ya
