Conor:
…snip…However for those when something has happened such as slamming on to avoid an accident then if anything comes of it such as a ranty person phoning up to complain or claim you damaged their vehicle there’s either going to be evidence to fight your corner or damning evidence you weren’t driving to a decent standard which contributed to the event happening and if it is the latter then you shouldn’t be in a truck.
I don’t have the faith you have in that footage being made available to defend yourself. Probably use the data ptotection act or whatever it’s called nowadays to deny you access without a court order. However some of the past managements I’ve worked under would find no issues with telling you that footage shows this, that & the other therefore you are guilt of the allegation, goodbye.
lolipop:
Nothing to hide, nothing to bother about.
Exactly, that from experience is my take. One place I worked at the cameras had a sound recording facillity too so your vocal reactions could be taken too…
To all those who trot out the tired old mantra of “if you’ve nothing to hide then you’ve nothing to fear” I ask this: when you go for a dump in toilets not your own, works, services etc, do you ever close the door? After all, you’ve nothing to hide, have you?
And when you park up at night, why do you bother closing the curtains on your cab? You’re not up to anything illegal are you? So why hide away from the world?
Juddian:
If you are not bothered you are one of the very few.
Can anyone link to a post where someone has been sacked because of in cab cameras?
If it was truly as bad as people on here claim it is then we’d be getting almost daily stories of drivers brought in for disciplinaries or for getting the sack because the in cab cameras had seen them doing something they shouldn’t. Best of luck, I await a response but I doubt there will be one or if there is it will be the only one in the entire history of this forum. Crack on guys, find the links of rafts of drivers posting they’re getting the boot because their boss saw them doing something they shouldn’t when they were driving down the road and nothing happened.
The reason I’m not bothered is because we’re already caught on CCTV pretty much everywhere we go that it is a non-issue for me. Pretty much all businesses you visit you’re on CCTV, some of the houses you walk past you’re on CCTV, every time you use a cash machine you’re on CCTV. You’ll be on CCTV when you drive into work and when you leave, you’re on CCTV as you go about your daily business. By all means get your tin foil hat on but really the only people who have to be worried about it are those who shouldn’t be in a truck in the first place.
Truth of the matter is these devices have limited storage which gets overwritten every so many minutes they’re active, usually 30, so they’re not going to be storing everything you do for the full day so at worst if nothing happened during the shift there’s the last 30 minutes of you picking your nose as you drive down the road. However for those when something has happened such as slamming on to avoid an accident then if anything comes of it such as a ranty person phoning up to complain or claim you damaged their vehicle there’s either going to be evidence to fight your corner or damning evidence you weren’t driving to a decent standard which contributed to the event happening and if it is the latter then you shouldn’t be in a truck.
Juddian:
If you are not bothered you are one of the very few.
Can anyone link to a post where someone has been sacked because of in cab cameras?
If it was truly as bad as people on here claim it is then we’d be getting almost daily stories of drivers brought in for disciplinaries or for getting the sack because the in cab cameras had seen them doing something they shouldn’t. Best of luck, I await a response but I doubt there will be one or if there is it will be the only one in the entire history of this forum. Crack on guys, find the links of rafts of drivers posting they’re getting the boot because their boss saw them doing something they shouldn’t when they were driving down the road and nothing happened.
The reason I’m not bothered is because we’re already caught on CCTV pretty much everywhere we go that it is a non-issue for me. Pretty much all businesses you visit you’re on CCTV, some of the houses you walk past you’re on CCTV, every time you use a cash machine you’re on CCTV. You’ll be on CCTV when you drive into work and when you leave, you’re on CCTV as you go about your daily business. By all means get your tin foil hat on but really the only people who have to be worried about it are those who shouldn’t be in a truck in the first place.
Truth of the matter is these devices have limited storage which gets overwritten every so many minutes they’re active, usually 30, so they’re not going to be storing everything you do for the full day so at worst if nothing happened during the shift there’s the last 30 minutes of you picking your nose as you drive down the road. However for those when something has happened such as slamming on to avoid an accident then if anything comes of it such as a ranty person phoning up to complain or claim you damaged their vehicle there’s either going to be evidence to fight your corner or damning evidence you weren’t driving to a decent standard which contributed to the event happening and if it is the latter then you shouldn’t be in a truck.
Juddian:
If you are not bothered you are one of the very few.
Can anyone link to a post where someone has been sacked because of in cab cameras?
If it was truly as bad as people on here claim it is then we’d be getting almost daily stories of drivers brought in for disciplinaries or for getting the sack because the in cab cameras had seen them doing something they shouldn’t. Best of luck, I await a response but I doubt there will be one or if there is it will be the only one in the entire history of this forum. Crack on guys, find the links of rafts of drivers posting they’re getting the boot because their boss saw them doing something they shouldn’t when they were driving down the road and nothing happened.
The reason I’m not bothered is because we’re already caught on CCTV pretty much everywhere we go that it is a non-issue for me. Pretty much all businesses you visit you’re on CCTV, some of the houses you walk past you’re on CCTV, every time you use a cash machine you’re on CCTV. You’ll be on CCTV when you drive into work and when you leave, you’re on CCTV as you go about your daily business. By all means get your tin foil hat on but really the only people who have to be worried about it are those who shouldn’t be in a truck in the first place.
Truth of the matter is these devices have limited storage which gets overwritten every so many minutes they’re active, usually 30, so they’re not going to be storing everything you do for the full day so at worst if nothing happened during the shift there’s the last 30 minutes of you picking your nose as you drive down the road. However for those when something has happened such as slamming on to avoid an accident then if anything comes of it such as a ranty person phoning up to complain or claim you damaged their vehicle there’s either going to be evidence to fight your corner or damning evidence you weren’t driving to a decent standard which contributed to the event happening and if it is the latter then you shouldn’t be in a truck.
Well speaking as a guy that’s a cowboy/bad driver who has 70s standards/someone who shouldn’t be driving a truck…, and all the rest of the stuff you’ve accused me of on here in the past Conor (which is an amazing analysis in it’s self seeing as you’ve judged me on forum posts rather than actually knowing me )…btw you won’t remember as you tend to accuse many on here of the same who do not agree with some of your more subservient views don’t you.
Anyway my point is you’ve changed my mind, go for it I’m sold, ''nobody has been sacked" after all as you say, so that’s a good enough reason alone for you …and now me.
Furthermore because of the things you point out I’m going to start a campaign to get public ‘‘KhaziCams’’ (a snappy title eh, should be enough to brainwash people like yourself) because as you rightly point, you’re facing CCTV cameras in every other walk of life, all our privacy has gone, so what’s the difference, let’s all be filmed with our knobs out and us wiping our arses.
Why don’t we all just say ■■■■ our rights to fairness and standards, and become unpaid lobotomised fully servile slaves and be done with it.
Reckon some of us are already there.
Me personally I’ve no problem with the front outward facing cameras and the side ones,but inward facing ones I don’t agree with them at all,I look at it as my personal space where I have my break e.t.c,I don’t think my transport manager would have one facing him in his little office all day,All the people saying if your doing nothing wrong you’ve nothing to worry about,that’s up to you but for me it’s a no no…
A camera could be handy to catch the bar steward who had a ■■■ in your cab. You know, just to make sure you got the right man before you broke his legs
Regards John.
Driver facing cameras are one thing but a camera in your fridge compartment? Thats the line right there.
Imagine you had a bump. They looked back the footage, saw you’d eaten something that was a day out of date and deduced you were maybe suffering from mild food poisoning.
You promptly get the sack and end up in debt. You develop a drink and/or drug problem, the debts rise and you end up losing your house, your wife leaves you for the guy across the road who still has a job and the kids disown you for the shame.
And in a final kick in the knackers, you end up having to rattle a collection tin in a shopping centre on a Saturday afternoon just to survive.
Doesn’t bear thinking about
On a more serious note, i find it ironic that Conor of all people, the biggest mouthpiece about calling other people sheep who cant think for themselves, is the one parroting the “Youre on cctv everywhere these days so whats the difference?” tagline.
IF drivers were to be paid a higher wage for this unfettered invasion to privacy that driver-facing cameras represent - then it might be worth putting up with.
That isn’t, and has never been the case however.
Unions will continue to oppose such plans tooth and nail.
Workplaces without Unions - will be given the choice of “put up with it, or move on”.
At least the time is now coming where there is somewhere better to move on TO though.
I was talking to a security guard on the gate where I work. Not a massive place.
14 units. 20 odd trailers.
He said there’s a total of 67 cameras monitoring the yard and offices and any camera can be tapped into at any given moment.
In this presence of Big Brother I see my cab as the last bastion of privacy.
We have outward facing cameras and I even have one of my own but if they bring driver facing cams in then then can stick it.
Glad I didn’t peruse things where you are Muckaway. What privacy I have left I value highly.
Muckaway:
The place where I work are going to fit new trucks with all round cameras in the cab
Yes you should …,.and if all drivers made a stand against it, it would not happen…, but drivers being drivers do not, so it does.
All the bs in the world about ‘reduced insurance premiums’ and ‘‘cameras are everywhere so what’s the difference’’ and the usual old mantra from the spineless ("What’s to fear if you’re doing nothing wrong’’ ) or even the best rate of pay in the UK would not make me put up with that crap.
It’s a step too far in the whole cluster [zb] of over monitoring in this job, not to mention a downright [zb] liberty.
I would just jack the whole thing in tomorrow fact.
+1, I’m with you on this one Rob. I’ve got nothing to hide but my boss doesn’t have a camera on his desk watching him play candy crush all day so why should I have one in my face.
Conor:
The reason I’m not bothered is because we’re already caught on CCTV pretty much everywhere we go that it is a non-issue for me. Pretty much all businesses you visit you’re on CCTV, some of the houses you walk past you’re on CCTV, every time you use a cash machine you’re on CCTV. You’ll be on CCTV when you drive into work and when you leave, you’re on CCTV as you go about your daily business. By all means get your tin foil hat on but really the only people who have to be worried about it are those who shouldn’t be in a truck in the first place.
Correct, everywhere you go, you are on CCTV. But in-cab the CCTV is on you, and only you. That’s the difference.
Conor:
The reason I’m not bothered is because we’re already caught on CCTV pretty much everywhere we go that it is a non-issue for me. Pretty much all businesses you visit you’re on CCTV, some of the houses you walk past you’re on CCTV, every time you use a cash machine you’re on CCTV. You’ll be on CCTV when you drive into work and when you leave, you’re on CCTV as you go about your daily business. By all means get your tin foil hat on but really the only people who have to be worried about it are those who shouldn’t be in a truck in the first place.
Correct, everywhere you go, you are on CCTV. But in-cab the CCTV is on you, and only you. That’s the difference.
Robroy ,from your previous postings on this subject I believe you have an in cab cam in 'your ’ truck ■■ If this is the case how come your still working there or not had the camera removed ■■?
Not having a pop btw just askin
As for my firm we have ,forward facing , down both sides and reversing , all recorded onto memory card . My reversing cam doesn’t work , I defect it each day but no ones interested in fixing it my trailer has mesh ramps so can see thru it pretty much anyway .
We have a couple of rigid beaver tails with solid ramps so u can’t see anything right behind you , Again the reversing cams are broken on those . I hate driving those and consider it a safety issue (ok I can get out and look but no guarantee a member of the public won’t walk behind )
Anyway back on topic I’d definatly have something to say / be handing in my notice if in cab cams were fitted .
After all when we had cctv fitted in the yard and buildings the gaffer refused to have them fitted in the office /reception where he works !
Incidently should the truck be fitted with a sign saying cctv in use or whatever , ours don’t and I thought it was a requirement ( privacy laws or something ■■?)
Steve66:
Glad I didn’t peruse things where you are Muckaway. What privacy I have left I value highly.
I think it’s been brought in due to a few animals who mistreat the vehicles. It’s the most watched place I’ve ever worked but it’s the easiest job and cleanest job I’ve had.
At the end of the day money talks and I’m on a a good gig here, so much so I’ve shelved any plans to do my class 1. Just no need for it now.
Mikey D:
Robroy ,from your previous postings on this subject I believe you have an in cab cam in 'your ’ truck ■■ If this is the case how come your still working there or not had the camera removed ■■?
Not having a pop btw just askin
Ok, I’ll believe you aint having a pop…despite the rolling eyes.
Yeh, you’re dead right mate, I’ve said on here on many occasions I have a camera, (but thankfully NOT the constant surveillance/recording type we are all on about, where some nosey 2hat in an office with nothing better to do, can snoop on you at a whim …which would force me to call it a day.
The type we have are the ones that go off if you brake hard, (or hit something ), both outward and inward facing.
I have no probs whatsoever with the outward facing part, but strongly objected at the time to the inward one (along with about 4 others but the yes men were in the majority so they went in. )
Since that day I have had it covered up, it caused a few rows at first but I think they just gave up on me,… (maybe because I’m usually bottom of the league for activating it,who knows/cares.
A co in the N.East had them fitted at the same time, but their drivers had the balls to resist it and they were taken out, which kinda proves my point 9n gettingbresults if you all make a stand.
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(which is an amazing analysis in it’s self seeing as you’ve judged me on forum posts rather than actually knowing me 
)…btw you won’t remember as you tend to accuse many on here of the same who do not agree with some of your more subservient views don’t you.
…and now me.
Again the reversing cams are broken on those . I hate driving those and consider it a safety issue (ok I can get out and look but no guarantee a member of the public 
won’t walk behind