Shortage of lgv drivers...the solution

Winseer:
If one is “Better educated” and off sick whilst posting - then does that make one “Ill Literate”? :smiling_imp:

Who is off sick whilst posting? I ask for 3 to 4 nights a week because that’s all I need and want to do, I get 3 to 4 nights a week. Mon, Thu, Fri last week, Mon, Thu, Fri this week.

Just because you’re poor and have to work 5 days and even if you didn’t you’re a slave to your employer so you have to work what they tell you doesn’t mean everyone is.

Winseer:
Back to “On Topic” and the solution is obvious:

Train UK born young drivers to be the new generation of truckers.

They don’t want to do it. What are you going to do, force them to?

I think Winseer was making a joke ‘C’, ‘ill’-literate as in poorly literate or sick literate or even obnoxious literate. Don’t think he meant to offend.

I could have the context wrong though.

Nowt wrong with 3-4 nights a week if that meets with your requirements. I work all week myself, coz I’m poor. Rich in life’s important stuff though.

Conor:
They don’t want to do it. What are you going to do, force them to?

People would do it if it was a job which paid well, as it used to be but the simple fact is that pay has not kept up with inflation for over a decade now as a result of which it’s not much more than a minimum wage job nowadays and that makes the financial outlay in obtaining the licence(s) not financially worthwhile.

A large part of the reason for this has been because of the influx of eastern European drivers and now the industry seems to have decided that the next solution to the “driver shortage” is to scrape even further down the barrel by replacing second-world pay rates with third-world pay rates.

I gave it all up 9 weeks ago…Because I can.
In those 9 weeks my back has decided it is fine and needs no careful treatment, I can get out of a chair, up off the floor, without even thinking about it.
My diet has improved, as I now have time to prepare myself fresh fruit for breakfast and can wash my hands properly whilst doing so.
I seldom eat processed foods now and when I eat, I do it in a civilised fashion, as a table and then am able to relax afterwards.
I no longer get treated like a leper with an STD, I no longer have to wear a clowns outfit, nor ask where the toilets are, speaking of which…Back to 3 dumps a day, far better for my body.

Psychologically, I am no longer as stressed as I was, I am calmer and the murderous feelings I once had towards other human beings are slowly disappearing…

Looking back, perhaps I could have managed myself in a better way, but it is difficult to do so when the infrastructure is not really there…I don`t know, all I do know, is that I feel better than I have for a long time and I was only doing 2-3 days per week.

My medical runs out in November and I am not sure I shall bother…Who knows, perhaps in a months time I may be missing the driving…Never say never.

att:
I gave it all up 9 weeks ago…Because I can.
In those 9 weeks my back has decided it is fine and needs no careful treatment, I can get out of a chair, up off the floor, without even thinking about it.
My diet has improved, as I now have time to prepare myself fresh fruit for breakfast and can wash my hands properly whilst doing so.
I seldom eat processed foods now and when I eat, I do it in a civilised fashion, as a table and then am able to relax afterwards.
I no longer get treated like a leper with an STD, I no longer have to wear a clowns outfit, nor ask where the toilets are, speaking of which…Back to 3 dumps a day, far better for my body.

Psychologically, I am no longer as stressed as I was, I am calmer and the murderous feelings I once had towards other human beings are slowly disappearing…

Looking back, perhaps I could have managed myself in a better way, but it is difficult to do so when the infrastructure is not really there…I don`t know, all I do know, is that I feel better than I have for a long time and I was only doing 2-3 days per week.

My medical runs out in November and I am not sure I shall bother…Who knows, perhaps in a months time I may be missing the driving…Never say never.

Att you are obviously a smart guy, you understand at a basic level the human physce (sp) and you understand how and why we as humans interact the way we do, so I’ve got to say, and this is in no way intended to be a pop at you, but I can’t recognise in myself any of the situations and things that wind you up and stress you. I’m honestly surprised that you, knowing human nature as you do allow what are in reality petty things to affect you so. Either way I wish you luck in your future endeavours mate.

att:
I gave it all up 9 weeks ago…Because I can.
In those 9 weeks my back has decided it is fine and needs no careful treatment, I can get out of a chair, up off the floor, without even thinking about it.
My diet has improved, as I now have time to prepare myself fresh fruit for breakfast and can wash my hands properly whilst doing so.
I seldom eat processed foods now and when I eat, I do it in a civilised fashion, as a table and then am able to relax afterwards.
I no longer get treated like a leper with an STD, I no longer have to wear a clowns outfit, nor ask where the toilets are, speaking of which…Back to 3 dumps a day, far better for my body.

Psychologically, I am no longer as stressed as I was, I am calmer and the murderous feelings I once had towards other human beings are slowly disappearing…

Looking back, perhaps I could have managed myself in a better way, but it is difficult to do so when the infrastructure is not really there…I don`t know, all I do know, is that I feel better than I have for a long time and I was only doing 2-3 days per week.

My medical runs out in November and I am not sure I shall bother…Who knows, perhaps in a months time I may be missing the driving…Never say never.

You’ll be back driving before Christmas. All the old-timers do that “hang their keys up for good” and retire as they’re bored to crap rattling around in the house with nothing to do after a couple of months. You see it at every transport company in the land and it’s always the drivers who whinged the loudest about the job, hours, conditions that are the first ones back, too.

the maoster:

att:
I gave it all up 9 weeks ago…Because I can.
In those 9 weeks my back has decided it is fine and needs no careful treatment, I can get out of a chair, up off the floor, without even thinking about it.
My diet has improved, as I now have time to prepare myself fresh fruit for breakfast and can wash my hands properly whilst doing so.
I seldom eat processed foods now and when I eat, I do it in a civilised fashion, as a table and then am able to relax afterwards.
I no longer get treated like a leper with an STD, I no longer have to wear a clowns outfit, nor ask where the toilets are, speaking of which…Back to 3 dumps a day, far better for my body.

Psychologically, I am no longer as stressed as I was, I am calmer and the murderous feelings I once had towards other human beings are slowly disappearing…

Looking back, perhaps I could have managed myself in a better way, but it is difficult to do so when the infrastructure is not really there…I don`t know, all I do know, is that I feel better than I have for a long time and I was only doing 2-3 days per week.

My medical runs out in November and I am not sure I shall bother…Who knows, perhaps in a months time I may be missing the driving…Never say never.

Att you are obviously a smart guy, you understand at a basic level the human physce (sp) and you understand how and why we as humans interact the way we do, so I’ve got to say, and this is in no way intended to be a pop at you, but I can’t recognise in myself any of the situations and things that wind you up and stress you. I’m honestly surprised that you, knowing human nature as you do allow what are in reality petty things to affect you so. Either way I wish you luck in your future endeavours mate.

A really good observation is that and I have asked myself the same question and tried different coping strategies, however I really do think it is as simple that the fact is…I am an idealist, not a realist…I see so many opportunities for improving the industry and many others for that fact, yet it is all brought down to the lowest common denominator by accountants each time, which in my opinion is to waste opportunities and it does really wind me up…

We could all be so much better!