Scotland Out Of The EU

Immigrant:
'…You have the … Hadrians Wall…’

It isn’t a national border, matey since England is on both sides of Hadrian’s Wall …and as an Englishman - and by being culturally raped & abused by Brussels on a daily basis, I’ll not be at all happy to concede an inch :wink:

Besides, over the years Hadrian’s Wall has been significantly plundered of materiel and has become majorly incomplete - unless you’re likely to advocate an air corridor patrolled by Typhoons of the English Air Force to keep the sweaties content - but more pertinently, the plundering element amongst the non-integrating European contingent out :neutral_face:

In which case count me in :smiley:

i do hope england, wales, and ni realise that if scotland were too gain independance then the 3 nations would also be out of the eu because at the minute it is the united kingdom in the eu which is scotland, england, wales and northern ireland. but relax it’ll never happen as scotland has too much money invested in the other 3 nations too go it alone :laughing:

As Scotland is seeking to gain independence from the UK it would therefore not be a part of the entity which is a full member of the EU. Therefore Scotland would have to re-apply for membership of the EU as a new member. This would mean a separate Scotland having to sign up to the euro and the Schengen Agreement unless it can secure its own version of the UK’s opt-outs.

Stan

It won’t happen, it’s just the ramblings of an egotistical wee man with a massive ( deep fried ) chip on his shoulder. The vast majority of the population in Scotland DO NOT want this.

Happy Keith:
patrolled by Typhoons of the English Air Force

Unfortunately half of the English Air Force is in Scotland mate

Up to 2008 that’s what the Scots thought: RBS was going to be the driver of the economy of an independent Scotland (just like the banking sector was in Iceland - hoho).

That turned out well, didn’t it?

RBS was saved by the British taxpayer with an amount that us mere mortals can barely comprehend.It’s now majority-owned by the British (not the Scottish) Govt.So I don’t see how Scottish independence can be supported by the Scottish banking sector when that has to be supported by the British taxpayer.

Scotland can no more be independent of Britain than the average student at university is independent of his/her parents. Metaphorically-speaking, it may be able to cook its own meals but Daddy will still be supplying the cash that buys the food.

See

heraldscotland.com/politics/ … t.19429791

And that’s a Scottish newspaper!

cieranc:

Happy Keith:
patrolled by Typhoons of the English Air Force

Unfortunately half of the English Air Force is in Scotland mate

Tell me more about this ENGLISH air force :neutral_face:

cieranc:

Happy Keith:
‘…the English Air Force…’

‘…Unfortunately half of the English Air Force is in Scotland mate…’

Eh? The only operational RAF stations in Scotland are Leuchars & Lossiemouth so how does that equate vs. Brize Norton, Benson, Odiham, Marham, Coningsby, Waddington et al

The English would flatten them - plus, all the training and thinking is done south of Gretna… :wink:

wish England would get out as well :wink:

Happy Keith:

cieranc:

Happy Keith:
‘…the English Air Force…’

‘…Unfortunately half of the English Air Force is in Scotland mate…’

Eh? The only operational RAF stations in Scotland are Leuchars & Lossiemouth so how does that equate vs. Brize Norton, Benson, Odiham, Marham, Coningsby, Waddington et al

The English would flatten them - plus, all the training and thinking is done south of Gretna… :wink:

Hawl anymore of your cheek and we’ll nuke you :grimacing:

Switzerland is protected from supposedly ever being invaded by convention. Scotland is not.

The moment Scotland became rich and independant, it would become a coveted asset in the eyes of Russia.
Canada might offer political support to Scotland to hold back Russia, but the USA would not. The USA won’t take a “protective interest” in Scotland unless Zionist interests get some clout there similar to what they hold in and over Switzerland. That’s probably not going to be forthcoming, so the same interest will be shown by the Americans as they showed in ‘protecting the Falklands’ when Argentina invaded.

Switzerland has always been a place strangely protected by supposedly every nation on Earth from ever being invaded (“The Convention”), but in the end it is just a militarily weak, geographically weaker landlocked nation no easier to defend than the former Yugoslavia. Add that to it being pretty much a moneybox for more international crooks than anyone can shake a stick at, and you begin to see just how much ‘international support’ Scotland would need to protect it simply from being annexed at the drop of a hat post-independance. :wink:

If Hitler had tried it on (annex Switzerland) in WWII, he would have brought the rest of the world’s monied nations into the war against Germany. One might ask the question “At what stage of WWII did everyone participating REFER to it as being ‘WWII’?”
America didn’t give a toss about what Hitler was doing in Europe until one of Hitler’s axis buddies brought them into “the war”

Of course, all those fears pretty much materialised anyway with the Allies against the Axis, so invading Switzerland would, with hindsight, had been a much better strategy for the Nazis than Operation Barbarossa which began Germany’s WWII decline. :unamused:
A secure eastern front (by honouring the German-Russian non-aggression pact instead of breaking it!) would have left Hitler free to finish off the rest of western Europe unhindered - including what would have been the ‘jewel in the crown’ of Switzerland with all it’s bank vaults brimming with worldy assets.

If the rest of the world has lost it’s collective shirts in Switzerland, then there’s not going to be much international crowd with any financial clout left to bleat on against the invader either. Money talks after all, and those that have cornered the Swiss Banking System can re-write the future in their own image, re-creating all the Swiss institutions in their own image as they see fit. “Those in possession get to make all the rules” you might say. No nukes will get fired, because it’s still ‘mutually assured destruction’ as it has always been. The rest of the world has the choice of living poorer, or not living at all. The Victor gets to cop the lot.

So who’ll be next to try? - Russia, China, or an as-yet unformed alliance of Mediterranean, Latino, or South Asian nations? :open_mouth:

Winseer:
Switzerland is protected from supposedly ever being invaded by convention. Scotland is not.

The moment Scotland became rich and independant, it would become a coveted asset in the eyes of Russia.
Canada might offer political support to Scotland to hold back Russia, but the USA would not. The USA won’t take a “protective interest” in Scotland unless Zionist interests get some clout there similar to what they hold in and over Switzerland. That’s probably not going to be forthcoming, so the same interest will be shown by the Americans as they showed in ‘protecting the Falklands’ when Argentina invaded.

Switzerland has always been a place strangely protected by supposedly every nation on Earth from ever being invaded (“The Convention”), but in the end it is just a militarily weak, geographically weaker landlocked nation no easier to defend than the former Yugoslavia. Add that to it being pretty much a moneybox for more international crooks than anyone can shake a stick at, and you begin to see just how much ‘international support’ Scotland would need to protect it simply from being annexed at the drop of a hat post-independance. :wink:

If Hitler had tried it on (annex Switzerland) in WWII, he would have brought the rest of the world’s monied nations into the war against Germany. One might ask the question “At what stage of WWII did everyone participating REFER to it as being ‘WWII’?”
America didn’t give a toss about what Hitler was doing in Europe until one of Hitler’s axis buddies brought them into “the war”

Of course, all those fears pretty much materialised anyway with the Allies against the Axis, so invading Switzerland would, with hindsight, had been a much better strategy for the Nazis than Operation Barbarossa which began Germany’s WWII decline. :unamused:
A secure eastern front (by honouring the German-Russian non-aggression pact instead of breaking it!) would have left Hitler free to finish off the rest of western Europe unhindered - including what would have been the ‘jewel in the crown’ of Switzerland with all it’s bank vaults brimming with worldy assets.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Guisan

Just like today it would have been a bit like trying to invade America.The general population have always been up for a fight if anyone wants to have a go and tanks were no good at climbing mountains. :smiling_imp: :laughing:

I believe that it’s a requirement in Swiss law that every home has at least one rifle.

…and then there’s the pen knives!

Scottish independence could be an ideal opportunity to reward those two Scottish Giants who led the UK so memorably,Jock Blair and Jock Brown,an ideal
opportunity to send to Scotland the 7 million immigrants these two Giants thought was an awfully good idea.bring it on.