The above two are, to my knowledge, Kässbohrer cabs of the 1950s. There are similarities to the Magirus/ German LV cab- the bumper trim and the headlamp surround panel. Other styling features are typical German of the period, but the shape of the door is closer to that of the Magirus than the Ackermann one. The grille of the rusty Merc has a similar “pinstripe” design to that on the Magirus.
The “German” LVs almost certainly had the same cab as the 1957-'63 Magirus. Was the cab built by Kässbohrer? Possibly, but it will need confirmation…
The Portugese Scania LV75 that was in Belgium recently, is already in Holland for a few months.
It will be restored, in a year or so. There are other projects that have to be finished first.
That is great news. Can we have a photographic record of the restoration, as it happens, please? Is it actually an LV75, or a Portuguese special? Are you familiar with any other LV75 restorations in progress? This is one I would like to see in the hands of a skilled sheet-metal worker:
A few extra cabs exiting the factory via the side door would not do anyone any harm.
I would still like to know if Kässbohrer was involved with the design/manufacture of those Magirus cabs. Some of our German colleagues must know. Meine Deutsch ist nicht so gut, so I am not the person to go throwing his weight around the German sites, asking my usual daft questions- best to leave the job to a more cunning linguist, I think!
A few extra cabs exiting the factory via the side door would not do anyone any harm.
I would still like to know if Kässbohrer was involved with the design/manufacture of those Magirus cabs. Some of our German colleagues must know. Meine Deutsch ist nicht so gut, so I am not the person to go throwing his weight around the German sites, asking my usual daft questions- best to leave the job to a more cunning linguist, I think!
No remarks were made in this Dutch (not Deutsch nor German) conam-article. Main subject was on the
history of the Dutch “Motorkracht”-importer and their outlets for service and sales. I don’t think that KHD
would risk an adventure in sneaky business with cabs leaving via the side doors, ever heard of warranty?
ERF-Continental:
No remarks were made in this Dutch (not Deutsch nor German) conam-article. Main subject was on the history of the Dutch “Motorkracht”-importer and their outlets for service and sales. I don’t think that KHD
would risk an adventure in sneaky business with cabs leaving via the side doors, ever heard of warranty?
The article states that Magirus vehicles were assembled in Hoogeveen. It would explain why German cabs were fitted onto Dutch (LV75) chassis- IE, the cabs were available locally. Magirus would be happy to sell the cabs, finished or as kits, to a coachbuilder, I would imagine. If the demand was there, why not? The business would not have to be “sneaky”.
The above article says that Hoogeveen NV actually built the cabs on the Magirus chassis that they were assembling. Hoogeveen NV’s relationship with Magirus mirrors Beers’ with Scania Vabis. The cabs look exactly the same as those on German forward control Magirus’- I wonder if Ulm used Hoogeveen-built cabs?
I did not imply that the Conam article was German. I was merely stating that a German-speaking contributor would be better-qualified to investigate the source of the cabs.
I guess the BeGe-cabbed one would be a V70? Either way, it seems to be involved in some sort of driving test.
The 1960 publication date proves that the Roset cab was available from the early stages. It would be nice to chart the introduction dates of the various cabs- at least the ones which were made in big numbers. So far, we have:
I wish I was better-informed. Fortunately, the journey is as much fun as the destination.
The BeGe one is interesting. According to the CM article I posted earlier on this page, those pre-LV75 vehicles were called V70, and the article says that they were unique to the Netherlands. However, SB-98-90 is almost identical, in detail, to the prototype shown in Lindh’s book:
It seems more likely that the vehicle was built in Sweden, for field trials of the forward-control chassis (If so, should we call it an LB75?) There is another clue on the headboard of the trailer. Here is another one, which appears to have a lower-mounted cab:
Thanks again JWK- I am fascinated by this little corner of automotive history.
I guess the Groenewegen chassis is a B71, given that a B75 would have 165bhp.
While the Burg Trailers tractor unit is definitely a V70, as described in the 1957 Amsterdam Show issue of Commercial Motor, I wonder about these BeGe-cabbed vehicles. Were they built by Beers or Scania-Vabis?
Just found this: nl-nl.facebook.com/oudevrachtwa … d?filter=3
It contains all sorts of old Dutch lorries, but the icing on the cake is this: nl-nl.facebook.com/oudevrachtwa … 2804973819
At 6:59, there is footage of what appears to be a coachbuilder’s workshop. What is that short-wheelbase chassis, next to the as-yet uncabbed L75? Can anyone identify the coachbuilder?