Scania Vabis LV type

I agree JWK, both Beers and more or less also Denonville had a clear vison on the truck-market
and good contacts with their prospects/customers. The difference between what manufacturers
want to make and what dealers want to sell, regardless the fact what is needed. In that way the
smart guys at Beers did invent/build the LV’s, nothing more nothing less. I can’t say I do know of
some LV’s in Belgium, but perhaps some slipped through…

Alex

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robert1952:

This has been on here before, but there is no harm in showing it again. God knows what it is. I have found these:

The cab is mounted too low to be an “ordinary” LV75, and it contains some LB76 parts, namely grille and wheelarches. The headlamp surround panels look like the work of Van Eck. The captions mention Portugal/Spain and call it an LBS75. If I had to guess, I would say it was an LBS76 with a locally-built Portuguese cab. We may find out what it is, as it appears to be in preservation.

[zb]
anorak:

robert1952:

This has been on here before, but there is no harm in showing it again. God knows what it is. I have found these:

The cab is mounted too low to be an “ordinary” LV75, and it contains some LB76 parts, namely grille and wheelarches. The headlamp surround panels look like the work of Van Eck. The captions mention Portugal/Spain and call it an LBS75. If I had to guess, I would say it was an LBS76 with a locally-built Portuguese cab. We may find out what it is, as it appears to be in preservation.

There is some resemblance to the local Portuguese cab. Here is a photo of a local Atkinson I took in Lisbon docks in Apr '86. Below it is a similar one I found online. Robert

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[zb]
anorak:

robert1952:
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This has been on here before, but there is no harm in showing it again. God knows what it is. I have found these:
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The cab is mounted too low to be an “ordinary” LV75, and it contains some LB76 parts, namely grille and wheelarches. The headlamp surround panels look like the work of Van Eck. The captions mention Portugal/Spain and call it an LBS75. If I had to guess, I would say it was an LBS76 with a locally-built Portuguese cab. We may find out what it is, as it appears to be in preservation.

Hey all, its a Portugees one and stayed and maybe still for sell in Mechelen (Muizen).
For me it’s a 75 with a later LB 76 grille or a 76, or as other which were sold new in Portugal as CKD or without cab for import taxes .
Look the British marques with Portugees cabs, Volvo, look at their cabs, even an F88 cab on a F86, but all with some differences to the originals.
We had for a while work from Volvo Sweden to Portugal.

Eric,

Excellent response, Eric. So the lorry is in Belgium, having been imported from its original home in Portugal. I hope it gets restored- these rarities will provide pleasure for generations of vehicle nuts.

[zb]
anorak:
Excellent response, Eric. So the lorry is in Belgium, having been imported from its original home in Portugal. I hope it gets restored- these rarities will provide pleasure for generations of vehicle nuts.

Here-here! Eric to the rescue once again: proost! Robert :smiley:

Hey Swedish LV.

Eric,

Another “new” vehicle- great! I am not sure that it is a “normal” LV though- the front panel seems to be fixed and the radiator filler is external, indicating that the radiator does not swing out. Also the steering wheel looks black, meaning that the chassis is L71, if it is a Scania Vabis, ■■■■ he axles do not even look like S-V items to me. Is it a Volvo 495? People with an eye for a hub (!) will have a better idea. I do not recognise the badge- can anyone identify it?

it is a volvo

Who built the cab? It does not look like BeGe or Nyström to me. Does anyone have a copy of this? :laughing:
adlibris.com/se/bok/swedish- … 9170921506

look around in Veteranlasbilar.se some of the history categories ,i,ll thin you find something

ASJ is the cab builder. They also made buses and tankers:

flickr.com/photos/46535856@N08/5904767241/
s676.photobucket.com/user/s025bb … m.jpg.html
sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svenska_J% … C3%A4derna
imcdb.org/vehicle_424156-ASJ.html
farm3.static.flickr.com/2582/420 … aeb752.jpg

The film buffs on the IMDB site are bloody good researchers.

Scania-Vabis LV’s from Beroepsvervoer 1961. Sorry for the low quality.


LVS-7530-AKt, owned by Euser of Zwijndrecht. Cab by De Graaff.


Cabs by German coachbuilder.


LVS-7534-AEK, owned by Goedkoop en de Geus of Barendrecht.


LV 75, owned by Van Spronsen of Monster.


LV 75, owned by West-Friesland.

Regards,

JWK

JWK:
Scania-Vabis LV’s from Beroepsvervoer 1961. Sorry for the low quality.

Regards,

JWK

Hey JWK, at '61 which total weight had you already ■■? 50ton on 6 axles■■?

Eric,

Wonderful stuff, JWK. :smiley:

  1. I typed the text of the first Beers advert into Google Translate. It said this:

“The present Scania Vabis control trucks to a lot greater achievements in state. The pictured 18 ton combination is one of 11 Scania that the firm has Leen van Staalduinen, Maasdijk, called shaft since 1952.
Milk is transported back to the Riviera and to Spange Poultry to Germany. Pickles and lettuce to austria. Fruit and vegetables to Sweden. Freezer to Denmark. Scheepspeoviand to Naples. And hanging meat to France.
To date, more than 750 000 km it traveled and still completely reliable for future foreign tours.”

I wish I could speak Dutch.


I think that lorry is based on an L71 or B71 chassis.

  1. I wonder if the German coachbuilder is Ackermann? Those cabs are the same as this:

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…and they look similar to this:

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…which, according to this: veteranlastbilar.se/phpBB3/v … 5#p24882…. is an Ackermann conversion of a 1960 B75 bus chassis.

  1. Roset cabs were prevalent by 1961.

Nice coincidence that picture with a German cabbed Scania Vabis carrying Volkswagen Beetles!

The history repeats and proves!!!

The merge from Scania, MAN, Volkswagen and all other blood-participants would/could enable the perfect truck?

The German cab looks more like a Magirus one ?

michel:
The German cab looks more like a Magirus one ?

You have a brilliant eye for detail, sir. Magnifique!


The cabs are so similar as to remove any doubt, IMO. It is not clear from the photograph, but the grille of the middle Magirus has the same “pinstripe” design as the two LVs. How do I know this? There is a clearer picture of a similar lorry in Pat Kennett’s book, World Trucks- Magirus.

Between yourself and JWK, another of the little mysteries of the LV is solved, except- why would Magirus supply cabs to fit to another manufacturer’s chassis? They would rather build the customer a complete vehicle, one would assume. Maybe the cabs were built by an outside coachbuilder, and Magirus did not have exclusive rights to them? There is no mention in Mr. Kennett’s book of Magirus using an outside supplier to source these cabs, although those books do not give all of the information. Some research into Magirus’ arrangements for the supply of frontlenker cabs around 1960 is called for.

PS JWK- Is there any more to come from Beroepsvervoer? :smiley: