everything is in place ready but the most important bit the work nearly every worthwhile lead that i had has gone a normal year i would of been running starting up is a big gamble its all no dont i wouldnt and so on and i ve got a decent paying job but even we are quite if i can get a yes we will work you i am there but its getting the nod how are you guys going on
im ok on produce with an old lorry W reg scania but i reckon its hard for the normal general haulage lads, if you got a decent job i wouldnt bother,
chappy261:
both, equipment and fitting?
Ball park figure £2300.00 including ali tank
it depends how long its going to be decent job for loosing overtime left right and centre at the mo so still digging got a few leads though just letting things get going after x mas before i starting bugging people again nowt wrong with a w reg scania so long as it keeps going
hello renaultman hows things you still winning
renaultman:
chappy261:
both, equipment and fitting?Ball park figure £2300.00 including ali tank
At that price if you’re only spending a relatively small amount on a unit anyway I suppose you might as well take a risk on a unit with it already fitted as it’s a lot of money to spend on an old unit which might still turn out to be an old nail.
Paul
how about staying away from scanias and getting a volvo?
search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/ww … word=VOLVO
what is it with volvos seen some quite tidy ones there supposed to be a strong truck but they dont seem to hold there money to good as they get on is there any bad points with them
i still got a DAF XF SSC for sale 
as good a price as some of them volvos listed above 
and planty more room inside the cab
Lee, i may be a bit biased here, but in 12 years 2nd time around as an owner driver i’m onto my third Daf. Yes i’d be lying if i said they’re the best thing ever on the road, but on the whole i’ve found they’ve ticked more good boxes than bad. I do all my own routine servicing & most repair jobs i’ve never had trouble getting the parts i want when i want even being delivered for free to myself from my local Daf dealer. I’ve also had on a few occassions had to call on the daf aid breakdown service & again have always found them to be prompt. Whilst a V8 Scania sounds & is nice i think you’ll struggle to find a decent 143 that wont break your bank account in keeping it on the road. The market as a whole is struggling, as you’ve noticed with ur own company, remember a subbie is only there to take up the slack in the system & that rope is being pulled extremley tight at the mo, if u still feel like going ahead i’d say go & have a look at Shuttlespankers superspace cab, modern truck reasonably priced could be a good start.
dafs bad on heads!! bad on discs " bolts snapping in hub" just what you need on a sat dinner time that is,
daf cab good, good on fuel, but i dont like em myself just like shuttle dont like scanias
i think you have 99% set your mind on a good 143,if you find a good one that is, scanias are ok but EXPESIVE to maintain,
if you do get a V8 one word of advise!! change the big ends and shells, for around £200 and half a mornings work !! as they do have a tendancy to spin the bearings over 700kms!!! and then it gets costly 
daz thats prbablyt rthebest advise hes had
weve had 3 dafs
and all three of them have had the heads done at the dealers and he wont be buying another his words due
appart from that they are good on fuel
my advise find a good 420 standard r cab or a standard fh 420 they will give you less headaches if theyve been serviced properly and wont cost as much as a v8 in running costs
i know a few of the ods at freightliner in trafford run older premiums these arent bad as a start up truck good size cab if your doing nights out not sure on parts prices and they not horrendus on fuel
For starting out looking for a decent used 6x2 for the tipping game you will not beat a “Renault choice” used 420DCI Premium from a Renault truck dealer.
If you get the rep on a bad day 14 grand should get a very clean 03/04 maybe even 05 ex-contract Premium that has drove up and down the M6 all its life.
One with the Opti-driver box fitted will mean the driveline has never been abused and approx 1800/2000 quid will fit brand tip gear to it.(spend another 750 quid on autolube too or get it chipped to 475hp for the same dough)
You will also get 24/7 breakdown service included and a comprehensive driveline warranty for 12 months,my second 12 months warranty would have cost me 1600 quid (thats 33 quid/week over 48 working weeks for two years peace of mind 
) if I had’nt sold up.
Although the diff did go on mine after a solid 11 months full weight quarry work (31T payload with a Kel-Berg T99 insulated trailer and steel wheels all round 
)
It was fixed by my independant commercial fitter and paid for via the Renault warranty without any quibbles.
nothing wrong with dafs driven a few 75 85 and 95s i like them shuttlespankers is a good en as he knows i aint going to mess him about i took some advice off a good friend of mine who was an owner driver and he recomended the 143 to me as they are basic and simple but you can get alot more modern truck for similar money and as you said it may be a headache keeping an older truck i am considering renting it looks a good idea dearer than buying but less hassle especially if you end up buying a lemon
Daz 585:
dafs bad on heads!! bad on discs " bolts snapping in hub" just what you need on a sat dinner time that is,
daf cab good, good on fuel, but i dont like em myself just like shuttle dont like scanias
i think you have 99% set your mind on a good 143,if you find a good one that is, scanias are ok but EXPESIVE to maintain,
if you do get a V8 one word of advise!! change the big ends and shells, for around £200 and half a mornings work !! as they do have a tendancy to spin the bearings over 700kms!!! and then it gets costly
The DAF i have for sale is on drum brakes, not disc, so no fear of “bolts snapping in hub”
it has also had the heads done approx 3 months ago
yes, fantastic cab, acres of space, very comfortable bunk, best on the market even a die hard scania driver will admit that
The MoT is due in Feb, but if someone comes along with the right money, i will put a full 12 months MoT on it
shuttlespanker:
Daz 585:
dafs bad on heads!! bad on discs " bolts snapping in hub" just what you need on a sat dinner time that is,
daf cab good, good on fuel, but i dont like em myself just like shuttle dont like scanias
i think you have 99% set your mind on a good 143,if you find a good one that is, scanias are ok but EXPESIVE to maintain,
if you do get a V8 one word of advise!! change the big ends and shells, for around £200 and half a mornings work !! as they do have a tendancy to spin the bearings over 700kms!!! and then it gets costlyThe DAF i have for sale is on drum brakes, not disc, so no fear of “bolts snapping in hub”
it has also had the heads done approx 3 months ago
yes, fantastic cab, acres of space, very comfortable bunk, best on the market
The MoT is due in Feb, but if someone comes along with the right money, i will put a full 12 months MoT on it
YEP ok,ok, shuttle you got me on that, aaaaaaagh
but as i have said in a few posts before, scania drive train, and electrics, and daf ssc cab or daf cab full stop! scania cabs are crap no room, stupid bottom bunk set up!! crap interior lighting!! decent mirrors and a sort of decent drive position but that depends as daft as it seems on the scania as some seem diffrent in seating etc to another one,
Was reading on here about the 41t 44t debate on springs and i drive an 07 plate 6x4 man tga on springs and that is plated for 44 tonnes.
Also for bulk tipping work id seriously look at the volvo fm especaly in tag axle form. they may not be the lightest truck out there but durabilaty alone would make the weight penalty less of a consideration and the tag axle is a much better set up than mid lift if you have to go off the tarmac
I have a 143 500, its a nice toy but not very practicull for modern 44 ton general haulage as its 41 tonner, i also have 4 fh12 globetrotters which are very good alround 44 tonners , good on fuel etc , but for a good cheap 44 tonner you cant beat a renault premium, i know a lot of people will not like them but get a low milage one and they are as cheap as chips, out of my little flleet it constantly, fiscallly out performs all the other trucks, easily, earn some money, save it get established then indulge yourself! good luck
shuttlespanker:
what sort of price are you looking at paying?i have just decided to sell one of my trucks, it’s a 2002/52 plate DAF XF SuperSpace Cab 6x2 44,000kg in red
genuine reason for wanting to sell it, i have seen another truck that i want, can’t say much about it at the minute, but i must sell this one first.
this year, it has had a new turbo, intercooler was removed and cleaned out at the same time, new clutch, new air dryer, new foot brake valve, new pressure limiting valve, various other new air valves fitted, new starter motor, new brush pack in the alternator, replaced the heater motor, just about to fit a new exhaust silencer, new batteries.
PM me if you are interested
If i was looking for a decent truck i would buy this DAF as it has had all the niggly problems sorted out and should give you peace of mind that a huge repair bill is not going to arrive in the first few month’s…when i was an o/d,i ran an N reg low cabbed daf 85(4 nights out per week)on brick and block work for 3 yrs and that can be tough on any truck and apart from routine servicing and inspections(every 6 weeks),the truck only cost me a radiator,exhaust,full brake reline and tyres…and i am proud to say that the truck never broke down once and was cheap to run and quite good on fuel…and never failed a VOSA inspection or annual test…
I like scania’s,especially the 3 series, but i dont think i would run one nowadays as they are getting a bit long in the tooth…problems will be only around the corner…especially on heavy tipper work…dont get me wrong,when they are ok they are a brilliant truck,but if they start to go wrong they can be expensive to fix…even small items.
In my opinion i would choose a truck that has already been mentioned,either a Daf XF or CF,Renault Premium DCI 420…both will do the job of the scania at a fraction of the running/parts costs = money in the bank,which is where it counts…
the daf looks a decent motor very tidy looking at the photos premiums are a bargain at the moment seen some 05 reg ones for cheap money but then again all secondhand truck prices seem to be falling by the day it realy is a buyers market getting a unit and trailer is not a problem its getting something to put in the trailer that is the work i was looking at doing has fallen on its knees had a ring round last week and it came to nothing got two ring back end of feb just going to hold back for the moment setting up on a maybe is to much of a gamble but then again i am getting itchy feet how are you lads going on