that sounds about right the 450s arent euro 2 but the 470/500hp are because they have e.d.c so can comply with euro 2 emissions seems to be very grey area with a mixed bag of answers. if i bought a 450 that was plated at 44t is it a case of vosa must be right they issused the plate it was done before i even bought it or could you be in trouble for this
i used to own a 143 450 centurion and the reason i got rid was pure;y because it wouldnt run at 44ton, and it had air suspension but as correctly stated above {and i checked with vosa seeing as how our yard is next door to their place} and it comes down to the euro rating and not the suspension btw it was without doubt the best truck i have ever owned/driven, the sound of those twin stacks used to nearly give me a trouser moment 
EDIT: the time when i checked was when the limits went up from 41 to 44 ton, and it wasnt that i bought the truck looking to run it at 44 ton then found i couldnt, if that makes any sense at all 
No EURO 2 No 44t. Ask a Scania fitter which were the bst, most will say the 143 450, an iconic motor that still manages to delight many to this day. Had i of had the chance to run one i would have.
thats why i am looking for one starting up on my own in february so just trying to find a half decent one get it here spend a bit of money on it get it up to scratch and i will have myself a work horse touch wood.
I look forward to seeing the photos
just watch for bad rusting behind the front bumper where the drivers side bottom steps fasten on, both of ours went in the same place and they were a cow of a job to strengthen and secure, happy hunting and make sure its got an eminox
dont forget the rusting on the corner pannels at the side of the grill
once you start chasing the rust you never stop its a bit of a gamble buying a truck this old its one thing looking at it where its for sale and another once you have bought it and start tinkering around with it i dont mind it looking rough and ready i can sort that out its the engine and driveline thats got to up to be up to scratch no moving no money
shuttlespanker:
AFAIK it is not the pump that designates the tonneage, it is the suspension.i used to own a couple of DAF 95XF’s with mechanical pumps and they were both plated at 44 tonne.
if a truck has steel suspension, it can only plate at 41 tonne
Wrong about the steel suspension. You can get what they call “road friendly” steel suspension and if you have it you can go up to 44 tonnes. Only ever seen it on ERF EC11’s but it does exist.
Carl
must nip down the road and tell the vosa man in the white coat he doesnt know what he,s talking about then shall i? dony know about erfs or whatever else, we are talking scanias, and fact is you cant “legally” run a 143 euro1 on steel springs at 44 ton and i dont care how road friendly your steel springs are 
Weren’t all the later 3 series on air from about K Reg ?
yes the later models are on air 4 x 2 and 6 x 2 the 6 x 2 had mid lift and tag shame the 450s wont go up to 44t just hope the 470/500hp ones do but then i bet finding one is no easy task
my j plate was on air but euro 1 so no 44 ton, your right about them being hard to find though, we looked for a 500 last year and gave up,found one in ireland but it had a bit of a dubious past so gave it a miss, toying with an f12 instead now but they are getting rare as well, theres just something about an old big engine truck that you have to drive yourself instead of whacking the cruise on and waking up when you get there
ye i no what you mean thats why i am trying to find hope its the right choice for starting off trying to keep it simple a simple big engine hit it with a hammer adjust it with a spanner technology and a straight forward no frills cab less to hopefully go wrong dont really no much about the f12 i like the look of them though
chaversdad:
must nip down the road and tell the vosa man in the white coat he doesnt know what he,s talking about then shall i? dony know about erfs or whatever else, we are talking scanias, and fact is you cant “legally” run a 143 euro1 on steel springs at 44 ton and i dont care how road friendly your steel springs are
Maybe you should then because it does exist. And I was saying it is on ERF’s and I didn’t know if it was on Scanias. And believe me it would not be the first time a VOSA man has talked a load of cobblers. I had one tell me just a couple of weeks ago that the small wheel midlifts on tractor units are only supposed to be fitted to dustcarts. Thats how clever they are!!
not knocking you mate but i,m just saying its common knowledge thats these particular trucks dont run at 44ton legally, i get what you mean about vosa, but i think out of 100 questions they would probably get 98ish right, anyway back on topic and lets hope lee finds himself a nice old girl
not trying to pull the wool over the wool over anyones eyes or play dumb just trying to get my facts right so no does it to me i will keep looking upto about the end of january . but i can see me having to look at a more modern motor something like a premium or an fh
lee it iS possible to uprate the 143 the later ones ie L,M,N P reg are capable of hitting euro 2 thought the egine will have to be screwed down for the plating test then open it up again afterwards the test. this information was from a man who KNOWS how to do this he said even an k reg would be capable just make sure its fully on air and not a bodge job converstion .
lee mat:
not trying to pull the wool over the wool over anyones eyes or play dumb just trying to get my facts right so no does it to me i will keep looking upto about the end of january . but i can see me having to look at a more modern motor something like a premium or an fh
how can you even think of a classic 143 scania and mention a premium in the same thread!!!
if i can find one i will buy one but if i cant get one and i am ready for starting what do i do turn round and say sorry cant help you got my trailer ready to roll but cant do it because i cant find a 143 i think it would be rather silly of me to do this so like i said when push comes to shove i may have to look at a more modern truck nothing wrong with a premium easy to drive comfortable reliable cheap to maintain jack of all trades master of none