Unterflur, that 141 of yours is stunning, you’re a lucky man 
Can I ask a couple of questions of those in the know?
On the 141 my Dad drove, the ignition switch was on the steering column, combined with a steering lock, the same as most cars. In the one I looked in the other day, the ignition switch was on the keyswitch on the centre, which on my Dad’s operated the lights. Do you know if this is a one-off, or were some Scania’s set up like this, and what was the reason for it?
Also, when you applied the parking brake, you got the usual hiss as they came on. About 15 seconds later though, there was a second hiss, sounding like a load of air being dumped. Can anybody tell me what was going on here - was it a 2-stage brake of some sort, or soemthing else happening?
Thanks
Gary
@newmercman: Thank you very much, but even a own truck is not able to make you happy.
But when you drive for youself, listen to the motor and enjoy that time it helps to forget the problems… 
Hello scaniason,
i’m not really in the history of scania but what i know is that there are different types of handbrakes.
The normal version with a tiny lever in the dashboard and the eu-conformed version with the huge handbrake valve on the motor tunnel like in my truck. Thats doesn’t look too good.
Here another picture of a 140, taken 2008 in Larissa/Greece.
Wim:
My L141:
hej wim very nice and familiar interior had one for 8 years inservice still on the yard ,in a sorry condision in moment,but that may give inspiration to do something,nice motor you have,regards benkku
GNR141V OWNED FROM NEW BY BOB STARKEY CANNOCK STAFFS.Still an owner driver to this day. He says its looks as good if not better now than it did new. cheers Mike.
strawman:
Mr MJM:
truckerash:
Few more of my pics to keep this thread at the top; Just where the V8 should be
FUT710V - Originally owned and operated by Danny Cronin. Looks like he’s pulling a Rentco trailer. He was a subbie for us in the very early days. Last heard working for ARR Craib
The 141 on the right GNR 141V is now restored in J & M Murdoch’s colours
Taken at Truckfest Scotland last year
Regards
Iain
This 141 stood in Thessaloniki for many years and i think even today.
I wish the Utility-Trailer (i think it was) runs behind my truck…
Took the photo in 2008.
bma.finland:
Wim:
My L141:
hej wim very nice and familiar interior had one for 8 years inservice still on the yard ,in a sorry condision in moment,but that may give inspiration to do something,nice motor you have,regards benkku
Looks like you would have to walk across the cab to change gear unless the “second” man changed gear when the driver gave the instruction !! Cheers benkku,Bewick.
Bewick:
bma.finland:
Wim:
My L141:
hej wim very nice and familiar interior had one for 8 years inservice still on the yard ,in a sorry condision in moment,but that may give inspiration to do something,nice motor you have,regards benkku
Looks like you would have to walk across the cab to change gear unless the “second” man changed gear when the driver gave the instruction !! Cheers benkku,Bewick.
hej dennis,no problems for me, have arms like a monkey,can even roll down the right side window from driverseat ,cheers benkku. by the way it was a god motor to drive,in every way,
scaniason:
Can I ask a couple of questions of those in the know?On the 141 my Dad drove, the ignition switch was on the steering column, combined with a steering lock, the same as most cars. In the one I looked in the other day, the ignition switch was on the keyswitch on the centre, which on my Dad’s operated the lights. Do you know if this is a one-off, or were some Scania’s set up like this, and what was the reason for it?
Also, when you applied the parking brake, you got the usual hiss as they came on. About 15 seconds later though, there was a second hiss, sounding like a load of air being dumped. Can anybody tell me what was going on here - was it a 2-stage brake of some sort, or soemthing else happening?
Thanks
Gary
Can’t help with the ignition key question, the only Scania 1 series I ever drove had the key/light switch thing, none of them had a V8 either 
The brakes question I can answer though, when you put the parking brake on, it applied all the brakes on the lorry, unit and trailer, after a delay all but the drive axle brakes would release, that’s your second hiss. I have no idea how, or why, they did this, but that’s what it was 
newmercman:
scaniason:
Can I ask a couple of questions of those in the know?On the 141 my Dad drove, the ignition switch was on the steering column, combined with a steering lock, the same as most cars. In the one I looked in the other day, the ignition switch was on the keyswitch on the centre, which on my Dad’s operated the lights. Do you know if this is a one-off, or were some Scania’s set up like this, and what was the reason for it?
Also, when you applied the parking brake, you got the usual hiss as they came on. About 15 seconds later though, there was a second hiss, sounding like a load of air being dumped. Can anybody tell me what was going on here - was it a 2-stage brake of some sort, or soemthing else happening?
Thanks
GaryCan’t help with the ignition key question, the only Scania 1 series I ever drove had the key/light switch thing, none of them had a V8 either
The brakes question I can answer though, when you put the parking brake on, it applied all the brakes on the lorry, unit and trailer, after a delay all but the drive axle brakes would release, that’s your second hiss. I have no idea how, or why, they did this, but that’s what it was
Re the ignition switches we had a few with both types I think it was a retro fit posibly for insurance requirements as the old Scania ignition keys were two a penny.
The brakes did operate as “newmercman” says but it only worked when we had 3 airlines and it operated on the blue airline.
Regards Pat
scaniason:
Can I ask a couple of questions of those in the know?On the 141 my Dad drove, the ignition switch was on the steering column, combined with a steering lock, the same as most cars. In the one I looked in the other day, the ignition switch was on the keyswitch on the centre, which on my Dad’s operated the lights. Do you know if this is a one-off, or were some Scania’s set up like this, and what was the reason for it?
Also, when you applied the parking brake, you got the usual hiss as they came on. About 15 seconds later though, there was a second hiss, sounding like a load of air being dumped. Can anybody tell me what was going on here - was it a 2-stage brake of some sort, or soemthing else happening?
Thanks
Gary
I had a 110 Scania that had the ignition key combined with a steering lock. Funny how you also bring up the question of the parking brakes in the same post as I wrote about a situation which included both the steering lock and the parking brakes. It’s on the ‘Simon International’ thread currently back on page 16 and halfway down page 3 of that thread…if you should want to read it.
Newmercman gives the answer to what happens with the parking brake.
Lovingly restored! 
Well done harry ! never cease to amaze me with your sills mate !
harry:
Lovingly restored!
I believe that it´s an original photo, the road was later paved with asphalt. Here´s a picture from google earth, almost in the same place as the original photo. It´s the highest point of the road over Sognefjellet approximately at 4700 feet over the sea, so it´s not fog you see in the background… it´s the clouds
/Stellan
Nive picture Stellan , i can never get google earth shots to print out on my pc, - what’s the secret ?
V.proud of my sills,Bill. 
Yes Harry, yours sarcasm is at least as good as your sills mate ! lmao!