commonrail:
ha ha the square steering wheel…dont forget, we wernt the only ones making [zb] cars in the 70s/80s…lancia,alfa,fiat,
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You tell me now that isn’t a picture of a plug hole!
Symbolism has been an important part of society since the dawn of time.
Language came about, so the peasants could communicate.
Those in power still hold more value in symbols and communicate and live their respective lives with a massive amount of symbolism.
I actually feel it was known, that the symbol was a plughole.
DrivingMissDaisy:
Somewhere in the Manc area next week a transport company is expecting trouble. I’ve been offered a weeks work there, B&B paid. Personally, you couldn’t pay me enough to scab even though I’m scrabbling about now. Any ideas who this company is?
Probably best dealt with by way of PMs, because rumours WILL be removed as per forum rules.
This prompted me to read the Forum Rules.
I understand the Forum’s dersire to avoid being a breeding ground for rumours
Nonetheless the Forum is a valuable platform for information which may affect members. I would be out of pocket and time if the agency sent me to Manchester, only to find that I had to decline the job because it involved harming the livelihood of fellow professionals. Accordingly, it would be nice if we could be advised of intelligence relevent to this situation.
DrivingMissDaisy:
Somewhere in the Manc area next week a transport company is expecting trouble. I’ve been offered a weeks work there, B&B paid. Personally, you couldn’t pay me enough to scab even though I’m scrabbling about now. Any ideas who this company is?
Probably best dealt with by way of PMs, because rumours WILL be removed as per forum rules.
This prompted me to read the Forum Rules.
I understand the Forum’s dersire to avoid being a breeding ground for rumours
Nonetheless the Forum is a valuable platform for information which may affect members. I would be out of pocket and time if the agency sent me to Manchester, only to find that I had to decline the job because it involved harming the livelihood of fellow professionals. Accordingly, it would be nice if we could be advised of intelligence relevent to this situation.
Hi Euro,
That’s a fair point… but the forum rules are quite specific, and for a very good reason.
There is a rule about rumours, which if untrue, could lead to legal action.
However, if somebody can find a link to a news report or a company website that gives the info, then that’s fine and the link can be published on TN.
On a personal note, my advice is that somebody being asked to carry out a day’s work for an agency has the opportunity to ask that agency anything they like about the proposed job. The person can then make their decision according to their conscience.
Imagine how a person might feel if they lost a day’s work because they’d taken notice of something written on a forum that then turned out to be a rumour.
Wheel Nut:
We really had no hope as a manufacturing country when our best brains and efforts banged their heads together to produce this;
Ok, Wheel nut, youve asked for it, I raise you my All agro
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Atleast they got one thing right, the colour suits the car.
There’s a Vanden Plas version (same colour) around Witney; I saw it parked behind a Ferrari one day,as I went to have a look the Ferraris owner started on about it. His face was a picture when I said I only came over to see if the Allegro had the weird steering wheel.
There’s an MG Maestro about here aswell, although I don’t think it talks anymore.
Wheel Nut:
We really had no hope as a manufacturing country when our best brains and efforts banged their heads together to produce this;
Ok, Wheel nut, youve asked for it, I raise you my All agro
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Atleast they got one thing right, the colour suits the car.
Yes but even the Americans didn’t want the All Agro. The Ambassador wedge was designed specifically for them. The Hindustan Ambassador had more panache
Granted the Buick powered Rover V8 was an important car for the export market and from Geoffs list of toys for boys is probably the best recognised. Rather than feeling sorry for myself in the 70/80’s I was driving all these cars on a regular basis.
My bosses wife had an immaculate 4.2 E Type, he had a Bentley. she swapped her E Type for an Aston Martin DBS while he got a pigeon catching Mercedes M130 SEL
As for a works van we had a couple of 3.0 CSL to smoke around in. These were produced as homologation specials for the European Touring Car Championship.
The CSL was probably my favourite as I remember going to Gateshead in it and we bought another one. On the way home we averaged something ridiculous like 87mph, the car behind me had a failed alternator so he was relying on my lights
They were great days but to be fair any recent decent £18k hatchback would show them a clean pair of heels.
Wheel Nut:
Yes but even the Americans didn’t want the All Agro. The Ambassador wedge was designed specifically for them. The Hindustan Ambassador had more panache
I believe they were re-badged Mk III Morris Oxfords?
Wheel Nut:
Yes but even the Americans didn’t want the All Agro. The Ambassador wedge was designed specifically for them. The Hindustan Ambassador had more panache
I believe they were re-badged Mk III Morris Oxfords?
They were but it wasn’t those we were trying to sell to the American market.
Wheel Nut:
We really had no hope as a manufacturing country when our best brains and efforts banged their heads together to produce this;
Ok, Wheel nut, youve asked for it, I raise you my All agro
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Atleast they got one thing right, the colour suits the car.
Yes but even the Americans didn’t want the All Agro. The Ambassador wedge was designed specifically for them. The Hindustan Ambassador had more panache
Granted the Buick powered Rover V8 was an important car for the export market and from Geoffs list of toys for boys is probably the best recognised. Rather than feeling sorry for myself in the 70/80’s I was driving all these cars on a regular basis.
My bosses wife had an immaculate 4.2 E Type, he had a Bentley. she swapped her E Type for an Aston Martin DBS while he got a pigeon catching Mercedes M130 SEL
As for a works van we had a couple of 3.0 CSL to smoke around in. These were produced as homologation specials for the European Touring Car Championship.
The CSL was probably my favourite as I remember going to Gateshead in it and we bought another one. On the way home we averaged something ridiculous like 87mph, the car behind me had a failed alternator so he was relying on my lights
They were great days but to be fair any recent decent £18k hatchback would show them a clean pair of heels.
I liked my old 3.0 SI too considering what was available at the time but the fact is I was only using that,because at that time,as a low paid council driver,I couldn’t afford to buy or run a decent V12 XJ which,as I’ve said,still takes a ‘bit’ more than an 18 k hatchback and a lot more than a 3.0 CSL to catch it.Although having said that the BM did cost more to buy than the Jag when they were both current and new.It’s just that the BM depreciated like a stone once their first buyer realised that they’d paid more for,what was effectively,an uprated Ford Zodiac,with front suspension and steering to match and with Triumph 2.5 type rear suspension,which as you say could now be caught by a cheap Mondeo etc with the drawback of 15 mpg fuel consumption when it was given some stick which it needed to be with only 200 lbs/ft of torque.That’s assuming you could find one that hasn’t rusted away.
the best bit of one was developed from some else,s engine
No it was actually a British engineer using his brains when he went on a mission to the states to find out what their customers wanted who saw that motor chucked to the side because it wasn’t big enough for those customers’ demands.Then realising that it was the domestic market which mattered more to Rover at that time,being that we were running an economy on Fordist lines at the time,he decided to bring the design home with him.The rest is history with a lot more happy customers who bought V8 Rovers than the front wheel drive Jap crap abortions that followed it.
well for my 2p’s worth have never crossed a picket line although after standing by as an agency driver when royal mail were striking and the rotas were changed to 3 or 4 day runs it was really nice of the lads to put in for overtime on their days off and cut agency shifts down!
still i know if i was still driving what i would do next time
so then yes it was some one else,s engine
run land rovers for years still have a 1958 series parked up waiting for a rebuild ,last latest was a 98 300tdi disco ,i do not have the spare time to run the older land rovers now
i have a 2004 tdi passat and dont touch it ,with 140k on the clock simples
Maybe.A bit like when British engineers told the yanks to put US made Merlins into the Mustang to sort out those German heaps that kept on shooting down their bombers.Sometimes the really clever bit is knowing what components to use not where they were originally designed.
Chas:
I’m not a socialist & I’m certainly NOT a communist, I don’t know what I am politically, but I heard something on my local radio station today that really made me think.
We have a cold spell coming in the next few weeks, how many old folk will die 'cos they cannot afford adequate heating?
How much are we spending to refurb Nottingham’s train station during the same period of time?
This thought was provoked by someone who most would pidgeon hole as a Tory !
Lot’s on this thread that annoyed me but I thought I would single this out.
Yes people will die in the cold snap - of course people would also die if it doesn’t get cold. A couple of months ago I got a nice £200 gift from the taxpayer to pay the extra cost of my heating bills. I wonder how many old people spent that on Stupid unwanted Christmas presents. How many of them went through their lives spending what they earned without a thought for the future. Sure there will be some who, through no fault of their own, are finding it hard to keep warm - but there will always be hard cases and no amount of taxpayer’s money thrown at the “problem” will stop them.
Refurbing a station at least is employing plenty of people who might otherwise have been on the dole.
Chas:
I’m not a socialist & I’m certainly NOT a communist, I don’t know what I am politically, but I heard something on my local radio station today that really made me think.
We have a cold spell coming in the next few weeks, how many old folk will die 'cos they cannot afford adequate heating?
How much are we spending to refurb Nottingham’s train station during the same period of time?
This thought was provoked by someone who most would pidgeon hole as a Tory !
Lot’s on this thread that annoyed me but I thought I would single this out.
Yes people will die in the cold snap - of course people would also die if it doesn’t get cold. A couple of months ago I got a nice £200 gift from the taxpayer to pay the extra cost of my heating bills. I wonder how many old people spent that on Stupid unwanted Christmas presents. How many of them went through their lives spending what they earned without a thought for the future. Sure there will be some who, through no fault of their own, are finding it hard to keep warm - but there will always be hard cases and no amount of taxpayer’s money thrown at the “problem” will stop them.
Refurbing a station at least is employing plenty of people who might otherwise have been on the dole.
If you take that to it’s logical conclusion it would mean loads of people unemployed because everyone would be doing the same thing saving their money to keep them in retirement instead of spending it.Which is a lot of the problem now.Everyone is scared to spend which means high unemployment and no one wants to pay sufficient wages to cover the costs of retirement ‘and’ consumer spending even where there are jobs and what money does get spent goes on imported goods so even the spending we do have doesn’t translate into higher employment and higher wages.I think your idea just contributes to the race to the bottom.
Santa:
Refurbing a station at least is employing plenty of people who might otherwise have been on the dole.
And apart from that, hopefully transforming a run-down dump into something worthy of the city.
Nottingham Midland station has been a sorry shambles for more years than I care to remember. The biggest disgrace, though not relevant to this thread, was that the magnificent Victoria station was bulldozed and a shopping centre built on the site without any regard to incorporating a new station and totally transforming the city.
Santa:
Lot’s on this thread that annoyed me but I thought I would single this out.
Yes people will die in the cold snap - of course people would also die if it doesn’t get cold. A couple of months ago I got a nice £200 gift from the taxpayer to pay the extra cost of my heating bills. I wonder how many old people spent that on Stupid unwanted Christmas presents. How many of them went through their lives spending what they earned without a thought for the future. Sure there will be some who, through no fault of their own, are finding it hard to keep warm - but there will always be hard cases and no amount of taxpayer’s money thrown at the “problem” will stop them.
Refurbing a station at least is employing plenty of people who might otherwise have been on the dole.
We sometimes need to have a fresh look at exactly what our priorities are. Nottingham Midland desperately needs a refurb & lots of retired old folk can’t afford to heat their living space.
I do hope that you’re not insinuating that it’s OK that we sacrifice the elderly, the weak & the feeble in the name of progress !
One of my pet hates is the way subsidising public transport is ‘sold’ to the tax payer. They start to give you numbers that to me just don’t make sense.
You will all have heard something similar to : 1 million people use this station every year, we will spend £100million upgrading &refurbishing.
Your maths instantly works that out at £100 per passenger, a small price to pay. But is it as simple as all that?
How many of that 1 million are regular passengers using the station 2x a day to commute?
If we assume that every passenger is a commuter, then that figure of 1 million passengers could become 100 000 actual individual people, each of whom the tax payer has just spent £1000 on.
Is it OK to spend £1000 on a commuter, but not on a pensioner that can’t afford to heat their living space?
Carryfast:
If you take that to it’s logical conclusion it would mean loads of people unemployed because everyone would be doing the same thing saving their money to keep them in retirement instead of spending it.Which is a lot of the problem now.Everyone is scared to spend which means high unemployment and no one wants to pay sufficient wages to cover the costs of retirement ‘and’ consumer spending even where there are jobs and what money does get spent goes on imported goods so even the spending we do have doesn’t translate into higher employment and higher wages.I think your idea just contributes to the race to the bottom.
It is known the world over, independant economists are screaming it from the rooftops, history has proven this theory right.
The only way out of a recession is to increase public spending.
I believe we are in this recession because someone, some ‘thing’ wants us to be in one. We can easily get into the realms of weirdness & conspiracies, but I truly believe that we are exactly where ‘they’ want us to be at this point in time.
