Scabs needed next week in Manchester area

[att]

Chas:

Carryfast:
If you take that to it’s logical conclusion it would mean loads of people unemployed because everyone would be doing the same thing saving their money to keep them in retirement instead of spending it.Which is a lot of the problem now.Everyone is scared to spend which means high unemployment and no one wants to pay sufficient wages to cover the costs of retirement ‘and’ consumer spending even where there are jobs and what money does get spent goes on imported goods so even the spending we do have doesn’t translate into higher employment and higher wages.I think your idea just contributes to the race to the bottom.

It is known the world over, independant economists are screaming it from the rooftops, history has proven this theory right.

The only way out of a recession is to increase public spending.

I believe we are in this recession because someone, some ‘thing’ wants us to be in one. We can easily get into the realms of weirdness & conspiracies, but I truly believe that we are exactly where ‘they’ want us to be at this point in time.

You are totally correct.
If you keep an ear to the news, the word “war” is being used a lot…The more you say/use a word, the more acceptable it becomes…Not just the word, but all it means, language is a powerful thing and must never be underestimated!
They are desperately trying to keep us in the EU, despite the populace wanting a referendum…UKIP is very high in the polls and this has the ‘traditional’ parties extremely worried

Weigh it all up, be logical, be professional…Would you, as an individual, a business or a country even, want to be associated with a regime as corrupt as the European Parliament?

Very interesting times ahead…And I do wish they would seperate out the words social and politics, they seem to have merged into one at the moment!

[chas]

att:
You are totally correct.
If you keep an ear to the news, the word “war” is being used a lot…The more you say/use a word, the more acceptable it becomes…Not just the word, but all it means, language is a powerful thing and must never be underestimated!
They are desperately trying to keep us in the EU, despite the populace wanting a referendum…UKIP is very high in the polls and this has the ‘traditional’ parties extremely worried

Weigh it all up, be logical, be professional…Would you, as an individual, a business or a country even, want to be associated with a regime as corrupt as the European Parliament?

Very interesting times ahead…And I do wish they would seperate out the words social and politics, they seem to have merged into one at the moment!

I don’t pretend that I know everything about everything, but I do pretend to know a little about a lot of things. Somethings, I know a LOT about, but politics isn’t one of them

I have a theory about £money & how it is just a number on a piece of paper, that’s all it is . . . really, it’s just a number on a piece of paper !

Everyday, I go to work in attempt to make my world a better place, my labour should always be improving my lot. I should always be enjoying a slightly better place for every hour that I toil.

What is it that comes along & writes off the fruits of my labour? Why can’t I see it snatching away what was hard won? How can I possibly work hard tommorrow & be worse off the day after? Where has my work gone?

My Grandad was an expert in coal, 50 years (war duty excluded) down the black hole. He told me that “coal costs nothing, so why is it so expensive?”

I don’t fully understand his question so I can’t fully form an answer. But lay me down & poke me with a sharp stick, I fully understand that coal should be cheap, 'cos it’s free.

[alamcculloch]

Coal should be a lot cheaper,we should only be paying the costs of extraction and distribution.Now that we have those useless wind turbines all over the country electricity prices should be coming down ,though guess what energy prices are rising.Would haulage rates come down if there was a free power source other than diesel?

[big_joe]

Carryfast:
By the way I’ve still got one of those BL built cars.It would take something like an E39 M5 to catch it ‘if’ you can find someone to disable it’s speed limiter.

I dunno about ‘‘Carryfast’’ as a name, more like ‘‘Carryondreaming’’ as you really do type some crap. Nothing BL ever built in standard form would even reach 155 mph, never mind need a speed limiter. Even the much vaunted and hyped up V12 XJS launched in the seventies that Motor Magazine managed to briefly wind up to 150 mph was later found to be have been ‘‘breathed upon’’. Tests of later models put the top speed at a more conservative 140 mph, and continous running for more than 15 minutes on autobahns at those speeds sent the temperature guage reaching for the sky

[carryfast]

Big Joe:

Carryfast:
By the way I’ve still got one of those BL built cars.It would take something like an E39 M5 to catch it ‘if’ you can find someone to disable it’s speed limiter.

I dunno about ‘‘Carryfast’’ as a name, more like ‘‘Carryondreaming’’ as you really do type some crap. Nothing BL ever built in standard form would even reach 155 mph, never mind need a speed limiter. Even the much vaunted and hyped up V12 XJS launched in the seventies that Motor Magazine managed to briefly wind up to 150 mph was later found to be have been ‘‘breathed upon’’. Tests of later models put the top speed at a more conservative 140 mph, and continous running for more than 15 minutes on autobahns at those speeds sent the temperature guage reaching for the sky

Dreaming no not exactly.No one ever said that the world is always fair and the things couldn’t/can’t be ‘altered’ to suit customer preference just like those BM customers often did with cars such as the E3 Alpina and then the M5 etc.
The difference is that after all that,as I’ve said,it’s still basically an old 1970’s BL design,that will sort out an E39 M5 let alone an E28 M5 or E3 3.0 Alpina.By the way it’s the E39 M5 that would need it’s speed limiter disabled to catch it not the Jag which never had one.

By the way I think the 6.0 Litre XJRS will run at more than 140 mph for more than 15 minutes.Which is a good starting point for a ‘few extra’ modifications like a 5 speed manual box amongst a ‘few’ others.

[kr79]

All well and good going on about jags and triumphs that were so good in the 70s you could afford a newish one as a lorry driver f you lived at home with your mum. You had a wife and kids to support you could only probaly run to a Morris marina

[bazza123]

Carryfast, two of those links you posted were of German cars. Whilst there were some iconic cars around that were made in this country, most were very poorly made. When you consider some of the car’s from the 80’s - there are still a few early VW Polo’s, BMW’s and Jap cars around but where are all the early Sierra’s? Scrapped. Cortina’s? Scrapped. Vauxhall Chevette? Scrapped. Capri’s are getting rarer and rarer.

Ok there are a few of these cars on ebay for £6k but thats because they were so poorly made there aren’t many around and they cost a fortune to restore to anything like good condition.

Things are different today and athough we aren’t exporting much, we are manufacturing some incredible things, especially for ourselves. Type 45 destroyer anyone? Rolls Royce gas turbine? Nissan Leaf?

[carryfast]

kr79:
All well and good going on about jags and triumphs that were so good in the 70s you could afford a newish one as a lorry driver f you lived at home with your mum. You had a wife and kids to support you could only probaly run to a Morris marina

As I’ve said before trust me the things were as cheap as chips seconhand in the day.Although having said that after 1973 prices,which included the cost of running them,started to outrun wages which is what all the strikes were about and it’s why lots of people then had the choice between a crap Austin Morris product or a Jap import.However the relevant bit is that Jags,Rovers,and Triumphs were a lot better value for money new or used than their rival imports were while also keeping British workers in a job which meant a stronger economy.Unlike the situation we’ve had since Thatcher got in.

While it’s no surprise that Thatcher’s supporters then used the example of those cheap zb Austin Morris products to tar the whole of the British car industry with when it was just a case that they were being built down to a price.Which included the wages of the workers who built them.

The difference between then and now was those workers’ solidarity in standing against that situation.Which no surprise Thatcher then wiped out amongst the British workforce by using bs anti union indoctrination and closing down British industry in favour of imports during her time in office and the rest is history.

[kr79]

Big cars are cheap today buy a big merc jag BMW etc for not a lot once they get to about six years old. Just if you ain’t a petrol head you probaly not intrested in running a big engined car.

[carryfast]

bazza123:
Carryfast, two of those links you posted were of German cars. Whilst there were some iconic cars around that were made in this country, most were very poorly made. When you consider some of the car’s from the 80’s - there are still a few early VW Polo’s, BMW’s and Jap cars around but where are all the early Sierra’s? Scrapped. Cortina’s? Scrapped. Vauxhall Chevette? Scrapped. Capri’s are getting rarer and rarer.

Ok there are a few of these cars on ebay for £6k but thats because they were so poorly made there aren’t many around and they cost a fortune to restore to anything like good condition.

Things are different today and athough we aren’t exporting much, we are manufacturing some incredible things, especially for ourselves. Type 45 destroyer anyone? Rolls Royce gas turbine? Nissan Leaf?

I posted those links to German cars to show the type of value for money offered by the British products against their German competition.The fact is German workers were being paid more money to build inferior products.As for a few early German cars around I don’t think that the survival of those German rivals was any better than even their Ford counterparts of the time.While,as I’ve said,the Germans were flogging what was effectively a 3.0 Litre car with 1950’s Ford Zodiac type front suspension and steering and 1960’s Triumph type rear suspension for (a lot) more than 1970’s V12 Jaguar money.

[carryfast]

kr79:
Big cars are cheap today buy a big merc jag BMW etc for not a lot once they get to about six years old. Just if you ain’t a petrol head you probaly not intrested in running a big engined car.

I don’t think that BMW’s fortunes to date were built on the type of customer who was looking for a front wheel drive Austin Morris product.Take out the E3,5 series,and 7 series and they wouldn’t have survived past the early 1980’s.

[bazza123]

Well i’m affraid I don’t agree that the Germans were making inferior products. I kow that meant less work for British workers but there you are. My dad ran a B11 Nissan Sunny until it was 16 years old but he had to scrap it in the end as it was getting very rusty. How much oil was it burning at the end? None. My first car was a piston slapping Mk2 Fiesta and although I loved her she sounded like a mobile sewing machine. Ive owned 10 cars, a mixture and out of all of them the Jap ones have outshone the European/American cars.

Back on topic, the decision to cross a picket line depends on the circumstances. If you all risk redundancy, going on strike (and therefore not crossing) may be a sensible thing to do. If it’s a strike because a bloke’s being binned for banging the gaffers wife for instance ( ) - in other words a protest strike, it sort of depends on wether you can gurantee that you’ll keep your job and put bread on the table next week.

IMHO, it depends

[kr79]

Carryfast:

kr79:
Big cars are cheap today buy a big merc jag BMW etc for not a lot once they get to about six years old. Just if you ain’t a petrol head you probaly not intrested in running a big engined car.

I don’t think that BMW’s fortunes to date were built on the type of customer who was looking for a front wheel drive Austin Morris product.Take out the E3,5 series,and 7 series and they wouldn’t have survived past the early 1980’s.

Yeah but how many Germans were pottering about in air cooled vws and then golfs etc compared to 7 series bmws

[switchlogic]

Gembo:

Wheel Nut:
We really had no hope as a manufacturing country when our best brains and efforts banged their heads together to produce this;

Ok, Wheel nut, youve asked for it, I raise you my All agro
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Atleast they got one thing right, the colour suits the car.

My golly she’s a shapely rear end

[switchlogic]

Carryfast:
.Take out the E3,5 series,and 7 series and they wouldn’t have survived past the early 1980’s.

Carryfasts formidable business brain strikes again

[kr79]

The Morris ital now that was a quality vehicle.

[peterm]

Wot woz the question ?

[switchlogic]

peterm:
Wot woz the question ?

I’m sure Carryfast can remind us, he probably out in his V12 ■■■■■ wagon looking for teenagers at the moment

[cliffton_27]

peterm:
Wot woz the question ?

in a nutshell a firm needs drivers in mcr due to possible stirke thatcher was a ■■■■■ british cars were a ■■■■■ the whole 70s n 80s were a ■■■■■ o n carryfast has a car as fast as a f1 fighter jet

[cliffton_27]

switchlogic:

peterm:
Wot woz the question ?

I’m sure Carryfast can remind us, he probably out in his V12 ■■■■■ wagon looking for teenagers at the moment