Saviem's fan club (Part 1)

Lorries and drivers

Fergie47:
Brexit…just keeps on giving…effects anyone from a third country, i.e the UK…including our children, grandchildren, family and our friends staying with us…no one saw this coming eh …

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This is a translation of the first 2 parts, there are several more sections to be translated

A foreigner, who wishes to come to France for a tourist stay of less than 3 months, must present proof of accommodation. This document, called the reception certificate, is drawn up by the person who will welcome them at their home during their stay in France. The request is made at the town hall. The certificate is issued if the host meets certain conditions. In case of refusal, appeals are possible.

Part 2

The reception certificate is a form completed and signed by a person who undertakes to accommodate a foreigner at his home during his stay in France.

It must be validated by the town hall before the visa application (or before travel in case of visa waiver).

The reception certificate is issued if the host meets certain conditions. It must be sent abroad before its departure.

It indicates in particular the following elements:

Identity of the signatory
Passport number, identity and nationality of the foreigner hosted (and those of his spouse and minor children if they are accompanying him)
Planned reception area and accommodation characteristics
Identity of the person who takes out insurance covering (up to a minimum of € 30,000) the expenses for any care received during the stay in France
It must be validated by the town hall before the visa application (or before travel in case of visa waiver).

It must then be sent abroad before its departure. The original can be checked by the police authorities in the context of transits.

Hi Dave,
What a load of ■■■■■■■■, are they trying to snuff out tourism?
Proof of accommodation, do they think we are going to sleep rough? Just as we thought it was getting better then this load of tosh appears!

Down the graveyard

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pete smith:
what a load of ■■■■■■■■, are they trying to snuff out tourism?
Proof of accommodation, do they think we are going to sleep rough? Just as we thought it was getting better then this load of tosh appears!

Hi Pierre…

Not a huge effect on tourism I’d guess, if you’re staying in a Hotel, B&B, camping, touring around in a caravan/ campervan, then it’s not a problem, it’s if you’re staying with family or friends…
Looks like the British government “Over looked” this in the Trade and cooperation agreement …
If you translate the rest of the document it’s even more of a nightmare…

Fergie47:

pete smith:
what a load of ■■■■■■■■, are they trying to snuff out tourism?
Proof of accommodation, do they think we are going to sleep rough? Just as we thought it was getting better then this load of tosh appears!

Hi Pierre…

Not a huge effect on tourism I’d guess, if you’re staying in a Hotel, B&B, camping, touring around in a caravan/ campervan, then it’s not a problem, it’s if you’re staying with family or friends…
Looks like the British government “Over looked” this in the Trade and cooperation agreement …
If you translate the rest of the document it’s even more of a nightmare…

My VW Transporter looks like a campervan so that will do!

pete smith:

Fergie47:

pete smith:
what a load of ■■■■■■■■, are they trying to snuff out tourism?
Proof of accommodation, do they think we are going to sleep rough? Just as we thought it was getting better then this load of tosh appears!

Hi Pierre…

Not a huge effect on tourism I’d guess, if you’re staying in a Hotel, B&B, camping, touring around in a caravan/ campervan, then it’s not a problem, it’s if you’re staying with family or friends…
Looks like the British government “Over looked” this in the Trade and cooperation agreement …
If you translate the rest of the document it’s even more of a nightmare…

My VW Transporter looks like a campervan so that will do!

And you happen to breakdown outside our house, and you force me take you in you in until it gets fixed…yep, sounds like a plan mate… :laughing:

thelocal.fr/20210512/reader … of-brexit/

This might help. Especially at the bottom of the page.

OwenMoney:
https://www.thelocal.fr/20210512/reader-question-do-i-really-have-to-register-british-visitors-with-the-town-hall-because-of-brexit/

This might help. Especially at the bottom of the page.

Thanks for that OwenMoney, really going to have to check it all out…summers coming and people want to stay, need to get it right as a mistake could be costly for everyone…

Fergie47:

pete smith:

Fergie47:

pete smith:
what a load of ■■■■■■■■, are they trying to snuff out tourism?
Proof of accommodation, do they think we are going to sleep rough? Just as we thought it was getting better then this load of tosh appears!

Hi Pierre…

Not a huge effect on tourism I’d guess, if you’re staying in a Hotel, B&B, camping, touring around in a caravan/ campervan, then it’s not a problem, it’s if you’re staying with family or friends…
Looks like the British government “Over looked” this in the Trade and cooperation agreement …
If you translate the rest of the document it’s even more of a nightmare…

My VW Transporter looks like a campervan so that will do!

And you happen to breakdown outside our house, and you force me take you in you in until it gets fixed…yep, sounds like a plan mate… :laughing:

Yes Dave, I like you train of thought there and we can always say we are waiting for the VW specialist from Amsterdam to arrive with his young Female assistant to fix the vehicle, should all be fixed in 7 days!!

Fergie47:

OwenMoney:
https://www.thelocal.fr/20210512/reader-question-do-i-really-have-to-register-british-visitors-with-the-town-hall-because-of-brexit/

This might help. Especially at the bottom of the page.

Thanks for that OwenMoney, really going to have to check it all out…summers coming and people want to stay, need to get it right as a mistake could be costly for everyone…

Sounds like it is Macron having another toddler tantrum Dave , the spite and vindictive backlash from the EU is a bad reflection on their character . At least our lot (for better or worst) don’t cut off their nose to spite their face . Macron would destroy France to satisfy his huge ego .

My VW Transporter looks like a campervan so that will do!
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And you happen to breakdown outside our house, and you force me take you in you in until it gets fixed…yep, sounds like a plan mate… :laughing:
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Yes Dave, I like you train of thought there and we can always say we are waiting for the VW specialist from Amsterdam to arrive with his young Female assistant to fix the vehicle, should all be fixed in 7 days!!
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I can even provide you with a set of frilly curtains and furry clogs Pete, to complete the “camping look”… :laughing:

pv83:
My VW Transporter looks like a campervan so that will do!

And you happen to breakdown outside our house, and you force me take you in you in until it gets fixed…yep, sounds like a plan mate… :laughing:
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Yes Dave, I like you train of thought there and we can always say we are waiting for the VW specialist from Amsterdam to arrive with his young Female assistant to fix the vehicle, should all be fixed in 7 days!!
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I can even provide you with a set of frilly curtains and furry clogs Pete, to complete the “camping look”… :laughing:
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Hi Patrick,
I bet you could along with other paraphernalia straight outa the 'Dam!

Just saw this in a classic motoring magazine, apparently these two Kaelble units were in a field in Persan (95), not sure if they’re still there though, but does anyone recognise them? Can’t imagine that there were a lot of French operators using Kaelble lorries…?

The livery does sort of look like the one De Rijke is using, and they’ve got a French depot too since '82, but they’ve only had Scania’s and DAF’s in the fleet far as I can tell.

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pete smith:

pv83:
My VW Transporter looks like a campervan so that will do!

And you happen to breakdown outside our house, and you force me take you in you in until it gets fixed…yep, sounds like a plan mate… :laughing:

Yes Dave, I like you train of thought there and we can always say we are waiting for the VW specialist from Amsterdam to arrive with his young Female assistant to fix the vehicle, should all be fixed in 7 days!!
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I can even provide you with a set of frilly curtains and furry clogs Pete, to complete the “camping look”… :laughing:
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Hi Patrick,
I bet you could along with other paraphernalia straight outa the 'Dam!
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Alright, alright… I’ll throw in some stroopwafels too… :wink:

pv83:

pete smith:

pv83:
My VW Transporter looks like a campervan so that will do!

And you happen to breakdown outside our house, and you force me take you in you in until it gets fixed…yep, sounds like a plan mate… :laughing:

Yes Dave, I like you train of thought there and we can always say we are waiting for the VW specialist from Amsterdam to arrive with his young Female assistant to fix the vehicle, should all be fixed in 7 days!!

I can even provide you with a set of frilly curtains and furry clogs Pete, to complete the “camping look”… :laughing:
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Hi Patrick,
I bet you could along with other paraphernalia straight outa the 'Dam!
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Alright, alright… I’ll throw in some stroopwafels too… :wink:
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Not required mate as I have no oil leaks to mop up!

Froggy55:

Eddie Heaton:
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Having made my apologies, I’m intrigued Froggy… As you live in close proximity to Sancerre, you may well be connaissant with the former abandoned railway station just below the town, and if that’s the case, then you may recall that there is, or at least there was, a sort of night club affair in one of the old station buildings. The place may have been called Le Locomotive, or something of that nature, as it actually had an old French diesel/electric loco jutting out from the main building, used quite possibly as a dining area.

I have a photograph of it here…

The one at Sancerre had disappeared in 2010, probably been sold and carted off for restoration most likely. But how they managed it, God only knows , given the width of the roads in the area.

Just one more thing before I bugger off to fire up the frites français… I’m more than a little curious as to how the town of La Machine, a little farther up the Loire valley came to be so named…any offers?

Sorry, but I can no longer access Wikipedia on my steam powered iPad.

Regards.

Edouard le Philistine.

Incidentally, I wrote a book about the story of railways in the Sancerre area some 10 years ago, and can answer any questions concerning the subjetc. I also have many photos, but guess they’ll be totally condidered as out of the subject on this Forum. Just contact me via PM and give me a mail address if you’re interested! The 1953 railcar was a room of a restaurant (la Locomotive) which was part of the neighbouring night-club, closed after arson 3 or 4 years ago. Powered by a 300 bhp 31 litre Renault V 12. I used to travel in such railcars back in the seventies between Cosne and Nevers.

Concerning La Machine, it was a coal extracting site until 1974, and I advise you to visit their very ineresting musem. The same for Noyant d’Allier, between Moulins and Montluçon. Provided, of course, they are allowed to reopen.

Cheers

Paul

A 31L V12 Renault engine■■? Are there any clips on YouTube? Man, that must sound like a symphony!

pete smith:

pv83:

pete smith:

pv83:
My VW Transporter looks like a campervan so that will do!

And you happen to breakdown outside our house, and you force me take you in you in until it gets fixed…yep, sounds like a plan mate… :laughing:

Yes Dave, I like you train of thought there and we can always say we are waiting for the VW specialist from Amsterdam to arrive with his young Female assistant to fix the vehicle, should all be fixed in 7 days!!

I can even provide you with a set of frilly curtains and furry clogs Pete, to complete the “camping look”… :laughing:

Hi Patrick,
I bet you could along with other paraphernalia straight outa the 'Dam!
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Alright, alright… I’ll throw in some stroopwafels too… :wink:
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Not required mate as I have no oil leaks to mop up!
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Don’t you become a Philistine too mate!

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Were is Philistine and how do you become a member? as I think I would fit right in!

Eddie Heaton:
No worries Froggy, but many thanks for taking the trouble to go down there anyway.

With any luck, and if my health continues to hold out, I may risk a trip down there at some point this year, as I would like to cycle along the trackbed of the old line from Cosne to Bourges,…if it’s actually possible to do so. It could also quite possibly prove to be the last trip for me and the old C quinze…but we’ll see.

The loco in the shot from 1918 would appear to heading towards Cosne if I’m not mistaken.
Yes!

The picture taken in 2009 , I don’t know if it was taken by yourself or not, but 2009 would have been the year that I panelled out the Euro-Remorque under the shelter of the overhanging canopy of the former goods warehouse ( now used as a council storage building I believe) and disposed of the offcuts in that white benne shown in your picture. I’m surprised I’m not actually in the frame.
Maybe I just didn’t spot you?

Small world or what?

All the best Froggy.

Edouard le Philistine.

Small world indeed! My house stands at a few yards on the left of the photographer who took this picture of Veaugues station in 1910, standing on a bridge spanning the track. So the edge of my garden overlooks the railway line cutting. The iron bridge was used by the metre-gauge La Guerche to Argent railway from 1906 to 1948, the maintenance sheds of which can be seen in the background.
Of course, you’re more than welcome if ever you’re in the area, but acknowledge that the track is in very poor condition, thanks to the ■■■■■■■■ who roam every weekends with their motocross bikes. Moreover, some cuttings are now filled with waste, ore partly overgrown, but there’s always a by-pass using couolntry lanes.
Cheers
Paul

rigsby:
Sounds like it is Macron having another toddler tantrum Dave , the spite and vindictive backlash from the EU is a bad reflection on their character . At least our lot (for better or worst) don’t cut off their nose to spite their face . Macron would destroy France to satisfy his huge ego .

Hi rigsby…hope you’re well…

Nothing to do with Macron, he wasn’t even in power when this was drawn up in 2004, It was ratified and signed by all the EU countries, INCLUDING the UK.

This applies to all the other EU countries too, not just France, nor does It just apply to British living here, it’s all French citizens and their families that live in 3rd countries, which of course now includes the UK.

If anyone is to blame then look no further than the negotiating party of the UK government, who in an effort to “get Brexit Done” in such a hurry, obviously missed this, along with a host of other “oversites” which have been far better publicised.

The EU are not perfect, they were late with the vaccine roll out, (but are now catching up) but they’re also not to blame for everything either. The British media are happy to slate off the EU and France in particular, the Express and the Daily Mail in particular…but in this case you can’t blame France and Macron…

We haven’t seen our children and grandchildren in 18 months owing to Covid, they were hoping to come over here later in the year, (as they’ve done for several years now) this is just another complication and paper exercise to add to the covid tests, covid passports, and self isolation to complicate an already stressfull situation…

Anyway, you keep safe

Dave