pete smith:
Hi Dave,
it must still be raining or Liz has popped out as you are on here!
I thought Johnny may have considered South Korea as they have a better national football team!
Confession time Pierre…never been to, or watched a football match in my life… overpaid, prima donnas kicking a bladder around has never appealed …so, Paraguay / South Korea is completely lost on me.,…is England playing this time ?.. I’ll get me coat (as whips would say)
By gum pal!!! I know things are a bit slow in Brittany, but surely you’ve must have heard England is through to the quarter finals!
England winning a penalty shootout for the first time at the World Cup after 7 attempts - even this news reached Germany. South Korea - beware of the next match against Germany…
Nothing surprising! PRP took over the heavy haulage department of Willème when they closed down in 1971, and were themselves bought by Belgian MOL in 1978. Nevertheless, I didn’t know MOL had continued the production of trucks fitted with the Pelpel cab; interesting!
It does not look like a Pelpel cab to me- more like a rather crude attempt to look like one! At a guess, I’d say the MOL tractor predates the merger of the firms, after which MOL would have had carte blanche to use the “real” Pelpel cab, one would assume.
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After a closer look, you’re totally right! Even the windscreen is absolutely flat. In fact, only the silhouette is vaguely resemblant. Most of MOL’s trucks have crude-looking cabs; efficiency must always have been their first concern.
Pouring rain in Central France since yesterday evening, with some 50 mm (2 inches) rainfall in 12 hours.
Nothing surprising! PRP took over the heavy haulage department of Willème when they closed down in 1971, and were themselves bought by Belgian MOL in 1978. Nevertheless, I didn’t know MOL had continued the production of trucks fitted with the Pelpel cab; interesting!
It does not look like a Pelpel cab to me- more like a rather crude attempt to look like one! At a guess, I’d say the MOL tractor predates the merger of the firms, after which MOL would have had carte blanche to use the “real” Pelpel cab, one would assume.
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After a closer look, you’re totally right! Even the windscreen is absolutely flat. In fact, only the silhouette is vaguely resemblant. Most of MOL’s trucks have crude-looking cabs; efficiency must always have been their first concern.
Pouring rain in Central France since yesterday evening, with some 50 mm (2 inches) rainfall in 12 hours.
Send some rain over to Germany. My garden could do with more than a few inches of water.
I’m just wondering when it was realised that an aerodynamic designed cab would bring fuel consumption benefits.
Johnny
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anorak:
It does not look like a Pelpel cab to me- more like a rather crude attempt to look like one! At a guess, I’d say the MOL tractor predates the merger of the firms, after which MOL would have had carte blanche to use the “real” Pelpel cab, one would assume.
After a closer look, you’re totally right! Even the windscreen is absolutely flat. In fact, only the silhouette is vaguely resemblant. Most of MOL’s trucks have crude-looking cabs; efficiency must always have been their first concern.
Maybe the MOL cab was a post-takeover effort to reduce costs? IE they tried to retain the styling, but left the design to a lout with a guillotine and a press-brake?
jsutherland:
I’m just wondering when it was realised that an aerodynamic designed cab would bring fuel consumption benefits.
Johnny
Johnny
Vehicles had “streamlined” styling in the 1930s. By the mid 1960s, however, everything was square and sharp-edged, so fashion definitely took precedence over economics then. In answer to the question, I would cite the oil crisis of 1973 as the turning point. By the mid 1970s, roof deflectors were on top of cabs. In 1980, both Leyland and Scania launched new cabs with full air kits available, ex-factory. I still reckon an Atki Borderer, with a suitable fairing above the cab, would beat anything current in the wind tunnel.
jsutherland:
I’m just wondering when it was realised that an aerodynamic designed cab would bring fuel consumption benefits.
Johnny
Johnny
Vehicles had “streamlined” styling in the 1930s. By the mid 1960s, however, everything was square and sharp-edged, so fashion definitely took precedence over economics then. In answer to the question, I would cite the oil crisis of 1973 as the turning point. By the mid 1970s, roof deflectors were on top of cabs. In 1980, both Leyland and Scania launched new cabs with full air kits available, ex-factory. I still reckon an Atki Borderer, with a suitable fairing above the cab, would beat anything current in the wind tunnel. [emoji38]
jsutherland:
I’m just wondering when it was realised that an aerodynamic designed cab would bring fuel consumption benefits.
Johnny
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Johnny
Here you go Herr Sutherland, a couple of “Streamliners”, no idea of the year, but older than you think…slippery suckers I would imagine plus the old Williem looks like she’d cut through the air too, unlike the brick at the bottom…
The first is registered in France. Very few of these Scania (LB 76?) were sold in France, at a time when most French transporters rather trusted French trucks, maybe mainly because of the servicing network?
Froggy55:
The first is registered in France. Very few of these Scania (LB 76?) were sold in France, at a time when most French transporters rather trusted French trucks, maybe mainly because of the servicing network?
Froggy55:
The first is registered in France. Very few of these Scania (LB 76?) were sold in France, at a time when most French transporters rather trusted French trucks, maybe mainly because of the servicing network?
Hi Froggy55,
Here’s another French one.
Regards
Richard
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Ey up mate, you’re alright?
Looks rather “crusty” around the edges doesn’t it?
Fergie47:
Bit bias as I had one of these, great truck, especially after a Big J…
You never told me that Senior, you’ve only mentioned the F88 and F10/12… must have been quite a difference after swapping that Big J for this!
Early years ( in Europe) Big J… F86…LB76. .F88…it had a manual splitter, ie two gear levers…that’d have thrown you Whips, you can barely manage one
I was never a man to put a challenge down mate however, give me a ZF 16 speed 'box anytime
A ZF box? may as well have one made out of cheese, not a patch on Mr Fullers products! Patrick the motor you drive now is it fitted with a D-N-R switch instead of a gear lever? Cheer’s Pete
A ZF box? may as well have one made out of cheese, not a patch on Mr Fullers products! Patrick the motor you drive now is it fitted with a D-N-R switch instead of a gear lever? Cheer’s Pete
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Doesn’t say owt Pete, nor is it a switch… now that’s kraut engineering for ya
