Saviem's fan club (Part 1)

pete smith:
Hi Fergie,
Glad your back posting we were getting tipsy with the photo’s I was putting on!!

Springs here, and summers on its way, so I’ll be AWOL a bit more often, busy time around here… :wink:

jsutherland:
Great photos, thank you Fergie.

You’re welcome, glad you like them…

Froggy55:
The kind of stuff I really love, Fergie! Any idea of the make of the car that bumped into the Berliet GDM on first picture of the serie?

No idea Froggy…maybe Michel might know…needs a French car buff for that one… :unamused:

Froggy55:
The kind of stuff I really love, Fergie! Any idea of the make of the car that bumped into the Berliet GDM on first picture of the serie?

Froggy, it looks as if could be a Simca to me , but I am no expert

cheers Johnnie

Evening all,

I think that sammyopposite could be right, it looks like a Simca, with that big aerodynamic bodywork.

Fergie, the pictures that you post are a delight. Thank you for the time and effort that you take, they really bring back the France so many of us love!

Hereford 1971, that livery that the UK operation adopted really did the , (by the `80s), aging cab no favours…they should have stuck to our black with red pin stripes…that always looked great!

Fergie those military Berliets really deserve a brief comment…

That ugly looking 8 wheeled tractor, and what looks like a corrugated box van…well it a`int!

The concept was a Nuclear missile carrier, that could drive up…erect the missile launch pad, (the box van), fire said weapon, and then …bugger off…before the recipient could work out from whence it had come!

About 20 of these mass death delivering devices were created in the late `60s at the behest of General De Gaulle… project Albion…

The idea produced by Berliet and Latécoere was a transport module for the Nuclear Missile based on an 8x4 tractor unit, model TF 8x4 ET TRD 6 (VTE)…Vehicule Transporteur Érecteur. GVW was 75000kgs, powered by a MIS 645.50 14860cc 6 cylinder Turbo diesel, (145x150), 335 hp @2300 rpm. Transmission was via an Allinson Torquematic 6 speed and TC 550 tourque convertor semi auto box,to a triple reduction drive bogie. Road speed was in excess of 50kph.A similar transmission to that employed by Berliet in its Bourg en Bresse produced Dumper chassis.The coupling was for a 3.5in pin.

The missile carrier/erector was of a tri axle, (14500kg each capacity),on 1200x20 Michelin tyre equipment. Nett weight of the trailer was 8.3 tonnes, with a 43 tonne payload. Overall length was over 18 metres.

The missiles carried a 700kg weapon, with a range of 3000 kilometres.

But of course things changed in Europe, and these machines were recalled, one is certainly preserved, (and well worth looking at if you have the chance).

Now the R serie Renault was the ultimate version of the TRH as a Tank Transporter, Today the French Military have both Renault Premium, and Sisu, (with a Premium cab…just to confuse), as Tank Transporters. But the TRH 350TS @82 tonnes was the first cross over from code/hors code, giving a vehicle with its MIVS 08.35.30. 14888 cc V8 engine a rapid, (66kph), heavy tractor unit.

There had been a prototype TR380 @360 hp, with a 13 speed Fuller, but the military procurement chose the standard offering for its AMX 30 tanks. Fascinating history to French Tank Transporters, and the move from US sourced equipment, for another day I think!

But me, sadly, I would rather have driven that Willeme Cottard Horizon cab LD, even with its 190 hp 518 13 litre engine, of TSP…those Willeme`s really had a presence…just like my last glass of Bollinger, which awaits me…

Cheerio for now.

Customs post…old style

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Town scenes…in colour…there’s a van or wagon in there somewhere…

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Oh, so very French…

Fergie47:
Oh, so very French…

Checks must have been in fashion that year Dave ! Cheers Dennis.

That 3rd customs post down looks like the old border at Ghyvelde/Adinkerk by the canal. Robert

The customs posts picture look like the old Dunquirke,/ Belege , calais coast road ,and the second stennvord/popperinge/France /Belegie.?

No wonder my mum could not get ant table cloth material, “gingheim” all the mums were wearing it ,cheers pdb.

Bewick:

Fergie47:
Oh, so very French…

Checks must have been in fashion that year Dave ! Cheers Dennis.

Glad you’re looking in on a decent intellectual thread Den… :wink: …bet you still buy Anne dresses like that…ever wondered why she never wears them ?.. :imp:

robert1952:
That 3rd customs post down looks like the old border at Ghyvelde/Adinkerk by the canal. Robert

Well, it you’re right Robert, that’s some memory you have there…

Fergie47:

Bewick:

Fergie47:
Oh, so very French…

Checks must have been in fashion that year Dave ! Cheers Dennis.

Glad you’re looking in on a decent intellectual thread Den… :wink: …bet you still buy Anne dresses like that…ever wondered why she never wears them ?.. :imp:

robert1952:
That 3rd customs post down looks like the old border at Ghyvelde/Adinkerk by the canal. Robert

Well, it you’re right Robert, that’s some memory you have there…

Thank you! Well, here’s a rather evocative photo I took through my cab window approaching the same border early in the morning from the French side in the ‘olden days’. For you old timers, click on the the pic to bring it closer - and yes, it will remind you of what you felt like getting of the ferry in the early hours! Happy days. Robert

peggydeckboy:
The customs posts picture look like the old Dunquirke,/ Belege , calais coast road ,and the second stennvord/popperinge/France /Belegie.? (quote)

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Looks like the one down the corridor to me

Same place today of the " border crossing" at Adinkerke…if we still had them, we wouldn’t have half the problems we have today.

The first customs post is in between Roubaix and Pecq in Belgium, in a village called Leers (F) and Steenput (B) and I used it during a french strike to avoid a border traffic jam
It still looks a lot like then according to google maps, even the friterie is still there :laughing:

google.be/maps/@50.6852862, … 6656?hl=nl

bald:
The first customs post is in between Roubaix and Pecq in Belgium, in a village called Leers (F) and Steenput (B) and I used it during a french strike to avoid a border traffic jam
It still looks a lot like then according to google maps, even the friterie is still there :laughing:

google.be/maps/@50.6852862, … 6656?hl=nl

Didn’t think those customs pic’s would evoke so many memories… :wink:

Fergie47:
Didn’t think those customs pic’s would evoke so many memories… :wink:

I remember because, in true french fashion, customs stamped my T forms, authorization and triptyque in the friterie, while he had a plate of fries and a beer in front of him… :laughing: :sunglasses:


Such checkpoints do still exist. Here is the one in St-Gingolph, on the South bank of Lake Leman between France and Switzerland. I used to check there regularly in 2003-2004, and this Google StreetView shows no major change.

There was parking space for no more than 2 trucks. The Swiss officers were polite, efficient and quick, but unfortunately, one couldn’t say the same about their French colleagues; most unhelpful, typically French, “fonctionnaires”!

OFF TOPIC…but…The lad that MOT’s my car spent a year in Australia working on a huge ranch that grew Barley and had sheep as well…He was in the workshops keeping the old girls running, but other duty’s included going out and refueling all the tractors, and driving the old wagons collecting the grain… Here are a few pic’s, some of the lorries you’ll recognise…

Couple more…

and the second stennvord/popperinge/France /Belegie.?

Hiya,

I reckon you’re right about that second one, past it a couple of weeks ago cause there’s once again some roadworks on the other route one has to take nowadays…
That barrier is still there and on the corner there’s a pub, might be called cafe “de hoek”… please correct me if I’m wrong