’ …you are completely wrong about anyone becoming a traffic policeman…’
Tell me why anyone cant do it. Its driving a car to a certain taught standard. I play snooker but could never reach Ronnie’s standard. I could be taught maths but I would never have cracked the Enigma machine.
Try and stop yourself from talking ■■■■■■■■. You might surprise yourself. As regards ’ skid control ',you are itching to tell us the correct definition. The problem is though, all you prove then is my point. Anyone can listen, absorb information, and drive a car to a taught standard. Its not a special skill. There are loads of traffic cops,get a grip.
eagerbeaver:
’ …you are completely wrong about anyone becoming a traffic policeman…’
Tell me why anyone cant do it. Its driving a car to a certain taught standard. I play snooker but could never reach Ronnie’s standard. I could be taught maths but I would never have cracked the Enigma machine.
Try and stop yourself from talking ■■■■■■■■. You might surprise yourself. As regards ’ skid control ',you are itching to tell us the correct definition. The problem is though, all you prove then is my point. Anyone can listen, absorb information, and drive a car to a taught standard. Its not a special skill. There are loads of traffic cops,get a grip.
Sorry but I am not completely wrong.Do you realise how much training it takes to become a bog standard policeman never mind a traffic cop? Obviously not. There has to be a certain level of intelligence something a lot of people do not have.
Tell me any one thing you know about police training? Just one thing? I have worked with police and traffic police for many years and have been involved with certain courses they do. I have also participated in some of their training.
Tell me your experience of it? I suspect your experience is only your thoughts and I can assure you you are not thinking correctly.
Regarding “skid control” I am not itching to tell you anything. It is obvious from your earlier post you know nothing about skid control or advanced driving. Anyone that thinks a young kid can do exactly the same as a traffic cop is completely deluded.
Now please try to do some research about police training before talking anymore rubbish.
eagerbeaver:
Mitsubishi Evo/Scooby. A child can drive them fast and handle them. I’ve had both. Piece of ■■■■. BMW 530d with two traffic cones and a torch in the back. A bit of oversteer but progressive, so unless you are being a complete ■■■ there is enough warning before it lets go. A eurocopter above you monitoring everything and also recording. Sometimes if its too dangerous, the chase gets called off. Fast driving in wet conditions-pretty obvious whats required. Decision making ability-hardly professor level stuff. J turns are carried out every weekend by young lads in small hatchbacks-they think its cool. Skidpan-self explanatory. Highway code-a child can learn it. Traffic laws-a child can learn it. Let me know which mystical qualities I’ve missed.
A police pursuit trained officer is trained to a high standard. One which the VAST majority of people could attain. A truck driver is something which the VAST majority of people could do also.
The difference between your youth doing j turn on a weekend in Tosco’s car park, and a highly trained police driver, is apart from being anti social, the youth can handle it til it goes wrong, the copper doesn’t allow it to go wrong in the first place, and I know you will go on about police crashes, but they really are few and far between. If My wife and kids were walking down the road, I know whom I’d rather drove past them at whatever speed 
eddie snax:
Carryfast:
eddie snax:
so often older drivers me included, trot out the mantra “you’ve got your licence now start learning” or any other derivative off that statement. On this logic, a police driver would never learn the finer points off artic driving, and maybe they don’t, but their ability to handle to a very high standard, high performance vehicles gives them the ability to handle to a reasonable standard, an artic. Driving a truck aint rocket science
I can easily believe those 2 examples, driving is an aptitude as much as a learned skill, and either you have or you don’t, most Police drivers, I would think would be motoring enthusiasts, and that being a reason for them to specialise in that field, making moving anything with wheels a joy to relish. 
Agreed like pilots drivers are born not trained.However the idea of thinking that the job of driving a truck,isn’t at least as much,actually more so,‘rocket science’,as driving a police car at whatever level,would be a potentially dangerous understatement of the every day skill requirement for the job.
I agree that driving a truck is complex and high skilled, and a high performance police driver wont be driving to the highest off their skill set on a daily basis, but will be called upon to deliver that skill set at a moments notice, and that specialist driving skill set is to a very high standard that even us (quality)truckers might struggle to deliver
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albion1971:
Oh dear if you really think advanced driving is all about J turns and skid control you really have missed something.
Tell me what the main objective of skid control is if you know so much about it?
If you think a young kid has the level of skill of a highly trained police officer you are living in dreamland.
Regarding your last statement you are quite correct about a truck driver is something almost anyone can do but you are completely wrong about anyone becoming a traffic policeman.You have obviously no idea how tough their training is and I suspect you are a big police hater a bit like carryfast.
Firstly it doesn’t take police driver training to know that when any wheel/s is/are sliding the thing is already technically ‘out of control’.The clever bit is knowing what inputs are needed at that point to ‘limit’ that situation within recoverable levels and then ‘recover’ it.Ironically reactions and natural born ability play as big a part in that as training and experience.On that note there is no reason to think that age has anything whatsoever to do with the issue of attitude which is what matters.IE young reactions combined with natural ability and the right attitude can arguably be as good,if not better,in that regard.Which is why there are plenty of relatively ‘young kids’ holding WEC and F1 level race licences but not many if any who haven’t retired by middle age. 
As for your arguments I think you’re confusing ‘different’ methods, to meet a ‘different’ job requirement,with ‘better’.While,as I’ve said,the idea of trying to under state the level of ‘skills’ needed in the job of driving a truck for a living can only damage the attitude of those who intend to enter the industry as drivers and/or public perceptions of the job.
‘You’ asked a question ‘‘what is the main objective of skid controll’’.You also made the obvious inference that age is also an issue in that regard.
You’re saying that I don’t know what I’m talking about when I say that a sliding vehicle is an out of control vehicle ‘without’ the ‘correct’ inputs required to limit the slide within recoverable levels and recovering the situation by halting the slide.In which case put up or shut by explaining your bs arguments concerning which part I’ve got wrong.
As for the law I don’t give a zb how ‘tough’ their ‘training’ is when (1) as I said it is obviously ‘different’ training for a ‘different’ job and (2) that job isn’t that of a truck driver.The ‘job’ of a truck driver obviously requiring a ‘different’ but no less demanding skill set and,as I said,understating that fact can only damage workforce attitudes and public perceptions of it.
Carryfast:
albion1971:
Oh dear if you really think advanced driving is all about J turns and skid control you really have missed something.
Tell me what the main objective of skid control is if you know so much about it?
If you think a young kid has the level of skill of a highly trained police officer you are living in dreamland.
Regarding your last statement you are quite correct about a truck driver is something almost anyone can do but you are completely wrong about anyone becoming a traffic policeman.You have obviously no idea how tough their training is and I suspect you are a big police hater a bit like carryfast.
Firstly it doesn’t take police driver training to know that when any wheel/s is/are sliding the thing is already technically ‘out of control’.The clever bit is knowing what inputs are needed at that point to ‘limit’ that situation within recoverable levels and then ‘recover’ it.Ironically reactions and natural born ability play as big a part in that as training and experience.On that note there is no reason to think that age has anything whatsoever to do with the issue of attitude which is what matters.IE young reactions combined with natural ability and the right attitude can arguably be as good,if not better,in that regard.Which is why there are plenty of relatively ‘young kids’ holding WEC and F1 level race licences but not many if any who haven’t retired by middle age.
As for your arguments I think you’re confusing ‘different’ methods, to meet a ‘different’ job requirement,with ‘better’.While,as I’ve said,the idea of trying to under state the level of ‘skills’ needed in the job of driving a truck for a living can only damage the attitude of those who intend to enter the industry as drivers and/or public perceptions of the job.
Carryfast it seems you are incapable of giving a logical reason or answer to any given discussion.
Just read your first sentence. Now show me where I ever said that please? You cannot because I did not say it.
Secondly do not try to tell me about skid control because you know nothing about it. All you know is what is in your head a bit like eager beaver.
Why do you try and argue about things you obviously know nothing about. What you do know is exactly the same as average Joe so do not pretend otherwise. You have never done any training in your life and that is blatantly obvious by your silly answers.You could never train anyone to do anything because your mind is not logical.
Go back and you will read that I said in plain english that it does require a certain skill to drive a truck but truck drivers are not trained to anywhere near the standards of a police officer and that is a fact whether you like it or not.
Now I am not going to do the same as the last time and let you bore us all to death.
You asked about my experience regarding police officers. Brother in law was a policeman for 5 years. 2002-2007.
Cheshire police. Worked out of Northwich.
As I said on a previous post. You really do talk ■■■■■■■■.
What a crap, this country is in shortage of drivers why they put them signs along every motorway HGV DRIVER needed etc. Most private companies have “internal secret rules” for example one can be on 11ph while another doing same job is on 8.50. To the author of the post please understand that British drivers are safe forever.Why? Because they know roads better they communication skills are better,they driving habits are established for decades. Your boss knows that at early morning collection in wrong postcode you will solve problem quickly and keep the business running while overseas driver will stop and cause headache to the office bloke with crap english.in my place i was gonna walk off while doing delivery when i found out what he’s trying to do with my weages but im still here because i did stood up and say no mate im leaving this lorry here now and going home,hope that help,eastern european.
Only difference which may be important is there is not too many english blokes interested in driving i mean below their 30thies,most of the drivers above 40 and british busy industry expect no moaning but this has been changed now, well within last ten years in my opinion english people are grafting but it was bit different back in the days all the best chaps
eagerbeaver:
You asked about my experience regarding police officers. Brother in law was a policeman for 5 years. 2002-2007.
Cheshire police. Worked out of Northwich.
As I said on a previous post. You really do talk ■■■■■■■■.
Only 5 years does not sound like he got on very well then. He obviously passed on no knowledge of anything police related to you.
Look back over the posts and I think it is mostly you that is talking bollox. Do you still think a kid can handle a car as well as a traffic cop or did you have brain fade at that moment?
You still have not answered my question? I though that would have been an easy one considering how much you think you know about advanced driving. Oh dear.
He left the police to become a fireman. Still there. Loves it. Latest station is Altrincham.
Why do you insist on embarrassing yourself?
eagerbeaver:
He left the police to become a fireman. Still there. Loves it. Latest station is Altrincham.
Why do you insist on embarrassing yourself?
I am not the one embarrassing myself I am afraid. I have not come out with any ridiculous comments like you have.
Strange how others picked up on your stupidity.
Still no answer. What a surprise.
And by the way I am not interested what you say your brother in law has done.
Ok mate. I bow to your all knowing knowledge of complete strangers experiences.
joker83:
Because they know roads better they communication skills are better
Except yours it would seem
joker83:
crap english.
Pot,kettle,black? Their English is probably a lot better than the rambling gibberish you post
Thanks for reading mucker