An agency driver at our place had an accident with a wall a couple of weeks ago because he followed his sat nav and got stuck in some small village somewhere. Now on the morning at work he asked for a route map for where he was going (Batleys Swindon) but allegedly the map was no good so he said ok i will use my sat nav and proceeded to put in the post code.
Anyway that’s where his problems started as it was the wrong postcode on the delivery notes. His excuse was if the company had provided him with a decent map he wouldn’t of crunched the unit.
So what do you all reckon ? He almost has a point but then again had he used his sat nav in conjunction with a map he wouldn’t of gone down the road he went.
No sympathy, his own fault. Did he use his sat-nav to try to locate his brain■■?
I blame the wall, if it hadn’t been there the accident wouldn’t have happened. 
A map wouldn’t have shown the wall either.
bald bloke:
An agency driver at our place had an accident with a wall a couple of weeks ago because he followed his sat nav and got stuck in some small village somewhere. Now on the morning at work he asked for a route map for where he was going (Batleys Swindon) but allegedly the map was no good so he said ok i will use my sat nav and proceeded to put in the post code.
Anyway that’s where his problems started as it was the wrong postcode on the delivery notes. His excuse was if the company had provided him with a decent map he wouldn’t of crunched the unit.
So what do you all reckon ? He almost has a point but then again had he used his sat nav in conjunction with a map he wouldn’t of gone down the road he went.
I reckon he’s probably embarrassed about having an accident and looking for excuses to save face.
OK if he’d been given a route map he probably wouldn’t have had an accident but it was him who hit the wall if that’s what happened.
Excuses excuses, the fact of the matter is he hit a wall - the sat nav was not driving he was driving!
If he’d delivered the load safely, who would have been paid - him or the satnav?
The satnav didn’t cause the accident that’s for sure.
Harry Monk:
I blame the wall, if it hadn’t been there the accident wouldn’t have happened.
That’s similar to the Arabic point of view I believe… 
Isn’t there something to be said about a workman that blames his tools?
I can see the point he’s trying to use but most companies expect drivers to have their own maps or navigation devices.
Last year I worked for a builders merchant for a month stretch and they kept saying I was driving too slow, so one day one of the casual drivers came along with me.
They disagreed with me not wanting to go through the 7.5t weight limit when the SatNav directed me around it and also wanted me to drive faster than the 40mph, which is what I did most of the time. I was told I was too slow at reversing although the only time this casual driver took over he managed to reverse into some of the customers equipment (cement mixer) whilst I was with the customer getting the paperwork signed and that customer who put the complaint was very sure about who was driving so no blame was pushed onto me.
ISTR that driver blamed the automatic gearbox for being sluggish, blamed my satnav for being too conservative (Snooper S6000) and me for just being too slow generally.
But likewise I had to deliver to a sugar plant over near Telford. I’d never been there before, didn’t have the SN with me only a map and I can’t remember how I managed to miss it. The postcode was correct but no one thought to tell me that there were two villages nearby with the same name. If I was going North from one village to the other there were signs for the sugar place but not coming off the M54 to that village.
Another time I had an address in Norwich at some superstore but the postcode was 20 miles north of the town in a small village. I checked with the boss before I went and saw the original order sheet and that was correct, and getting there found there wasn’t a store of that name there. The contact number wasn’t correct and so told the boss and waited. An hour later when the customer rang to query where I was and the boss had a rant at them saying I was exactly where I was booked to be, the right road that matched the postcode.
It was then they told me they were in the centre of Norwich 
Perhaps this driver will learn from his mistakes. I am pleased in a way I have my Android mobile because it means that the mapping software can help me find the right place.
The only other thing recently was where I was delivering to somewhere in South Brum. The postcode was correct and got us to an address but they weren’t expecting. A bit of investigation found the actual place was closer to the M42 and was a caravan park. The customer insisted that that was their postcode but checking with a neighbour found a different postcode. The customer point blank refused to accept such things but did point out he didn’t get much post!
For crying out loud. In several years of driving, in the UK, Europe and North America I’ve never been given a bloody route card or a map for any thing. I dont know if this is a problem with the army, but when a good friend of mine left the army and started driving trucks on ferry work, he called me up on his first day, in a mad state of panic and exclaimed “They have not given me a route card! How the hell do they expect me to get to the place?!?!” and proceeded to tell me in the army they got such a thing.
Its not hard to get to Batley’s not far off J16 M4. Never trust a Post Code. Google the company and go for the proper Address. I had one in London that I Googled It appeared that it was in a housing estate so got the phone number rang them up. Spoke to the girl confirmed where it was and said to me has you come up the road you will see a fork in the road and a sign unsuitable for HGV’s take that road we just round the corner. I still stopped and walked it first to check. A small farm doing those organic yogurts.
A Sat-Nav is only as good as the person using it.
bald bloke:
An agency driver at our place had an accident with a wall a couple of weeks ago because he followed his sat nav and got stuck in some small village somewhere. Now on the morning at work he asked for a route map for where he was going (Batleys Swindon) but allegedly the map was no good so he said ok i will use my sat nav and proceeded to put in the post code.
Anyway that’s where his problems started as it was the wrong postcode on the delivery notes. His excuse was if the company had provided him with a decent map he wouldn’t of crunched the unit.
So what do you all reckon ? He almost has a point but then again had he used his sat nav in conjunction with a map he wouldn’t of gone down the road he went.
And this is why everyone asks for two years experience !!!
Madguy 
Two years experience doesn’t stop someone being an idiot
switchlogic:
Two years experience doesn’t stop someone being an idiot
No it just means their good at it 
Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.
bald bloke:
An agency driver at our place had an accident with a wall a couple of weeks ago because he followed his sat nav and got stuck in some small village somewhere. Now on the morning at work he asked for a route map for where he was going (Batleys Swindon) but allegedly the map was no good so he said ok i will use my sat nav and proceeded to put in the post code.
Anyway that’s where his problems started as it was the wrong postcode on the delivery notes. His excuse was if the company had provided him with a decent map he wouldn’t of crunched the unit.
So what do you all reckon ? He almost has a point but then again had he used his sat nav in conjunction with a map he wouldn’t of gone down the road he went.
i wont leave the yard without a map,be it a drivers map[drawn by a driver] or one of those maps they print off p.c,those maps + my maps[truckers maps,a-z,s etc ] always get me there,tried sat-nav but couldnt get on with it so gave it too my girl.
id want to see where he ended up first before judging him,was it a place where your straight away thinking i dont want to be going down here so he shouldnt of gone there,or one of those places that seem fine then suddenly your in trouble,that said if your in trouble you shouldnt just hit a wall,weve all been in tight spots thinking oh dear,but you take a step back,take stock of things and work your way steadily out of it
id guess theyll[your mob] will just do like our did a fter having 21 accidents/damage in a short space of time[19 agency/2 regular drivers],they just sent the bill to the agency,think what wound our boss up at the time was they were all avoidable accidents,careleness ,so he just said they can pay for it,might make them think a bit.
switchlogic:
Two years experience doesn’t stop someone being an idiot
+1…
I have 18 years experience 
ady1:
bald bloke:
An agency driver at our place had an accident with a wall a couple of weeks ago because he followed his sat nav and got stuck in some small village somewhere. Now on the morning at work he asked for a route map for where he was going (Batleys Swindon) but allegedly the map was no good so he said ok i will use my sat nav and proceeded to put in the post code.
Anyway that’s where his problems started as it was the wrong postcode on the delivery notes. His excuse was if the company had provided him with a decent map he wouldn’t of crunched the unit.
So what do you all reckon ? He almost has a point but then again had he used his sat nav in conjunction with a map he wouldn’t of gone down the road he went.i wont leave the yard without a map,be it a drivers map[drawn by a driver] or one of those maps they print off p.c,those maps + my maps[truckers maps,a-z,s etc ] always get me there,tried sat-nav but couldnt get on with it so gave it too my girl.
id want to see where he ended up first before judging him,was it a place where your straight away thinking i dont want to be going down here so he shouldnt of gone there,or one of those places that seem fine then suddenly your in trouble,that said if your in trouble you shouldnt just hit a wall,weve all been in tight spots thinking oh dear,but you take a step back,take stock of things and work your way steadily out of it
id guess theyll[your mob] will just do like our did a fter having 21 accidents/damage in a short space of time[19 agency/2 regular drivers],they just sent the bill to the agency,think what wound our boss up at the time was they were all avoidable accidents,careleness ,so he just said they can pay for it,might make them think a bit.
By the sound of it ady. you couldn’t find your arse with both hands !Bewick.