They can do what they want to me for online converstations. I call the contract supervisor Herr Flick and “That Gestapo ■■■■■■■■ in front of his boss, my boss and other drivers. Id say it in front of his face if he ever got his lazy ■■■ out of his comfy chair!
dle1uk:
allthough the above info is readily available and seems correct, as it may be, however try and find someone to fight your corner using the above and your on a loser,for instance you have worked at your place for 25 years, you were given a contract at the start of your employment, someone else started 6 months ago and just signed his contract, but i bet that this contract is totally different to the one you signed even though you both earn the same cash ect, I worked at a university and an enforced change of contact came around, unions fight it? no… tuc? no… we tried several organisations solicitors, employment law specialists,no one would take it on,and they all said that it is a very grey area…
But you still have your contract and what is on that matters, not what is on the contract of someone who has just signed theirs. Yours does not change just because someone starting has different terms.
The fact you were unsuccessful in finding someone doesn’t mean its wrong. Judging by who you tried I suspect that you were trying to do it without having to put your hand in your pocket.
And what would you be fighting? You refuse to accept the new terms and there’s nothing they can do. If it goes to tribunal they would have to provide a true signed copy with your signature on which wouldn’t be there.
nsmith1180:
They can do what they want to me for online converstations. I call the contract supervisor Herr Flick and “That Gestapo [zb]” in front of his boss, my boss and other drivers. Id say it in front of his face if he ever got his lazy ■■■ out of his comfy chair!
I like your style. 
But you still have your contract and what is on that matters, not what is on the contract of someone who has just signed theirs. Yours does not change just because someone starting has different terms.
wrong!!
my contract was permanent nights, guys employed after me were shifts, the company wanted me and a few others to do the same, when we looked into it including putting my hand in my pocket several times in fact,this was when we were told by again by several organisations involved in employment law that it was in fact a very grey area, and contracts can change without notice (within reason) , as my example in my original post. told by every person i saw that a contract of employment is worth nothing to an employee, but is worth alot more to the employer…
luckily i and a few colleaques who had the balls to go the distance won a case against the uni, by putting our hands in our pockets and paying a very good lass who as her own buisness specialising in HR and employment law, however we won the case not because the enforced change in contract but something else that was highlighted. but winning the case left us without a job…
just had a quick look at the paperwork/emails i had when it all happened and the following statement was in a email from a solicitor in york that we got some info from
“a contract of employment is for the benefit of the employer rather then employee”
Yes, changes to contracts are done with “employee consent”.
It’s usually something on the lines of “You can have a pay cut, some compulsory redundancies, OR you can sign this 4 page social media agreement into company law.”
…and as for that old flannel we got from that minus four-star loser Patten yesterday…
“We couldn’t just sack the offending staff behind the BBC fiascos recently, because they’d have a claim for unfair dismissal, and we’d have ended up paying out even more money in compensation.”
Sure baz. There are caps on such “compensation” for starters, and it’s easy to throw money at a loser to go quietly when it’s licence payer’s money rather than your own that’s being spent on the “rewards for failure par excellance” here.
If it were one of us, we’d just be given a bus ticket to the jobcentre. 
“If you go quietly, we won’t prosecute you for wasting company assets and company time during your employ with uz”.
Yes folks, anyone who puts Dad out of work is no better than someone who fiddles with Dad’s kids too. (Az it 'appens.)
Don’t you want to just put all tories (including Blair) in a field, and bomb the bar stewards? 
dle1uk:
Conor:
russjp:
Wrong, your contract of employment can be changed at any time but you must be given 90 days notification of any changes in writing by your employer whether YOU agree to the changes or not. If a union is in place then these changes can be negotiated over but the end result is usually the sameWhat utter ■■■■■■■■. Difference between me and you is I bother to find out this stuff instead of believing what people tell you down the pub.
From the GOVERNMENTS WEBSITE:
gov.uk/your-employment-cont … -agreementPart 1:
Getting agreement
If employers want to make changes to an employee’s contract, they must get their agreement.Employment law from TUC point of view:
worksmart.org.uk/rights/can_ … ontract_ofHowever, that does not change the fact that an unauthorised, one-sided variation is a breach of the contract of employment
And ACAS:
acas.org.uk/media/pdf/8/6/Va … ersion.pdfHow can contracts be varied?
- An existing contract of employment can be varied only with the agreement
of both parties.The only ways they can do it without your agreement is if your contract already states they can vary parts of it or they make you redundant.
You’ve been had mate.
allthough the above info is readily available and seems correct, as it may be, however try and find someone to fight your corner using the above and your on a loser,
for instance you have worked at your place for 25 years, you were given a contract at the start of your employment, someone else started 6 months ago and just signed his contract, but i bet that this contract is totally different to the one you signed even though you both earn the same cash ect, I worked at a university and an enforced change of contact came around, unions fight it? no… tuc? no… we tried several organisations solicitors, employment law specialists,no one would take it on,and they all said that it is a very grey area…
Thank you mate, i rest my case
Conor, you`ve been had mate 
ACAS has been infiltrated by ATOS anyway.
Today, MENO GIVTOS. 
“Hello mr bloggs. I see you’ve managed to get here to this appointment, albeit on crutches. You’re clearly fit to travel, and therefore fit to work. Stores will provide you with a basic NHS false leg to be deducted at affordable terms from your wages.”
Bking:
Face book, “social network”,slag your boss off!!!Sounds like one dumb son of a bitc* to me.
Problem is they let thick fekers like this drive a bloody truck.
Used to trust truck drivers on a motorway,junction,bypass etc but now
any bugger can get a licence but they got the IQ of a mollusc.I give them
a wiiiide birth now.See in my day or even now you have a problem with some feker(boss or not) you go put it into their face first.Not go shout a load of crap to Ethel in yarmouth first on some sad web siteforcretins dot bloody com.Bout time your ■■■■■■ grew a pair off balls.
Read the comments on here bout employment law ,ip address,privacy act,etc
and to tell you the truth gentlemen i am ■■■■■ ashamed.
That in a Trade (transport) I have been in for over 40 bloody years,that trades on its “oh so macho image” is reduced to calling somebody else names on some, lets face it,gossiping wives bloody network instead of walking into a transport office and saying “your a [zb] and I will see you outside”
What can you say you are a bunch of ■■■■■ women.Glad I have only 10 years to go!
This is why the wops the waps and any bugger else can walk into this country and take your work and your bloody dignity.WAKE UP
Blimey 
I siged my contract 3 yrs ago, and in it there is a bit about social media/internet/the press, etc etc.
We can’t say anything without company approval 1st.
Winseer:
ACAS has been infiltrated by ATOS anyway.
Today, MENO GIVTOS.“Hello mr bloggs. I see you’ve managed to get here to this appointment, albeit on crutches. You’re clearly fit to travel, and therefore fit to work. Stores will provide you with a basic NHS false leg to be deducted at affordable terms from your wages.”
Having gone through the ATOS mill. I can assure you that is so very true.
I reckon they have cameras in the toilets to see if you can still ■■■■ on your own, they certainly do everything to break you down
The only run-in I ever had with ATOS involved them overruling my GP and two specialists who’d signed me off sick for quite a while. He argued that “as you could make this appointment, I was fit to return to work early”. I was warned that if I didn’t attend, I’d be on zero pay, so I would have made that appointment in a hearse if necassary…
What was the injury? - ‘Hangman’s fracture’ of 3rd cervical vertebrae… You don’t even want to be suddenly moving your head from side-to-side, but these ATOS quacks are a shame to the so-called “medical profession”! (Where’s the “Do No Harm” compliance?)
Because there’s no accountability of these doctors (ie they are not fined, go to jail, or otherwise punished when things go wrong) they are going to just put pen to paper at every opportuniuty to make it look like they are earning their money.
Imagine what the world would be like if a suit makes the wrong decision, someone dies, and THEY GO TO JAIL AS A RESULT - like when one of us gets a CD endorsement… WE get punished, but the suits? - Oh no!. Don’t get me started!
limeyphil:
if someone posted derogatry comments about a company that i owned or run, then i’d want to know where i was going wrong. good morale makes more profit.
the trouble with large companies is that they employ managers with no business acumen.
+1
i’m in charge of a few lads at the moment. they slag me off to my face and i give it right back.
today i told one lad to stop eating a banana, he wanted to know why. i told him they were for the agency monkey. the agency monkey threw the skin at me. nothing is on facebook about it, and do you know why?
it’s because i make working for me fun. more work gets done, no one moans about doing a bit of overtime, and everyone is in early.
so the only reason a firm or a boss gets a slagging is because they can run a [zb]ing bath, never mind a business.
Far too many say too much on there probably without thinking about it. Saying that there’s one or two on most forums, this one included, who would benefit from thinking about the content of their posts before submitting them.
BB
Tarrman:
helmik:
You represent your company/employer even when youre not on duty. If you choose to slate your boss or your company off and name them then it becomes gross misconduct as it puts the employer in a bad light. I am under the impression there have been many other examples of this and tribunals have agreed with the employers.Just my ten pence worth,
mick
What he said ^^^^^^^^
There have been a few instances at my work where people have been sacked because of what’s been said on Facebook/YouTube. Even if you are off duty you need to be careful what you say about the company you work for. It does go down as gross misconduct, you won’t have a leg to stand on.
'course you have a leg to stand on… “wasn’t me boss, must’ve left it logged in…” 
There’s a term called ‘fraped’ when you leave your facebook logged in and people post all kinds of crap
I’m currently working for a great boss in a firm of 8 people in total, job’s not ideal but the boss is sound, but trust me, we’ve had words in the past and he knows if I’ve got a problem, then it’ll be aired and the same if he’s got a problem with me.
I thought “frape” was something you eat with a cup of tea like a croissoint?
As for “leaving your facebook logged in” - You’d have to get past everyone in the house to get at anything “online”, so my new cat has the best chance of “fraping” me if you look at it like that.
Saaamon:
bobbya:
Saaamon:
Fair play to them for sacking him!You seem like a nice person,not,!!
You give someone a job, pay them every week, then you hear their calling you a [zb] openly on facebook to all his mates and you’d still keep him on?
do personal opinions of people matter if they can do the job well? sounds like the boss is a ■■■■■■ and cant separate personal and professional. you dont need to like the people you work with. you are only there to do a job, not to be most popular employee (or employer) of the month and im sure plenty of employees have been slated by their bosses. the only difference is an employer has the authority to act childishly about it and dismiss an employee who doesnt want to be their bestest friend in the whole wide world
im with saamon on this one.if you think im a ■■■■■■■■■ youre unlikly to be doing a good job for me....so down the road for you boyo. also..if your stupid enough to do it in the first place...im not sure i want you in my organisation anyway 
If your daft enough to accept your boss as a friend or not set your security setting to restrict who can see your page then slag people off you deserve everything you get.