The silly thing is a boss is more likely to object to someone mouthing off “My boss is a pillock who supports spurs” than someone who says “My boss won’t chase up that guy who’s got his hand in the till” which I would have thought would reflect worse on them in the higher company’s eyes.
Then of course there’s the “My boss is a crook and I’ve got proof” which will probably have the employee thus saying ending up getting a contract taken out on them!
If I were a boss, I’d only be concerned about troll attacks, and I’d ignore the rest as mere banter.
What was the actual boss critique in this case?
As far as facebook is concerned, you don’t ever use your own name if you are to make use of it effectively.
There is no driver anywhere called “Winseer” for instance. The ID has been around for over a quarter of a century, and has nothing to do with driving apart from the posts on here.
Ive been sacked because of an internet forum before.
But my current knows im on a coach drivers website and apparently hes had other firms ring him up praising me
Winseer:
There is no driver anywhere called “Winseer” for instance. The ID has been around for over a quarter of a century, and has nothing to do with driving apart from the posts on here.
But your IP address is logged and you can be traced from that one way or another.
It could be classed as bringing the company into disrepute, which is gross misconduct. However there should be an investigation and the right to appeal etc etc.
Baggie:
We’ve all just received a letter from head office regarding social media,which in effect says that slagging off the company or individuals therein will result in a trip to the local jobcentre
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They can’t do that without altering your contract of employment which can only be done with your agreement.
Wrong, your contract of employment can be changed at any time but you must be given 90 days notification of any changes in writing by your employer whether YOU agree to the changes or not. If a union is in place then these changes can be negotiated over but the end result is usually the same
Something like that doesn’t nessesarilly have to be in the T&C of the contract, it could be an update to site/company rules. They did it in my work by mean of sticking posters up on notice boards, no changes to contracts.
matt3903:
It could be classed as bringing the company into disrepute, which is gross misconduct. However there should be an investigation and the right to appeal etc etc.
+1
The person should be suspended with pay while they investigate. Without pay if they are immediately found guilty.
DAF95XF:
Ive been sacked because of an internet forum before.
But my current knows im on a coach drivers website and apparently hes had other firms ring him up praising me
limeyphil:
if someone posted derogatry comments about a company that i owned or run, then i’d want to know where i was going wrong. good morale makes more profit.
the trouble with large companies is that they employ managers with no business acumen.
you’ve just summed it up! in this little namby pamby world of STOBRATS you do as I say! bullstein! these little hitlers have no sense or acumen at all! Morale = workforce who’ll make you lots of money! Free country and free speech is getting eradicated because of maggie an d Ronald regan! These firms want it all there own way, but life doesn’t work like that
matt3903:
It could be classed as bringing the company into disrepute, which is gross misconduct. However there should be an investigation and the right to appeal etc etc.
some ■■■■■■■■■ said that to me at STOBRATS! I’ve brought them into disrepute I reply " err no, the helmets on the tv program have done that, STOBRATS have done it fo forty years! I resigned! [zb]! I told them face to face, I’ve got balls!
I don’t understand the mentality behind this at all!
Point 1.
I go to work to earn money, which enables me to give some of it to Tossco, Safeway, whoever, most of the rest to Robbingbarstewards Mortgage company and at the end of all that, I have a little left for me and my kids.
Point 2.
My boss employs my services on the understanding that I work to the best of my ability and for the benefit of the company then he gives me an agreed wage.
Point 3.
I give my services to the company, and work to the best of my ability etc for 1 week, knowing that my boss will pay me an agreed wage at the end of the next week.
Then we go back to Point 1 and start all over again. Any deviation from this - either way - is ALWAYS dealt with face to face and resolved fairly and quickly.
Why would I/anyone publicly slag off my/their boss ANYWHERE? Isn’t that called cutting off your nose to spit your face?
I’m sure we’ve all called our boss many and various different names at times under our breath - thats just human nature. But PUBLICLY? I have no ideas about the legal stance and don’t care - if an employee has slagged off the employer publicly then he deserves all he gets, IMHO.
He’s obviously a sandwich short of a picnic and would be far better sitting back for a moment and thinking about the situation, rather than battering the keyboard in a temper and then having to face the repurcussions…
Problem is they let thick fekers like this drive a bloody truck.
Used to trust truck drivers on a motorway,junction,bypass etc but now
any bugger can get a licence but they got the IQ of a mollusc.I give them
a wiiiide birth now.
See in my day or even now you have a problem with some feker(boss or not) you go put it into their face first.Not go shout a load of crap to Ethel in yarmouth first on some sad web siteforcretins dot bloody com.Bout time your ■■■■■■ grew a pair off balls.
Read the comments on here bout employment law ,ip address,privacy act,etc
and to tell you the truth gentlemen i am ■■■■■ ashamed.
That in a Trade (transport) I have been in for over 40 bloody years,that trades on its “oh so macho image” is reduced to calling somebody else names on some, lets face it,gossiping wives bloody network instead of walking into a transport office and saying “your a ■■■■ and I will see you outside”
What can you say you are a bunch of ■■■■■ women.Glad I have only 10 years to go!
This is why the wops the waps and any bugger else can walk into this country and take your work and your bloody dignity.WAKE UP
Winseer:
There is no driver anywhere called “Winseer” for instance. The ID has been around for over a quarter of a century, and has nothing to do with driving apart from the posts on here.
But your IP address is logged and you can be traced from that one way or another.
IP addresses mean diddley squat as it can be changed or spoofed and anyway an IP address only identifies the internet connection and NOT the person, so it is impossible to trace an individual.
Kevwall:
Second time I’ve heard this kinda story this week. My cousin is a driver and he has a friend who was having a bad day, Rit a status venting his anger at his company that day, he got up to the north east to make his delivery, only for someone from work to show the boss the status he writ, the company made him walk there an then and to make his own way back home from the north east to Merseyside!
Needs to find a good employment lawyer. They have to give notice unless it is classed as gross misconduct in his contract but even then they can’t dismiss you on the spot without a meeting involving the manager and another representative. They also had a duty of care to the employee so had to arrange to get him back to his home depot.
Field day comes to mind.
Do you really think the 2 recollections are going to match? Guy will say They made me go, company will say he offered to go.
I’m aware of more than 1 guy who resigned before a disciplinary verdict was reached and tried the constructive dismissal route, I know of none who were successful at tribunal.
Winseer:
There is no driver anywhere called “Winseer” for instance. The ID has been around for over a quarter of a century, and has nothing to do with driving apart from the posts on here.
But your IP address is logged and you can be traced from that one way or another.
IP addresses mean diddley squat as it can be changed or spoofed and anyway an IP address only identifies the internet connection and NOT the person, so it is impossible to trace an individual.
matt3903:
Actually you can be traced from your IP address.
Actually the computer/device can be traced from the IP address, the user is a little harder.
Yeah, that’s what I meant to say. With the introduction of IPv6, devices such as printers, TV’s & set-top boxes etc…all have an IP address. An individual does not…yet.
3 players at the local football team got sacked the other week for posting on Facebook on the lines of ‘‘getting paid for doing ■■■■ all’’ with a picture of them sat there laughing.
Read on another forum a lad had been threatened with the sack if he didn’t remove a post he made on a forum 3 years ago!! which simply was in reply to a forum user asking for help saying he worked for this company and could give out advice / help.
I know of two chaps who were sacked when they were found to be on the net during working hours.
Winseer:
There is no driver anywhere called “Winseer” for instance. The ID has been around for over a quarter of a century, and has nothing to do with driving apart from the posts on here.
But your IP address is logged and you can be traced from that one way or another.
It can’t be used against me without a court order. It can’t be handed over to third parties without a breach of several privacy laws, including the data protection act.
Basically, unless the boss I’m slagging off is the webmaster, - what they gonna do?
You don’t need an IP address to trace me in any case, as it’s never been a secret as to who I am. It’s laws against the misuse of that knowledge that protect me, and protect everyone else on the internet from being randomly snooped without being a suspect in a serious crime like terrorism or paedophillia.
Lord McAlpine didn’g get a shedload of money this week because he’s a lord - let’s put it that way!