roping and sheeting

mappo:
Here,s an early shot of roping and sheeting I found on the net.

Or just sheeting,can’t see any ropes…yet :exclamation:

David

Hi Stanfield, What would elf n safety make of these examples of roping and sheeting, it must be dangerous to have a load that high secured by ropes ■■?
I am told by a mate who attended a drivers CPC course recently that ropes are completely out these days and certified straps only used. Rope hooks have to be stress tested. What a load of bull(zb) !!!
I doubt would not last 5 minutes if I was asked to rope and sheet a wagon today because I would unwittingly have broken every rule in the elf n safety book.
I have yet to lose part of a load secured by ropes and sheets in 52 years.
Cheers, Leyland600

Bewick:
The trailer mate looks very much like "H"in his younger days ! Anon. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Hiya,
Well spotted Anon and I’ve still got the cap, no heaters in them days either.
thanks harry, long retired.

harry_gill:

Bewick:
The trailer mate looks very much like "H"in his younger days ! Anon. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Hiya,
Well spotted Anon and I’ve still got the cap, no heaters in them days either.
thanks harry, long retired.

No heater Harry, then what did you keep in that blooming great boiler hanging on the front then, single malt? :confused:

Pete.

windrush:

harry_gill:

Bewick:
The trailer mate looks very much like "H"in his younger days ! Anon. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Hiya,
Well spotted Anon and I’ve still got the cap, no heaters in them days either.
thanks harry, long retired.

No heater Harry, then what did you keep in that blooming great boiler hanging on the front then, single malt? :confused:

Pete.

That’s where Saviem keeps his Bollie :exclamation:

David

Just to bring this very entertaining thread back to the fore as there seems to be some interesting opinions being offered currently along the lines that if you are supplied with the right equipment any “likely lad” could make an immaculate job of sheeting and roping anything on a flat,what a load of bollox :open_mouth: :laughing: Just goes to demonstrate that anyone suggesting such a possibility obviously has never done the job ! My opinion only others may hold a completely opposite view ! Cheers Bewick.

if it looks right it is right as a rule , and if the sheets and ropes are tight and tidy it 's not going to fall off . i’ve seen a few wagons off the road at all angles with the load still firmly in place , cheers , dave

Yes your correct leyland600 rope is no longer to be used according to certain vosa inspectorates due to there being no SWL with rope

utter ■■■■■ i know but this is what were dealing with nowadays

my insurance broker commented to me about one of our loads he saw sheeted and roped and said how unsafe and how we would feel uneasy driving with a load like that
i didnt reply as i can very often offend

Im with you dennis its a saying that still goes about today , yes but you have the right sheets for the job so its easy for you :angry:

yeh right

Mike…

This a load of Bowater Scott product en route from Barrow mill to their RDC at Oliver Rd.West Thurrock standing on our (then) trailer park on the side of the A6 at Milnthorpe,it is one of many hundreds of identical loads we ran to Thurrock with.The night trunk would leave Milnthorpe at around 6/7pm and run to Daventry,the night man returning to Milnthorpe with a load of woodpulp from the Thames or maybe a load of Core Board for Bowaters from Reeds Tovil mill in Kent.The Daventry day men would be stood at Thurrock for starting time the following morning to tip and then they would reload and return to Daventry.These trunks we operated ran like clockwork 100% trouble free,good traffic,good customers,well organised traffic office good tackle and last but by no means least great drivers and shunters.Bewick.

Bewick:
This a load of Bowater Scott product en route from Barrow mill to their RDC at Oliver Rd.West Thurrock standing on our (then) trailer park on the side of the A6 at Milnthorpe,it is one of many hundreds of identical loads we ran to Thurrock with.The night trunk would leave Milnthorpe at around 6/7pm and run to Daventry,the night man returning to Milnthorpe with a load of woodpulp from the Thames or maybe a load of Core Board for Bowaters from Reeds Tovil mill in Kent.The Daventry day men would be stood at Thurrock for starting time the following morning to tip and then they would reload and return to Daventry.These trunks we operated ran like clockwork 100% trouble free,good traffic,good customers,well organised traffic office good tackle and last but by no means least great drivers and shunters.Bewick.

Interesting way of trunking Dennis - normally you’d have had day men tipping and loading in Thurrock & Kent. Then a night man running up to Daventry. You obviously didn’t get the traffic problems I would have expected. I remember Friday afternoons and evenings being a nightmare on the 2 lane section of the M1 heading north in the early seventies.

Am I missing something?

John.

John West:

Bewick:
This a load of Bowater Scott product en route from Barrow mill to their RDC at Oliver Rd.West Thurrock standing on our (then) trailer park on the side of the A6 at Milnthorpe,it is one of many hundreds of identical loads we ran to Thurrock with.The night trunk would leave Milnthorpe at around 6/7pm and run to Daventry,the night man returning to Milnthorpe with a load of woodpulp from the Thames or maybe a load of Core Board for Bowaters from Reeds Tovil mill in Kent.The Daventry day men would be stood at Thurrock for starting time the following morning to tip and then they would reload and return to Daventry.These trunks we operated ran like clockwork 100% trouble free,good traffic,good customers,well organised traffic office good tackle and last but by no means least great drivers and shunters.Bewick.

Interesting way of trunking Dennis - normally you’d have had day men tipping and loading in Thurrock & Kent. Then a night man running up to Daventry. You obviously didn’t get the traffic problems I would have expected. I remember Friday afternoons and evenings being a nightmare on the 2 lane section of the M1 heading north in the early seventies.

Am I missing something?
YES ! :blush: Dennis.
John.

A couple of Henry Longs efforts 1 loaded with wool and i would expect 1 loaded with yarn both photos are Peter Davies

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Now Ramone, as a non sheeter, that rope on the top left hand corner of the bottom pick appears to be slack to me. Surely a tightened rope shouldn’t have a curve in it, or am I totally wrong as per normal? :confused:

Pete.

windrush:
Now Ramone, as a non sheeter, that rope on the top left hand corner of the bottom pick appears to be slack to me. Surely a tightened rope shouldn’t have a curve in it, or am I totally wrong as per normal? :confused:

Pete.

dunno it looks to me that its the shape of the load and then the rope is purposely caught behind the headboard probably to get the rope tighter could be wrong though .The other load is wool and there was an art to loading it you wouldnt get away with loose ropes with wool

ramone:
dunno it looks to me that its the shape of the load and then the rope is purposely caught behind the headboard probably to get the rope tighter could be wrong though .The other load is wool and there was an art to loading it you wouldnt get away with loose ropes with wool

Yes you could be right, no doubt an expert will be along in a minute to confirm either way! :wink: Dont think that the load will shift far though.

Pete.

As far as my memory can recall, most of the art in loading wool was to remember to tighten the ropes every ten miles or so! Cracked, sore and bleeding hands were just another occupational hazard in those days, making us grateful when man-made ropes and PVC gloves came onto the scene.

Retired Old ■■■■:
As far as my memory can recall, most of the art in loading wool was to remember to tighten the ropes every ten miles or so! Cracked, sore and bleeding hands were just another occupational hazard in those days, making us grateful when man-made ropes and PVC gloves came onto the scene.

Wimp :slight_smile:
Les.

lespullan:

Retired Old ■■■■:
As far as my memory can recall, most of the art in loading wool was to remember to tighten the ropes every ten miles or so! Cracked, sore and bleeding hands were just another occupational hazard in those days, making us grateful when man-made ropes and PVC gloves came onto the scene.

Wimp :slight_smile:
Les.

Quite correct there Les he is nothing but a “Big Girls Blouse” !! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :wink: Cheers Bewick.

One thing the Lads from West ■■■■■■■■■■ were excellent at was sheeting and roping,without exception they always took a pride in turning out immaculate loads,this is a shot of one of my old Marra Harry Thompson’s motors which looks like the sheets had been ironed on!Cheers Dennis.

Bewick:

lespullan:

Retired Old ■■■■:
As far as my memory can recall, most of the art in loading wool was to remember to tighten the ropes every ten miles or so! Cracked, sore and bleeding hands were just another occupational hazard in those days, making us grateful when man-made ropes and PVC gloves came onto the scene.

Wimp :slight_smile:
Les.

Quite correct there Les he is nothing but a “Big Girls Blouse” !! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :wink: Cheers Bewick.

I can’t let these comments go unchallenged! You’re all ganging up on me now but I’ll bet most would claim that, since retirement, the females of our acquaintance have appreciated the more delicate touch of our “wimpish” hands. Nudge, nudge, say no more! :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: