Retired Old ■■■■:
As far as my memory can recall, most of the art in loading wool was to remember to tighten the ropes every ten miles or so! Cracked, sore and bleeding hands were just another occupational hazard in those days, making us grateful when man-made ropes and PVC gloves came onto the scene.
Wimp
Les.
Quite correct there Les he is nothing but a “Big Girls Blouse” !! Cheers Bewick.
I can’t let these comments go unchallenged! You’re all ganging up on me now but I’ll bet most would claim that, since retirement, the females of our acquaintance have appreciated the more delicate touch of our “wimpish” hands. Nudge, nudge, say no more!
Hiya,
Yes ROF, I have to agree my Missus likens my touch to that of a midwife when I agreed
with her she of course wanted to know how I knew about midwives hands, although my
answer “I remember being born” didn’t cut any ice, I still got a clip round the lughole.
thanks harry, long retired.
ramone:
A couple of Henry Longs efforts 1 loaded with wool and i would expect 1 loaded with yarn both photos are Peter Davies
It would have been difficult to make a neat and tidy job on many wool loads as the bales were different sizes and also some were softer than others ,once they were dropped from the overhead crane it was the drivers job to move them into place ,thats where the skill in loading wool was , Les Pullan could explain much better than i can (he is very old ) and would have loaded plenty , many of the motors and some trailers were fitted with ratchets at the rear to get more tension , some rigids were also fitted with overhead canopys my dads mammoth major was , i would imagine that would be quite tricky to rope and sheet
ramone:
A couple of Henry Longs efforts 1 loaded with wool and i would expect 1 loaded with yarn both photos are Peter Davies
It would have been difficult to make a neat and tidy job on many wool loads as the bales were different sizes and also some were softer than others ,once they were dropped from the overhead crane it was the drivers job to move them into place ,thats where the skill in loading wool was , Les Pullan could explain much better than i can (he is very old ) and would have loaded plenty , many of the motors and some trailers were fitted with ratchets at the rear to get more tension , some rigids were also fitted with overhead canopys my dads mammoth major was , i would imagine that would be quite tricky to rope and sheet
Hi Ramone, Less of the old you cheeky young whippersnapper, what’s this overhead crane bit, most places [in my younger days] you had to roll the bales full length of the trailer 4 high 96 bales then rope and sheet them if you still had any energy left, it’s too easy nowadays imagine being a wagon driver without rough cracked hands.
Les.
ramone:
A couple of Henry Longs efforts 1 loaded with wool and i would expect 1 loaded with yarn both photos are Peter Davies
It would have been difficult to make a neat and tidy job on many wool loads as the bales were different sizes and also some were softer than others ,once they were dropped from the overhead crane it was the drivers job to move them into place ,thats where the skill in loading wool was , Les Pullan could explain much better than i can (he is very old ) and would have loaded plenty , many of the motors and some trailers were fitted with ratchets at the rear to get more tension , some rigids were also fitted with overhead canopys my dads mammoth major was , i would imagine that would be quite tricky to rope and sheet
Hi Ramone, Less of the old you cheeky young whippersnapper, what’s this overhead crane bit, most places [in my younger days] you had to roll the bales full length of the trailer 4 high 96 bales then rope and sheet them if you still had any energy left, it’s too easy nowadays imagine being a wagon driver without rough cracked hands.
Les.
Ha ha i knew you`d react , i meant the hoists from the old mills like the ones in this photo not the overhead cranes like Solaglas had ,
ramone:
A couple of Henry Longs efforts 1 loaded with wool and i would expect 1 loaded with yarn both photos are Peter Davies
It would have been difficult to make a neat and tidy job on many wool loads as the bales were different sizes and also some were softer than others ,once they were dropped from the overhead crane it was the drivers job to move them into place ,thats where the skill in loading wool was , Les Pullan could explain much better than i can (he is very old ) and would have loaded plenty , many of the motors and some trailers were fitted with ratchets at the rear to get more tension , some rigids were also fitted with overhead canopys my dads mammoth major was , i would imagine that would be quite tricky to rope and sheet
Hi Ramone, Less of the old you cheeky young whippersnapper, what’s this overhead crane bit, most places [in my younger days] you had to roll the bales full length of the trailer 4 high 96 bales then rope and sheet them if you still had any energy left, it’s too easy nowadays imagine being a wagon driver without rough cracked hands.
Les.
Ha ha i knew you`d react , i meant the hoists from the old mills like the ones in this photo not the overhead cranes like Solaglas had ,
They were easy all you had to do was swing them into position or near, without falling of the f—ing trailer, montys out of the slings at Liverpool docks were a nightmare where they dropped they stayed no picking them up again, good old hard days.
Les.
Hi Dennis, Doesn’t Harry’s ERF and trailer look good just the way he always had it, of course there was always a bit of competition from you know who frae Ireby ■■
Cheers Leyland 600
Leyland600:
Hi Dennis, Doesn’t Harry’s ERF and trailer look good just the way he always had it, of course there was always a bit of competition from you know who frae Ireby ■■
Cheers Leyland 600
Hiya Gerald,Aye I got to know HTT when he was running a single drive Ergo Reiver in '68 when I started running up and down to London with my D1000 we both used to load off J & W at London Colney,Harry for the top side and me for Lancaster/Barrow/Kendal etc.Harry ran out of Smith Bros.and we used to come across one another on mid-night flyers to London Log sheets? “wats them marra eh!” Smiths certainly got their “pound of flesh” out of their contractors without doubt,everything seemed to be wanted by yesterday! I think RWB and HTT were of a similar temprement but Harry used to tell me about some the antics the Boyes lads got up to,one I remember him telling me was that young Alex could make his Trader literally “jump” into the air by shooting forward then smashing it into reverse and it all four wheels left the ground,obviously this was in the days when they were “raj” and probably caused Father Alex no end of headaches and obviously a long while before they finally started to do well after BRS had left the scene in W.■■■■■■■■■■ doubt you know a lot worse eh! Anyway,I will wish you the Family a Very Happy Christmas and a Happy and healthy New Year.Regards Dennis.
ramone:
A couple of Henry Longs efforts 1 loaded with wool and i would expect 1 loaded with yarn both photos are Peter Davies
It would have been difficult to make a neat and tidy job on many wool loads as the bales were different sizes and also some were softer than others ,once they were dropped from the overhead crane it was the drivers job to move them into place ,thats where the skill in loading wool was , Les Pullan could explain much better than i can (he is very old ) and would have loaded plenty , many of the motors and some trailers were fitted with ratchets at the rear to get more tension , some rigids were also fitted with overhead canopys my dads mammoth major was , i would imagine that would be quite tricky to rope and sheet
Hi Ramone, Less of the old you cheeky young whippersnapper, what’s this overhead crane bit, most places [in my younger days] you had to roll the bales full length of the trailer 4 high 96 bales then rope and sheet them if you still had any energy left, it’s too easy nowadays imagine being a wagon driver without rough cracked hands.
Les.
Ha ha i knew you`d react , i meant the hoists from the old mills like the ones in this photo not the overhead cranes like Solaglas had ,
They were easy all you had to do was swing them into position or near, without falling of the f—ing trailer, montys out of the slings at Liverpool docks were a nightmare where they dropped they stayed no picking them up again, good old hard days.
Les.
Les you are correct some of the mills in Bradford made very hard work for rear end loading, Quebec packing, Robinson peels,Sir James hills
to name but a few.Talk about roping and sheeting,load in the morning sheet rope up set off to Liverpool or hull sheets of tip re load
rope sheet back home all in the day that is if you got a good tip and turn round.?
Regards Dave
ramone:
A couple of Henry Longs efforts 1 loaded with wool and i would expect 1 loaded with yarn both photos are Peter Davies
It would have been difficult to make a neat and tidy job on many wool loads as the bales were different sizes and also some were softer than others ,once they were dropped from the overhead crane it was the drivers job to move them into place ,thats where the skill in loading wool was , Les Pullan could explain much better than i can (he is very old ) and would have loaded plenty , many of the motors and some trailers were fitted with ratchets at the rear to get more tension , some rigids were also fitted with overhead canopys my dads mammoth major was , i would imagine that would be quite tricky to rope and sheet
Hi Ramone, Less of the old you cheeky young whippersnapper, what’s this overhead crane bit, most places [in my younger days] you had to roll the bales full length of the trailer 4 high 96 bales then rope and sheet them if you still had any energy left, it’s too easy nowadays imagine being a wagon driver without rough cracked hands.
Les.
Ha ha i knew you`d react , i meant the hoists from the old mills like the ones in this photo not the overhead cranes like Solaglas had ,
They were easy all you had to do was swing them into position or near, without falling of the f—ing trailer, montys out of the slings at Liverpool docks were a nightmare where they dropped they stayed no picking them up again, good old hard days.
Les.
Les you are correct some of the mills in Bradford made very hard work for rear end loading, Quebec packing, Robinson peels,Sir James hills
to name but a few.Talk about roping and sheeting,load in the morning sheet rope up set off to Liverpool or hull sheets of tip re load
rope sheet back home all in the day that is if you got a good tip and turn round.?
Regards Dave
Hi Dave, there were a lot of the wool growers round the country with no cranes or fork trucks back in the day, it was a job of its own you had to get it right first time, cos once it slipped there was no chance of pulling it back, as I said before good old hard days.
Les.
Hi Dennis, Thanks for the seasonal wishes, the same to you and your family. Aye those were the days back in the 60s when all sorts of far fetched but true antics occurred especially at Liverpool Docks where you had to pit your wits against the dockers to get tipped. Nee wonder they moved on to containeriseation for a great variety of reasons. The West ■■■■■■■■ lads delivering Marchon products to the docks were past masters at pulling a fast one on the dockers. Hector Johnston everybody’s marra used to call them everything he could think of to their face yet he always managed to get tipped.
Happy days.
Cheers, Leyland600
MIKE P:
Yes your correct leyland600 rope is no longer to be used according to certain vosa inspectorates due to there being no SWL with rope
utter [zb] i know but this is what were dealing with nowadays
my insurance broker commented to me about one of our loads he saw sheeted and roped and said how unsafe and how we would feel uneasy driving with a load like that
i didnt reply as i can very often offend
Im with you dennis its a saying that still goes about today , yes but you have the right sheets for the job so its easy for you
yeh right
Mike…
I disagree with the comment about rope not having a safe working load. In my old Admiralty Seamanship manuals, formulae for working out the safe working loads for all sizes of rope are given. After all, seamen have been playing about with rope a lot longer than lorry drivers.
we all disagree mate but thats what vosa say who are we to argue ive forgotten more about this job than those guys
BRS FH66:
MIKE P:
Yes your correct leyland600 rope is no longer to be used according to certain vosa inspectorates due to there being no SWL with rope
utter [zb] i know but this is what were dealing with nowadays
my insurance broker commented to me about one of our loads he saw sheeted and roped and said how unsafe and how we would feel uneasy driving with a load like that
i didnt reply as i can very often offend
Im with you dennis its a saying that still goes about today , yes but you have the right sheets for the job so its easy for you
yeh right
Mike…
I disagree with the comment about rope not having a safe working load. In my old Admiralty Seamanship manuals, formulae for working out the safe working loads for all sizes of rope are given. After all, seamen have been playing about with rope a lot longer than lorry drivers.
Mike it would be quite funny to get some new rope tested and have cert in the cab showing the breaking strain / swl in a simular form to that of a lifting strap ,imagine their faces ! There is a firm at Ripley called Catena where we get home made spreader beams tested who could possibly do this .
postman paul:
Hi all,
Not strictly “roping or sheeting”,but i am sure it’s not going to stay on with the help of that strap!
This could be Carlisle Airport site I believe,and that is one of Fast Eddies delivering a load of sand on a flat trailer !!! Now this crack will have “CG” bouncing off the wall I bet !! Bewick.
Cheers Bewick.
I think RWB and HTT were of a similar temprement but Harry used to tell me about some the antics the Boyes lads got up to,one I remember him telling me was that young Alex could make his Trader literally “jump” into the air by shooting forward then smashing it into reverse and it all four wheels left the ground,obviously this was in the days when they were “raj” and probably caused Father Alex no end of headaches and obviously a long while before they finally started to do well after BRS had left the scene in W.■■■■■■■■■■ doubt you know a lot worse eh! 
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