dave docwra:
I agree with everything Carryfast said, but I would still do it the proper way
What could possibly go wrong as you explain to the copper the ropes hold the sheets and the sheets hold the load and he says what load all I can see is a ripped to shreds sheet hanging on the truck. 
You know what, I canât understand why you found it difficult to get a start in transport Carryfast, you wouldâve been an asset to any lorry man with your superior knowledge of all things.
I do wonder how many miles of rope you would need to properly secure a load of cases of tower stacked crates or sacks as you would need to rope over every column of crates or sacks, you would have to have a load of extra hooks welded onto every trailer you pulled, although with that much rope you could probably get away without using a sheet as there would be so much rope over the load it wouldnât get wet if you submerged it.
Bewick:
Carryfast:
Bewick:
Carryfast:
Oh wait.It puts Common Sense and old school practice into language that Richard Heads can understand.So did you read the short concise clear advice related to the use of Sheets ?.So come on pray tell when did you change your name by Deed Poll to âRichard HeadââMatron must have filled the documentation in for you I guess ! Cheers Bewick.
Answer the question Bewick did you read it or not ?.If so write in big capital letters what it said.
F.Y.I. â[zb]â I did start to read the info but very quickly realised it was nothing more than an explanation of the bleeding obvious i.e. COMMON SENSE ! It was so much bollox I really do wonder about the likes of you Pal so much so that if you were offered info on âHow to go to the Bogâ and they missed out the bit that you had to âdrop your kecksâ first what would happen â â ? So when you were walking like John Wayne it would be no good saying âwell the book said nowt about dropping 'me kecks firstâ eh! So who would have to clean that lot up ? [zb] ! Cheers Bewick.
You know Dennis that is exactly how i see this industry now, VOSA men âwell its not in my rule book so i will have to do yaâ no idea of how anything works but rules and rule books a plenty
Mr Carryfast,
Not wanting to sound rude, but how much roping and sheeting did you have to do on your parcel truck and the little tipper you drove for the council?
The phrase âArmchair Haulierâ springs to mind, Thank you
Carryfast:
Bewick:
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A 10ton load of loose Westmorland water worn rockery en route to the S.east so âCFâ can you observe that it is the sheet that is keeping the pieces secure and then the load is roped over for additional security ! Cheers.If you use a sheet in any way to âsecureâ a load itâs a nick for an insecure load whichever side of the Atlantic it is.Bearing in mind that itâs common to either âsecureâ a load without a sheet or without roping/strapping over the sheet.Let alone the silly idea of roping over the sheet but between the load thereby using just the sheet as the only means of securement which weâre talking about here.
ââStraps first then the sheetsââ.Feel free to explain how that works going by your logic.
Let me guess youâll then say that bungees,( or sheet ties ),will do the same job as the straps or ropes in holding the load by just using them to tie down the the sheet over the load.IE the whole bs idea is trashed by the inconvenient fact of un sheeted loads or places where the expected practice is to rope/strap and then just sheet.
Crikey Carryfast, have you ever been closer to a truck than this forum?
If I was asked to tow that trailer in your video, the prime mover would want ambulance tinted windows, so nobody could recognise me!
Some great comments but its like water of a ducks back where thereâs no sense thereâs no feeling. Les
Bloody hell , I could have had that load properly roped , sheeted and halfway there while he was buggering about . I donât know where the font of all knowledge gets his whackey ideas from , but I never had to work with him thank goodness . He seems to try to teach his grandma to â â â â eggs as the saying goes .
As the saying goes " Give a Bloke enough rope and he will hang himself" and The Great Carryfast is defo exhibit No.1 ! Cheers Bewick.
newmercman:
You know what, I canât understand why you found it difficult to get a start in transport Carryfast, you wouldâve been an asset to any lorry man.I do wonder how many miles of rope you would need to properly secure a load of cases of tower stacked crates or sacks as you would need to rope over every column of crates or sacks, you would have to have a load of extra hooks welded onto every trailer you pulled, although with that much rope you could probably get away without using a sheet as there would be so much rope over the load it wouldnât get wet if you submerged it.
As Bewick said Iâm obviously only going by the âcommon senseâ rules which I was taught.But no one said it was going to be easy.Especially in a country where trying to pile an 8 wheeler or even an 8 wheeler and trailer sized load onto a four wheeler seems to have been the default choice from day 1. 
On that note yes with hindsight trying to do whatever it took to emigrate to the âcommon senseâ of NZ or Oz was probably the best option for me.
pete smith:
Mr Carryfast,
Not wanting to sound rude, but how much roping and sheeting did you have to do on your parcel truck and the little tipper you drove for the council?
The phrase âArmchair Haulierâ springs to mind, Thank you
More than enough is the right answer.You seem to have conveniently missed out my time working with a flat drop side 7.5 tonner carrying everything from stillages loaded with truck components to fibre glass tanks made by a large boat building firm.In addition to a considerable time spent on general haulage either using a tilt or a tilt stripped to a flat.In which I always went by the rule only sheet anything if I absolutely had to ( rarely except for paper reels which meant usually ) and if I did a sheet is not meant for anything other than keeping the load dry.As for the council I âactuallyâ mostly drove a Clydesdale multi lift again mostly using a flat body on it for general and plant haulage.
Really canât understand the issue here.Itâs not just some bs personal and incorrect view Iâve got which says that sheets are there to keep the load dry not to hold it on the truck. 
Oh wait Bewick also reckons that a driver can do a weekâs worth of roping and sheeting without using gloves and not end up in A and E needing skin grafts. 
I often wonder how âpoxy pieces of canvasâ with no load bearing capabilities managed to be the main driving force for many thousands of sailing ships carrying millions of tons of shipping around the world for many hundreds of years
Star down under.:
Carryfast:
youtube.com/watch?v=Aoqk2e1zk1ACrikey Carryfast, have you ever been closer to a truck than this forum?
If I was asked to tow that trailer in your video, the prime mover would want ambulance tinted windows, so nobody could recognise me!
To be fair it was more about the question how can the ropes possibly hold the sheet and the sheet hold the load work in places where they rope/strap and sheet,as opposed to sheet and rope/strap,in the literal sense as Bewick views it.
Also bearing in mind the correct advice contained in the NZ guide which I posted and which Bewick said is just old school common sense.At least until I pointed out what it said regarding the use of sheets.
I just watched the video for about 3 minutes or so to where he had fastened the front or back , what a mess the wind would pull that apart in a breath , they have a different way of doing things over there
matamoros:
I often wonder how âpoxy pieces of canvasâ with no load bearing capabilities managed to be the main driving force for many thousands of sailing ships carrying millions of tons of shipping around the world for many hundreds of years
Havenât you ever heard of having to climb into the rigging to reef/furl the sails for a storm.Why was that.
ramone:
they have a different way of doing things over there
Not least the question why donât they rope/strap over the sheets ?.While no answer so far to the question would they even allow the idea of the sheet holds the load the ropes/straps hold the sheet in any way shape or form ?.Iâd guess the NZ rule answers that regardless.
Bewick:
As the saying goes " Give a Bloke enough rope and he will hang himself" and The Great Carryfast is defo exhibit No.1 ! Cheers Bewick.
Hiya,
Dennis, thereâs an Ahâ but here, would the learned gentleman know âwhere
given sufficient ropeâ would know to put the said rope in the correct place
to ensure his speedy demise.
Carryfast:
ramone:
they have a different way of doing things over thereNot least the question why donât they rope/strap over the sheets ?.While no answer so far to the question would they even allow the idea of the sheet holds the load the ropes/straps hold the sheet in any way shape or form ?.Iâd guess the NZ rule answers that regardless.
You obviously have no concept no experience and no idea whatsoever about roping and sheeting dont worry you arenât alone iâm sure plenty on here havenât either mainly because they were born too late to experience it but no matter how many videos you put up or any amount of googling you do you cant bs your way out of this one leave well alone
harry_gill:
Bewick:
As the saying goes " Give a Bloke enough rope and he will hang himself" and The Great Carryfast is defo exhibit No.1 ! Cheers Bewick.Hiya,
Dennis, thereâs an Ahâ but here, would the learned gentleman know âwhere
given sufficient ropeâ would know to put the said rope in the correct place
to ensure his speedy demise.
Hi âHâ I reckon Iâve enough rope left here to âdo the honoursâ and make a noose for âCFâ !! 
Ideally it needs just a few more straps or ropes to contain this lot, yet another driver who thinks that sheets donât retain the load!
Pete.
windrush:
Ideally it needs just a few more straps or ropes to contain this lot, yet another driver who thinks that sheets donât retain the load!0
Pete.
Over to The Great Leatherhead Pillock for further advice !!
