roping and sheeting

Bewick:

ramone:

Bewick:
The bold “CF” is straying onto sacred ground ! :open_mouth: :frowning: When lets face it he probably couldn’t even sheet a bed never mind rope one, well Matron makes his “pit” up every morning when She lets him out of his straight jacket for his Weetee Bangs !! Cheers Bewick.

I would guess he would wear gloves if he ever tried it :wink:

He’d probably borrow a pair of those thin blue rubber ones “ramone” off Matron after she’d used them to check him out for hiding contraband on his person ! :wink: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Cheers Dennis.

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lespullan:

Carryfast:

lespullan:
Well " CF " you recon that sheets do not secure a load, well in your expert opinion how would you secure a load like this, bearing in mind these are wool bales and very greasy, so right we put on the sheets x2 with flaps front and back, tie down the sheets, now what we set of and hope for the best, 100 yds
and most of its on the road, so now question in your expert opinion again should we have roped it as well, and if so would you rope over the bales or
in-between thus pulling the sheet tight on the load, can’t wait for the answer, part two to follow :laughing: Les.
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The photo seems to show exactly what I’ve said.Not a load of bales secured by a sheet roped between each row. :confused:

The photo was meant as an example, and the ropes on it are for shunting purpose only, and my question to you was would you rope the bales or the sheet between the bales, i take it you would rope the bales as the sheet is not required unless its raining, its a good job your not from Bradford as you wouldn’t have got a job anywhere in road haulage, here’s another photo of a Wilsons lorry loaded with wool also roped between the bales over the sheet,even on the gunshot bale at the front the rope is on the sheet not the bale, i cant make it any clearer if you don’t understand don’t reply and maybe you should take up knitting. Les.
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Ha ha :smiley:

lespullan:
The photo was meant as an example, and the ropes on it are for shunting purpose only, and my question to you was would you rope the bales or the sheet between the bales, i take it you would rope the bales as the sheet is not required unless its raining, its a good job your not from Bradford as you wouldn’t have got a job anywhere in road haulage, here’s another photo of a Wilsons lorry loaded with wool also roped between the bales over the sheet,even on the gunshot bale at the front the rope is on the sheet not the bale, i cant make it any clearer if you don’t understand don’t reply and maybe you should take up knitting. Les.
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You’re avin a larf.The photo clearly shows that the bales themselves are roped over the sheets including the front cross IE it’s the ropes that hold the load on not the sheet.That ain’t the same thing as roping between the load using only the sheets to secure it.

As for anyone who thinks it’s ok to use sheets ( or a curtainside ) to ‘secure’ a load I wouldn’t have wanted to work there thanks.Ropes are to secure it sheets,or curtains,are to keep it dry it’s a simple rule and it’s the one which the DVSA goes by now or the Ministry would have gone by then.

Carryfast:

lespullan:
The photo was meant as an example, and the ropes on it are for shunting purpose only, and my question to you was would you rope the bales or the sheet between the bales, i take it you would rope the bales as the sheet is not required unless its raining, its a good job your not from Bradford as you wouldn’t have got a job anywhere in road haulage, here’s another photo of a Wilsons lorry loaded with wool also roped between the bales over the sheet,even on the gunshot bale at the front the rope is on the sheet not the bale, i cant make it any clearer if you don’t understand don’t reply and maybe you should take up knitting. Les.
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You’re avin a larf.The photo clearly shows that the bales themselves are roped over the sheets including the front cross IE it’s the ropes that hold the load on not the sheet.That ain’t the same thing as roping between the load using only the sheets to secure it.

As for anyone who thinks it’s ok to use sheets ( or a curtainside ) to ‘secure’ a load I wouldn’t have wanted to work there thanks.Ropes are to secure it sheets,or curtains,are to keep it dry it’s a simple rule and it’s the one which the DVSA goes by now or the Ministry would have gone by then.

Phew “CF” close one there pal ! thanks for saying that you wouldn’t work for an employer that used “a combination of both sheets and ropes” to keep a load secure as well as dry !!! that would have let Bewick Transport off the hook as a prospective employer for the Great “CF” Wooooo!


Full load of Andrex , in shrink wrap trays, about to leave Bowater Scott Barrow mill ! So “Leatherhead Brain of Britain” you are saying that the sheets have nothing whatsoever to do with keeping the load secure ? The bollox you spout is ■■■■■■■ unbelievable it really is ! Cheers Bewick.


A 10ton load of loose Westmorland water worn rockery en route to the S.east so “CF” can you observe that it is the sheet that is keeping the pieces secure and then the load is roped over for additional security ! Cheers.

Kimberly-Clark up at prudhoe mill same sort of loads Waughs used 2 sheets and 1 bottle sheet (no ropes) :open_mouth: :laughing: but

what ever.i would use waricks and chains to keep that stuff on or load it in a tipper :laughing: :wink:
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ps the bottle sheets had very long bits of string fitted to them. :wink:

Bewick:
Phew “CF” close one there pal ! thanks for saying that you wouldn’t work for an employer that used “a combination of both sheets and ropes” to keep a load secure as well as dry !!! that would have let Bewick Transport off the hook as a prospective employer for the Great “CF” Wooooo!

There’s no such thing as a ‘combination’ of ropes and sheets to both secure and keep the load dry.Ropes are to hold it sheets are to keep it dry.On that note feel free to explain how the idea of roping between the load,thereby using the sheets to secure it,works in places where they literally rope/strap and sheet only as opposed to sheet and rope ?.

newmercman:
As I learned long ago, the sheets hold the load on, the ropes hold the sheet on.

Does that also apply in the case of DOT load securement rules if not why not ?.

bloody hell it isn’t rocket science, the sheet contains the load and the ropes secure it all together… simples

8LXBV8BRIAN:
Kimberly-Clark up at prudhoe mill same sort of loads Waughs used 2 sheets and 1 bottle sheet (no ropes) :open_mouth: :laughing: but

what ever.i would use waricks and chains to keep that stuff on or load it in a tipper :laughing: :wink:
:slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: - :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:
ps the bottle sheets had very long bits of string fitted to them. :wink:

This is a shot of two loads of reels with “bottle” fly sheets. I had them made with rope stitched around the edge then the eylets were over this rope and then you could swing on the ties as they could stand a tight hitch. The loads were still roped over the main sheets though. Only ever had one incidence of a shot load which was caused by bad driving and we hauled 000’s of high loads over many years. Cheers Dennis.

Bewick:
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A 10ton load of loose Westmorland water worn rockery en route to the S.east so “CF” can you observe that it is the sheet that is keeping the pieces secure and then the load is roped over for additional security ! Cheers.

If you use a sheet in any way to ‘secure’ a load it’s a nick for an insecure load whichever side of the Atlantic it is.Bearing in mind that it’s common to either ‘secure’ a load without a sheet or without roping/strapping over the sheet.Let alone the silly idea of roping over the sheet but between the load thereby using just the sheet as the only means of securement which we’re talking about here. :unamused:

‘‘Straps first then the sheets’’.Feel free to explain how that works going by your logic. :bulb: Let me guess you’ll then say that bungees,( or sheet ties ),will do the same job as the straps or ropes in holding the load by just using them to tie down the the sheet over the load.IE the whole bs idea is trashed by the inconvenient fact of un sheeted loads or places where the expected practice is to rope/strap and then just sheet. :unamused:

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Carryfast:

lespullan:
The photo was meant as an example, and the ropes on it are for shunting purpose only, and my question to you was would you rope the bales or the sheet between the bales, i take it you would rope the bales as the sheet is not required unless its raining, its a good job your not from Bradford as you wouldn’t have got a job anywhere in road haulage, here’s another photo of a Wilsons lorry loaded with wool also roped between the bales over the sheet,even on the gunshot bale at the front the rope is on the sheet not the bale, i cant make it any clearer if you don’t understand don’t reply and maybe you should take up knitting. Les.
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You’re avin a larf.The photo clearly shows that the bales themselves are roped over the sheets including the front cross IE it’s the ropes that hold the load on not the sheet.That ain’t the same thing as roping between the load using only the sheets to secure it.

As for anyone who thinks it’s ok to use sheets ( or a curtainside ) to ‘secure’ a load I wouldn’t have wanted to work there thanks.Ropes are to secure it sheets,or curtains,are to keep it dry it’s a simple rule and it’s the one which the DVSA goes by now or the Ministry would have gone by then.

Its a waste of time you cant put back what was left out at birth, and your saying the Bradford wool men were all doing it wrong, OK. Les.

lespullan:

Carryfast:
You’re avin a larf.The photo clearly shows that the bales themselves are roped over the sheets including the front cross IE it’s the ropes that hold the load on not the sheet.That ain’t the same thing as roping between the load using only the sheets to secure it.

As for anyone who thinks it’s ok to use sheets ( or a curtainside ) to ‘secure’ a load I wouldn’t have wanted to work there thanks.Ropes are to secure it sheets,or curtains,are to keep it dry it’s a simple rule and it’s the one which the DVSA goes by now or the Ministry would have gone by then.

Its a waste of time you cant put back what was left out at birth, and your saying the Bradford wool men were all doing it wrong, OK. Les.

No I’m saying they were doing it right it’s you who’s saying they were doing it wrong obviously because you’ve been doing it wrong yourself and judging everyone by the same standards. :unamused:

lespullan:

Carryfast:

lespullan:
The photo was meant as an example, and the ropes on it are for shunting purpose only, and my question to you was would you rope the bales or the sheet between the bales, i take it you would rope the bales as the sheet is not required unless its raining, its a good job your not from Bradford as you wouldn’t have got a job anywhere in road haulage, here’s another photo of a Wilsons lorry loaded with wool also roped between the bales over the sheet,even on the gunshot bale at the front the rope is on the sheet not the bale, i cant make it any clearer if you don’t understand don’t reply and maybe you should take up knitting. Les.
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You’re avin a larf.The photo clearly shows that the bales themselves are roped over the sheets including the front cross IE it’s the ropes that hold the load on not the sheet.That ain’t the same thing as roping between the load using only the sheets to secure it.

As for anyone who thinks it’s ok to use sheets ( or a curtainside ) to ‘secure’ a load I wouldn’t have wanted to work there thanks.Ropes are to secure it sheets,or curtains,are to keep it dry it’s a simple rule and it’s the one which the DVSA goes by now or the Ministry would have gone by then.

Its a waste of time you cant put back what was left out at birth, and your saying the Bradford wool men were all doing it wrong, OK. Les.

The Leatherhead Leper has really bitten off more than even he can chew this time Les ! Cheers Dennis. :wink: :laughing: :laughing:

Bewick:

lespullan:

Carryfast:

lespullan:
The photo was meant as an example, and the ropes on it are for shunting purpose only, and my question to you was would you rope the bales or the sheet between the bales, i take it you would rope the bales as the sheet is not required unless its raining, its a good job your not from Bradford as you wouldn’t have got a job anywhere in road haulage, here’s another photo of a Wilsons lorry loaded with wool also roped between the bales over the sheet,even on the gunshot bale at the front the rope is on the sheet not the bale, i cant make it any clearer if you don’t understand don’t reply and maybe you should take up knitting. Les.
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You’re avin a larf.The photo clearly shows that the bales themselves are roped over the sheets including the front cross IE it’s the ropes that hold the load on not the sheet.That ain’t the same thing as roping between the load using only the sheets to secure it.

As for anyone who thinks it’s ok to use sheets ( or a curtainside ) to ‘secure’ a load I wouldn’t have wanted to work there thanks.Ropes are to secure it sheets,or curtains,are to keep it dry it’s a simple rule and it’s the one which the DVSA goes by now or the Ministry would have gone by then.

Its a waste of time you cant put back what was left out at birth, and your saying the Bradford wool men were all doing it wrong, OK. Les.

The Leatherhead Leper has really bitten off more than even he can chew this time Les ! Cheers Dennis. :wink: :laughing: :laughing:

Oops i’m trying to be polite, :laughing: Les.

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Well Dennis, it looks like the trailer on the left was loaded by the Leatherhead Loon - he’s even signed his initials on the mud flap…

kmills:
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Well Dennis, it looks like the trailer on the left was loaded by the Leatherhead Loon - he’s even signed his initials on the mud flap…

Well spotted “km” !! Now that sure is a reet ■■■■■■■ embarrassment :blush: I wonder if it could be photo shopped !! :wink: Cheers Dennis.

Retired Old ■■■■:
All thanks to that R&S course that you have been avoiding paying for. What is it now, about fifty years? The cheque won’t be in the post, it will have disintegrated by now! Why don’t you bite the bullet and get that nice office girl to send another? Just to be sure, you understand.

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John West:

Retired Old ■■■■:
All thanks to that R&S course that you have been avoiding paying for. What is it now, about fifty years? The cheque won’t be in the post, it will have disintegrated by now! Why don’t you bite the bullet and get that nice office girl to send another? Just to be sure, you understand.

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I’ve tried BACS’ing it John but his Allotment Shed office is circa 1950’s technology only so ■■■■ him , he can whistle for it ! Cheers Dennis.