The only concrete that i ever sheeted was a load of box culverts from West Wales to the North of Scotland Castletown There was no need to sheet but i thought with the boxes being tall and the distance to travel it would be more fuel efficent .It was on a 6wheel Scania p93 loaded to max weight. As for pipes anything from 6 inch to 48 inch diameter was never sheeted just a timber wedge roped at the back of the load and then straps front to back
matamoros:
Pray tell how a load of pipes is safer with a properly tightened sheet than one with just ropes if the sheets have no load restraining capability.
There were/are plenty of loads carried on flats without the need for a sheet including paper reels ‘if’ you could get away with it and kept an eye on the weather forecast. 
As for ‘safer’ it’s never ‘safer’ to use sheets to secure the load in any way shape or form.Also never saw any stillages with canvas sides as opposed to steel mesh.Why is that ?.
Carryfast:
matamoros:
Pray tell how a load of pipes is safer with a properly tightened sheet than one with just ropes if the sheets have no load restraining capability.There were/are plenty of loads carried on flats without the need for a sheet including paper reels ‘if’ you could get away with it and kept an eye on the weather forecast.
As for ‘safer’ it’s never ‘safer’ to use sheets to secure the load in any way shape or form.Also never saw any stillages with canvas sides as opposed to steel mesh.Why is that ?.
Talking Bollox again “CF” ! 
Bewick.
When I worked for BRS Nottingham in the late 1960s we had regularly loads of pipes from Stanton ironworks.We used to throw ropes across the bottom layer and every other layer until the top .These loads were on 40ft.single axle trailers which were fun to handle in places like london.
We also used to carry a lot of tunnel sections on shorter trailers for various points in London when the Jubilee(?)Line was under construction.
Well the only load of pipes I sheeted was a load of Land Tiles or Field Drains I loaded them at Hemingbrough, 11000 of them all hand ball, This was 1969,Regards Larry.
Bewick:
Carryfast:
matamoros:
Pray tell how a load of pipes is safer with a properly tightened sheet than one with just ropes if the sheets have no load restraining capability.There were/are plenty of loads carried on flats without the need for a sheet including paper reels ‘if’ you could get away with it and kept an eye on the weather forecast.
As for ‘safer’ it’s never ‘safer’ to use sheets to secure the load in any way shape or form.Also never saw any stillages with canvas sides as opposed to steel mesh.Why is that ?.
Talking Bollox again “CF” !
- 1 Dennis,load of tripe,as per usual!
David
Bewick:
Carryfast:
matamoros:
Pray tell how a load of pipes is safer with a properly tightened sheet than one with just ropes if the sheets have no load restraining capability.There were/are plenty of loads carried on flats without the need for a sheet including paper reels ‘if’ you could get away with it and kept an eye on the weather forecast.
As for ‘safer’ it’s never ‘safer’ to use sheets to secure the load in any way shape or form.Also never saw any stillages with canvas sides as opposed to steel mesh.Why is that ?.
Talking Bollox again “CF” !
Deffo from experience in all the above Bewick.Can also remember ‘advice’ given out by the ‘ministry’ in the day saying similar.Such as in the case of roping between a load effectively using the sheet to secure it in which case that would be considered a ‘nick’ for an insecure load.
Now awaits someone posting a photo of a canvas sided stillage. 
Well " CF " you recon that sheets do not secure a load, well in your expert opinion how would you secure a load like this, bearing in mind these are wool bales and very greasy, so right we put on the sheets x2 with flaps front and back, tie down the sheets, now what we set of and hope for the best, 100 yds
and most of its on the road, so now question in your expert opinion again should we have roped it as well, and if so would you rope over the bales or
in-between thus pulling the sheet tight on the load, can’t wait for the answer, part two to follow Les.
lespullan:
Well " CF " you recon that sheets do not secure a load, well in your expert opinion how would you secure a load like this, bearing in mind these are wool bales and very greasy, so right we put on the sheets x2 with flaps front and back, tie down the sheets, now what we set of and hope for the best, 100 yds
and most of its on the road, so now question in your expert opinion again should we have roped it as well, and if so would you rope over the bales or
in-between thus pulling the sheet tight on the load, can’t wait for the answer, part two to follow
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It would have to be ratchet straps now Les , not sure how that would work … well it wouldn’t would it p:wink:
The bold “CF” is straying onto sacred ground ! 
When lets face it he probably couldn’t even sheet a bed never mind rope one, well Matron makes his “pit” up every morning when She lets him out of his straight jacket for his Weetee Bangs !! Cheers Bewick.
Bewick:
The bold “CF” is straying onto sacred ground !
I would guess he would wear gloves if he ever tried it
ramone:
Bewick:
The bold “CF” is straying onto sacred ground !I would guess he would wear gloves if he ever tried it
He’d probably borrow a pair of those thin blue rubber ones “ramone” off Matron after she’d used them to check him out for hiding contraband on his person ! Cheers Dennis.
We used sheets to secure 20 tonnes of tarmac in our tipper bodies, ropes on their own wouldn’t have held it.
Pete.
I would have liked to see CF sheet a 12 ft load of loose cycle rims out of Raleigh’s . All cycle parts were exported through Liverpool in separate shipments for obvious reasons . Cycle wheel rims were wrapped in dozens with hessian strips and then stacked loose on the lorry ( thank god I only drove a 4 wheeler then ) The loaders showed me how to stack them properly , but sheeting and roping was up to me . Got them there ok , and then as usual at the docks " Put them over there drive " .
lespullan:
Well " CF " you recon that sheets do not secure a load, well in your expert opinion how would you secure a load like this, bearing in mind these are wool bales and very greasy, so right we put on the sheets x2 with flaps front and back, tie down the sheets, now what we set of and hope for the best, 100 yds
and most of its on the road, so now question in your expert opinion again should we have roped it as well, and if so would you rope over the bales or
in-between thus pulling the sheet tight on the load, can’t wait for the answer, part two to follow
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The photo seems to show exactly what I’ve said.Not a load of bales secured by a sheet roped between each row. 
As I learned long ago, the sheets hold the load on, the ropes hold the sheet on. I always roped in the valley between pallets, drums, etc. The sheet acts as a corner board.
When I worked out of Sarsons Vinegar SE1, I used to cart around those plastic 45gal drums with 40gals of pickling vinegar in them, if you didn’t rope between each row and pull the sheet drum tight they would slide off, trust me, no matter how good your barrel hitch was, they would be rolling down Jamaica Rd after you went around the roundabout by Rose’s Cafe.
I roped sacks in exactly the same way and being young, I drove around like my arse was on fire, never had a load move, despite my best efforts and my sheets were so tight even Lord Smiff would’ve been proud of it.
Carryfast:
lespullan:
Well " CF " you recon that sheets do not secure a load, well in your expert opinion how would you secure a load like this, bearing in mind these are wool bales and very greasy, so right we put on the sheets x2 with flaps front and back, tie down the sheets, now what we set of and hope for the best, 100 yds
and most of its on the road, so now question in your expert opinion again should we have roped it as well, and if so would you rope over the bales or
in-between thus pulling the sheet tight on the load, can’t wait for the answer, part two to followThe photo seems to show exactly what I’ve said.Not a load of bales secured by a sheet roped between each row.
The photo was meant as an example, and the ropes on it are for shunting purpose only, and my question to you was would you rope the bales or the sheet between the bales, i take it you would rope the bales as the sheet is not required unless its raining, its a good job your not from Bradford as you wouldn’t have got a job anywhere in road haulage, here’s another photo of a Wilsons lorry loaded with wool also roped between the bales over the sheet,even on the gunshot bale at the front the rope is on the sheet not the bale, i cant make it any clearer if you don’t understand don’t reply and maybe you should take up knitting. Les.
Those of us that have done it understand perfectly , those that haven’t will never understand , just make silly comments gleaned from the almighty google .
All thanks to that R&S course that you have been avoiding paying for. What is it now, about fifty years? The cheque won’t be in the post, it will have disintegrated by now! Why don’t you bite the bullet and get that nice office girl to send another? Just to be sure, you understand.