Bewick:
What are the blue trailers behind, Dennis?
John.
John West:
Bewick:
What are the blue trailers behind, Dennis?
John.
The immediate vehicle behind the tri axle John was The Westmorland and North Lancs Pidgeon Racing Fed TK which parked in our yards for years ! The blue Tautliner further on was a hire trailer IIRC. Cheers Dennis.
Bewick:
John West:
Bewick:
What are the blue trailers behind, Dennis?
John.
The immediate vehicle behind the tri axle John was The Westmorland and North Lancs Pidgeon Racing Fed TK which parked in our yards for years ! The blue Tautliner further on was a hire trailer IIRC. Cheers Dennis.
I bet that motor could catch pigeons Dennis!! 
Regards Kev.
kevmac47:
Bewick:
John West:
Bewick:
What are the blue trailers behind, Dennis?
John.
The immediate vehicle behind the tri axle John was The Westmorland and North Lancs Pidgeon Racing Fed TK which parked in our yards for years ! The blue Tautliner further on was a hire trailer IIRC. Cheers Dennis.
I bet that motor could catch pigeons Dennis!!
Give owa thats a Ena Sharples with rope 
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And you would be surprised how dry these loads were kept with just the net over them Kev. Cheers Dennis.
Bewick:
And you would be surprised how dry these loads were kept with just the net over them Kev. Cheers Dennis.
Iam sure we’ve seen that trailer before ?
Punchy Dan:
Bewick:
And you would be surprised how dry these loads were kept with just the net over them Kev. Cheers Dennis.Iam sure we’ve seen that trailer before ?
Just one of the many '100’s of loads of “baled trim” we hauled back to the East Lancs in Radcliffe Dan’l from the Bowater / Rexam plants in the UK and very profitable it was too ! But I think you would have to have put your entire fleet onto that same job “twice” to move the same load on that trailere so the economics wouldn’t have worked Eh! 
Dennis.
Bewick:
And you would be surprised how dry these loads were kept with just the net over them Kev. Cheers Dennis.
Agreed. We hauled freshly harvested onions in bulk tipping trailers from Herefordshire to Lincs. If you used a sheet the load would sweat , which was guaranteed to upset the customer’s inspector so we found that the load would be kept almost completely dry using just a net. As long as you were moving the water droplets tended to be blown down the length of the trailer.
nerd alert
Whilst at TRUCK Magazine I did a bit of research into the effects of different trailers on mpg and it was found that a brick net made a huge improvement over a bare load as the little holes filled with low pressure air and the net effectively became a sheet.
The biggest improvement in mpg came from sheeting an empty tipper, which was hardly a shock.
I used nets on bricks afore the days of cling filming em. Leic,s to Scotch n they would be clean as a whistle, which is more than you could say for me after taking off/putting on.
Had ■■■■■■■ on that job think it did 6mpg, I seem to remember.If I,d known at that time when gaffer were moaning bout fuel I could have said "but think what it would be without nets! " I can,t begin to imagine his reply but bet there,d be a few with 4 letters in it
pete smith:
Morning Dennis,
Found you a good one at last, even the motor’s top notch! Cheer’s Pete
Here is another Guard Bridge Leyland a Top Notch Motor.
Well roped and sheeted as well.
Scotnat:
pete smith:
Morning Dennis,
Found you a good one at last, even the motor’s top notch! Cheer’s PeteHere is another Guard Bridge Leyland a Top Notch Motor.
Well roped and sheeted as well.0
Great shot Pete ! of a great no long gone Paper Mill, I wonder if the Beaver was a “two peddler” ? Guard Bridge were a quality paper maker in their day making fine printings and writing papers. They must have commanded premium prices as I recall that when I worked at James Cropper’s mill near Kendal ( another fine Mill) when I left school one of the Cropper MG machines used to make a regular order of Duplex wrapper ( Grey MG on top and blue underneath) for Guard Bridge which they used to wrap their product in. Usually mills made their own wrappers using low quality waste and recycled broke but this grade made by Croppers was top quality gear at full price, Guard Bridge’s three paper making machines were of the Fordrinier type and therefore couldn’t make this type of wrapper which they required. Useless information ,I know, but someone may find it of interest eh! Cheers Dennis.
Hi Dennis and scotsnat, here are some more Guard Bridge examples of roping and sheeting…
Cheers, Leyland 600.
Good old all Leyland fleet there Gerald ! But I don’t like to see that Octopus Grille on 2130 FG fully muffed up tut! tut! Cheers Dennis.
Bewick:
Good old all Leyland fleet there Gerald ! But I don’t like to see that Octopus Grille on 2130 FG fully muffed up tut! tut! Cheers Dennis.
Guard Bridge had a very good Leyland fleet as the photographs posted on here show.
As for the ■■■■ Bewick I am sure when the engine warmed up he would open them and
let the air in.
Drivers at one time used all sorts to cover the rad to warm the engine and some lorries
had proper ones like the ones in the photographs.
I seem to remember some Atkinsons had metal venetian type Rad blinds that opened and shut
with a temperature control valve my memory is not great so please correct me if I wrong.
Scotnat:
Bewick:
Good old all Leyland fleet there Gerald ! But I don’t like to see that Octopus Grille on 2130 FG fully muffed up tut! tut! Cheers Dennis.Guard Bridge had a very good Leyland fleet as the photographs posted on here show.
As for the ■■■■ Bewick I am sure when the engine warmed up he would open them and
let the air in.
Drivers at one time used all sorts to cover the rad to warm the engine and some lorries
had proper ones like the ones in the photographs.
I seem to remember some Atkinsons had metal venetian type Rad blinds that opened and shut
with a temperature control valve my memory is not great so please correct me if I wrong.
Hiya Scotnat ! No I never reckoned nor did I allow our Atkis to be muffed up externally ! But your comment about the rad blinds on the Atkis is correct, our first three new Borderers I had fitted with Kysor shutters and then I changed to Dynair thermo fans on the later ones and the “A” Series ERF’s. The main reason I dropped the Kysor shutters was I heard that a number of similar Borderers had incurred radiator damage because of the “pull” of the fan on the radiator when the shutter closed ! Cheers Bewick.
Bewick:
Scotnat:
Bewick:
Good old all Leyland fleet there Gerald ! But I don’t like to see that Octopus Grille on 2130 FG fully muffed up tut! tut! Cheers Dennis.Guard Bridge had a very good Leyland fleet as the photographs posted on here show.
As for the ■■■■ Bewick I am sure when the engine warmed up he would open them and
let the air in.
Drivers at one time used all sorts to cover the rad to warm the engine and some lorries
had proper ones like the ones in the photographs.
I seem to remember some Atkinsons had metal venetian type Rad blinds that opened and shut
with a temperature control valve my memory is not great so please correct me if I wrong.Hiya Scotnat ! No I never reckoned nor did I allow our Atkis to be muffed up externally ! But your comment about the rad blinds on the Atkis is correct, our first three new Borderers I had fitted with Kysor shutters and then I changed to Dynair thermo fans on the later ones and the “A” Series ERF’s. The main reason I dropped the Kysor shutters was I heard that a number of similar Borderers had incurred radiator damage because of the “pull” of the fan on the radiator when the shutter closed ! Cheers Bewick.
None of the ■■■■■■■ engined Atki’s I drove ever needed to be muffled up in the winter. When I got a new motor in 1973’ (NTY683M) I always made sure that the heater valve was opened fully, then I turned it back slightly, as from past experience if it was left fully open it would seize up. Then you weren’t boiling your nuts up all summer long. 
Regards Kev.
I had Kysor shutters fitted firstly to my ERF 66GX six wheeler where I immediately gained just short of 2 miles per gallon more which included lots of stationary time driving the blower for discharging the load. When blowing the shutter could be seen to open and close frequently but did so slowly thus keeping the engine temperature fairly even, it did help to keep me a little warmer in winter. I had them fitted to both S 80 and S 83 Fodens where they worked much the same. Always a good investment I thought.
Cheers, Leyland 600
Bewick:
Scotnat:
pete smith:
Morning Dennis,
Found you a good one at last, even the motor’s top notch! Cheer’s PeteHere is another Guard Bridge Leyland a Top Notch Motor.
Well roped and sheeted as well.0
Great shot Pete ! of a great no long gone Paper Mill, I wonder if the Beaver was a “two peddler” ? Guard Bridge were a quality paper maker in their day making fine printings and writing papers. They must have commanded premium prices as I recall that when I worked at James Cropper’s mill near Kendal ( another fine Mill) when I left school one of the Cropper MG machines used to make a regular order of Duplex wrapper ( Grey MG on top and blue underneath) for Guard Bridge which they used to wrap their product in. Usually mills made their own wrappers using low quality waste and recycled broke but this grade made by Croppers was top quality gear at full price, Guard Bridge’s three paper making machines were of the Fordrinier type and therefore couldn’t make this type of wrapper which they required. Useless information ,I know, but someone may find it of interest eh! Cheers Dennis.
Hello Dennis, yes looks like a “Two-pedal” Beaver, they usually had the wider front mudguards as on AEC and Albion Ergo-cabbed lorries. The “normal” Beavers and other Ergo-cabbed Leylands had narrow front mudguards.
Bewick:
Punchy Dan:
Bewick:
And you would be surprised how dry these loads were kept with just the net over them Kev. Cheers Dennis.Iam sure we’ve seen that trailer before ?
Just one of the many '100’s of loads of “baled trim” we hauled back to the East Lancs in Radcliffe Dan’l from the Bowater / Rexam plants in the UK and very profitable it was too ! But I think you would have to have put your entire fleet onto that same job “twice” to move the same load on that trailere so the economics wouldn’t have worked Eh!
My dad carried similar loads and believe me his boss didnt want to keep the load dry , they were paid on weight and even though sometimes they got a weight reduction most of the time they got away with it , they had to be sheeted because the load blew about but the sheets werent up to much