Leyland600:
Hi Dennis, I have no record of a Trader registered VAO ■■■ but AHBs 1st would be URM 577 new 09/01/58 until 13/08/59 then YRM 387 was acquired 13/08/59 until 29/04/64. RWs Reiver was 649 KRM new 25/03/64. YRM 720 J was William’s D 750 cattle wagon.
Cheers,
Leyland 600
Long time ago Gerald eh! I’m wondering if the VAO ■■? Trader was possibly Mumbersons who had a new Trader medium wheelbase tipper at about that time. YRM 287 lasted a long time so it must have been a goodun’ to stand the punishment it would have got off AHB, unless big brother and ADB gave him a good “talking to” ! Cheers Dennis.
Hi Dennis I remember one day all three of us went to Liverpool with dock traffic then loaded back for home with various goods cant remember what, however the norm would have been run down departing about 2-00 am then departing on the return journey when reloaded regardless of time often about 5pm after wasting most of the day fighting with (zb) dockers. at this particular time there was talk of a ministry crack down on ■■■■■■■■ cowboys so we had to stay atthe Mayfield that night to make it look legal. Up early next morning RW and myself had breakfast AHB wold not get out of bed, we were told to “go away” or words to that effect " I will soon catch up with you both" Coming into Kendal on the Princes Way he shot past us both like a rocket and we certainly had not hung about, needless to say he was back in West ■■■■■■■ first and wanted to know where the hell we had been. ? I think it was the YRM Trader he had that day. RW was driving he Reiver and I had my BMC FHK 140.
Cheers, Leyland 600
Aye you certainly were a rum set of lads out of W. ■■■■■■■ in the day ! So come on Gerald, how come you chose a BMC and not a Trader ? I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall in the various cafe’s when you were discussing sorry, arguing, about the merits of the two different motors with the two Ireby lads ! Did your motor have an eaton two speed axle ? well that should have given you the edge over the 4 speed Trader eh! Cheers Dennis.
The BMC SHOULD have been fitted with a five speed gearbox (overdrive 'box optional) and a two speed back end Dennis, though again that was also an option on the five tonners but standard on the sevens along with power steering. Excellent performers, they would out pull most other vehicles in their class but suffered with overheating problems initially until the cross-flow radiator design was changed. They were just a nightmare to work on compared to the FFK’s with the vertical engine, the start of my back problems removing the cylinder head and pistons and liners from under the wheelarch and don’t even mention the three piece sump!!!
Dennis.The BMC had a 5 speed box with two speed axle and was a good reliable motor for me, I had a Dodge 304 at the same time with a Perkins 6.354 which was a nightmare, I sold the Dodge and bought a Trader off our mutual friend Norman D which turned out to be little better than the Dodge. Eventuall I sold them both and bought a Foden S21 8 wheeler with a Gardner 6LW which did an awfull lot of work and was very reliable.
Cheers Leyland 600
Leyland600:
Dennis.The BMC had a 5 speed box with two speed axle and was a good reliable motor for me, I had a Dodge 304 at the same time with a Perkins 6.354 which was a nightmare, I sold the Dodge and bought a Trader off our mutual friend Norman D which turned out to be little better than the Dodge. Eventuall I sold them both and bought a Foden S21 8 wheeler with a Gardner 6LW which did an awfull lot of work and was very reliable.
Cheers Leyland 600
Sounds like the BMC was a decent motor Gerald, did it have P/steering and what length of flat did you have ? Where did you source the main of your traffic from out west, did you have to sub off BRS at Howgate same as the Ireby lads. Questions questions I know, but interesting one never the less Cheers Dennis.
Retired Old ■■■■:
As I recall, companies like Tayforth, Caledonian and BRS were excluded from the normal requirements of R&S.
Why would these companies be excluded from R & S ?.
As this thread is about roping & sheeting not about companies.
That is my view right or wrong stand to be corrected if wrong.
Retired Old ■■■■:
As I recall, companies like Tayforth, Caledonian and BRS were excluded from the normal requirements of R&S.
Why would these companies be excluded from R & S ?.
As this thread is about roping & sheeting not about companies.
That is my view right or wrong stand to be corrected if wrong.
They were also exempt form other expensive running costs such as Road Tax and fleet insurance not to mention access to the bottomless pit of free gratis public money or the necessity to try and make a profit, which they didn’t, even with all the advantages I have previously stated. Then finally the nationalised companies were flogged off to their employees and management for about 1% of their true worth ! disgusting ! Bewick.
Retired Old ■■■■:
As I recall, companies like Tayforth, Caledonian and BRS were excluded from the normal requirements of R&S.
Why would these companies be excluded from R & S ?.
As this thread is about roping & sheeting not about companies.
That is my view right or wrong stand to be corrected if wrong.
They were also exempt form other expensive running costs such as Road Tax and fleet insurance not to mention access to the bottomless pit of free gratis public money or the necessity to try and make a profit, which they didn’t, even with all the advantages I have previously stated. Then finally the nationalised companies were flogged off to their employees and management for about 1% of their true worth ! disgusting ! Bewick.
Even if all you have said in your post is true.
All nationalised companies were a drain on the public ■■■■■.
Like the National Coal Board, British Rail etc.
However the drivers that worked for the BRS etc worked for a weekly wage
as did drivers with other companies and were equally skilled at Roping & Sheeting a load.
It is always worth remembering all Transport companies were nationalised at one time.
No I never worked for the BRS
But it was not for the lack of trying at the Edinburgh Depots in the 60s
Retired Old ■■■■:
As I recall, companies like Tayforth, Caledonian and BRS were excluded from the normal requirements of R&S.
Why would these companies be excluded from R & S ?.
As this thread is about roping & sheeting not about companies.
That is my view right or wrong stand to be corrected if wrong.
You’ve got hold of the wrong end of the stick mate ! ROF was just having the “craic” and taking the ■■■■ as is his wont, you have to have a good sense of humour if you venture onto this thread as there is no such thing as PC on here ! Sorry Bewick.
Retired Old ■■■■:
As I recall, companies like Tayforth, Caledonian and BRS were excluded from the normal requirements of R&S.
Why would these companies be excluded from R & S ?.
As this thread is about roping & sheeting not about companies.
That is my view right or wrong stand to be corrected if wrong.
Your first answer to the above post Bewick:
(1) They were also exempt form other expensive running costs such as Road Tax and fleet insurance not to mention access to the bottomless pit of free gratis public money or the necessity to try and make a profit, which they didn’t, even with all the advantages I have previously stated. Then finally the nationalised companies were flogged off to their employees and management for about 1% of their true worth ! disgusting ! Bewick.
Your second answer to the above post Bewick:
(2) You’ve got hold of the wrong end of the stick mate ! ROF was just having the “craic” and taking the ■■■■ as is his wont, you have to have a good sense of humour if you venture onto this thread as there is no such thing as PC on here ! Sorry Bewick.
I read your first answer/post as a man who had serious misgivings about British Road Services.
I did and still do think that ROF was serious and had read in the past that companies like
Tayforth, Caledonian and BRS were excluded from the normal requirements of R&S.
Which I think is wrong and said as much.
However I will ignore posts from ROF in the future if his posts are as you say all about “Taking the ■■■■”
Calm down. lad. I’m a former BRS driver myself- this is my way of winding up young Bewick, who built up a sizeable fleet through his own hard work and that of his excellent drivers. Bewick’s lorries were well-known for being turned out in first-class order, including PERFECT roping & sheeting, which is why it is such a joy to “have a pop” at him. All taken in good part by everyone on this thread, I can assure you.
Sorry if my somewhat caustic sense of humour has offended you, pal. Purely unintentional, so you’ll have to forgive us- most of us are complete nutters on this thread (and the rest of us are practising!)
Hi ROF and Kevmac, if either of you are thinking of going back on the road driving general haulage and want to maintain your roping and sheeting skills how about one of these little motors operating on the Isle of Capri. No marker boards required, I think I quite fancy tearing round those narrow streets and roads with a variety of loads, being in the EU will I need a tachograph and a drivers CPC ■■
Cheers Leyland 600.
Retired Old ■■■■:
Calm down. lad. I’m a former BRS driver myself- this is my way of winding up young Bewick, who built up a sizeable fleet through his own hard work and that of his excellent drivers. Bewick’s lorries were well-known for being turned out in first-class order, including PERFECT roping & sheeting, which is why it is such a joy to “have a pop” at him. All taken in good part by everyone on this thread, I can assure you.
Sorry if my somewhat caustic sense of humour has offended you, pal. Purely unintentional, so you’ll have to forgive us- most of us are complete nutters on this thread (and the rest of us are practising!)
Retired Old ■■■■:
Calm down. lad. I’m a former BRS driver myself- this is my way of winding up young Bewick, who built up a sizeable fleet through his own hard work and that of his excellent drivers. Bewick’s lorries were well-known for being turned out in first-class order, including PERFECT roping & sheeting, which is why it is such a joy to “have a pop” at him. All taken in good part by everyone on this thread, I can assure you.
Sorry if my somewhat caustic sense of humour has offended you, pal. Purely unintentional, so you’ll have to forgive us- most of us are complete nutters on this thread (and the rest of us are practising!)
about the merits of the two different motors with the two Ireby lads ! Did your motor have an eaton two speed axle ? well that should have given you the edge over the 4 speed Trader eh! Cheers Dennis.
