voc-hoc:
no s-j am going to do the home study as the sit in a while price also two weeks pay wud be lost. thats true what dieseldave said as i got hold of a home pack a while back then got a look through a 2011 transport operator book and saw a good few changes.
Hi voc-hoc,
You’ve just identified another ‘lag’ in the system.
In the the real world, there’s usually some ‘lead-in’ time for when a new law takes effect, but it’s different for CPC…
OCR takes a ‘snapshot’ then the exams are based on that snapshot.
A switched-on provider will know which version of the student notes belong with which exam.
I have to say (very generally) that some of the home-study providers are out of step with this, as are the students who buy last year’s notes at a knock down price on eBay.
When I taught CPC, I lost count of the number of people who ended up in my classroom for tuition after multiple fails on homestudy.
Often, those guys would bring their notes in the thought that it was the self-study part that had led to their downfall, when the real blame lay with out of date student notes. Some of those notes were unbelievably out of date. Of course, there were also those who had the right notes, but were unable to focus on their studies whilst having various distractions at home.
Mrs Javelin tested me last night with 42 multi choice questions set by EOS on mods 2,3 and 4 and I got 88% not bad to say I have not read the notes since Wednesday last week and I knew nothing the week before.
Spam-Javelin:
Mrs Javelin tested me last night with 42 multi choice questions set by EOS on mods 2,3 and 4 and I got 88% not bad to say I have not read the notes since Wednesday last week and I knew nothing the week before.
It’s the case study that’s the difficult part. Although there are changes to the CPC this year, this is the type of examination you will have.
ocr.org.uk/download/pp_11/oc … t4_dec.pdf
Harry Monk:
Spam-Javelin:
Mrs Javelin tested me last night with 42 multi choice questions set by EOS on mods 2,3 and 4 and I got 88% not bad to say I have not read the notes since Wednesday last week and I knew nothing the week before.
It’s the case study that’s the difficult part. Although there are changes to the CPC this year, this is the type of examination you will have.
ocr.org.uk/download/pp_11/oc … t4_dec.pdf
Cheers for that 
i understand that’ll be the deciding factor in a pass or fail and i will be working extremely hard at taking in and retaining the information I read. I have no GCSE’s and to pass this to me means so much more than silly GCSE’s I can take the pass cert to my old head teacher and stick it in his pipe.
Forgot to add, here’s the scenario associated with the above paper.
ocr.org.uk/download/prm/ocr_ … ber_11.pdf
Be aware that is a very difficult exam, it is level 3 which means it is the equivalent of an A level.
Harry Monk:
Forgot to add, here’s the scenario associated with the above paper.
ocr.org.uk/download/prm/ocr_ … ber_11.pdf
Be aware that is a very difficult exam, it is level 3 which means it is the equivalent of an A level.
Yeah I’m aware of the level of exam and think I’m intelligent enough to pass it, I was just a bit of a rebel whilst at school and never actually turned up to any of my exams.
Thanks again for the info
I’m struggling on the finance side at the moment and differentiating between P+L trading and alike
One bit of advice I’d give is that even if you can’t afford the time or money to do the course, try to get on the study day which is held on the day before the exams, our trainers were excellent at anticipating the questions which would arise on exam day and we virtually did a dummy run of the exam the day before we took it.
I have Harry i was in all week last week and the week before. I go back on Thursday for a recap day then exam on the Friday.
The finance side i struggle on is the idea for the seperate accounts i.e. Trading and PL and such. When you are taught costing per vehicle per job (km’s/tonnage/day) then you have to seperate them down once more to cost of sales and re add the overheads. IT all seems back to front to me in a normal situation you would have one complete account sheet, or at least where i have ever managed you do!
The major issue i have had with the study course is:-
The content relevance
The sample question relevance
The subjective nature of the questioning
The elusive questioning in the sample questions (which they where supposed to be removing for the new combined qualification)
Spacemonkeypg:
I have Harry i was in all week last week and the week before. I go back on Thursday for a recap day then exam on the Friday.
The finance side i struggle on is the idea for the seperate accounts i.e. Trading and PL and such. When you are taught costing per vehicle per job (km’s/tonnage/day) then you have to seperate them down once more to cost of sales and re add the overheads. IT all seems back to front to me in a normal situation you would have one complete account sheet, or at least where i have ever managed you do!
The major issue i have had with the study course is:-
The content relevance
The sample question relevance
The subjective nature of the questioning
The elusive questioning in the sample questions (which they where supposed to be removing for the new combined qualification)
You’ve hit a few of the reasons why I didn’t like teaching it, and why I eventually stopped teaching it. 
Was going to ask why you didn’t teach it anymore now I know thanks.
Spam-Javelin:
Was going to ask why you didn’t teach it anymore now I know thanks.
Hi S - J,
I wouldn’t have minded you asking.
I gave up teaching it because (IMHO) CPC lacks precision and is too wooly, but please don’t let my comment put you off.
Now we’re back to my earlier comment about the required depth and taking nothing out and putting nothing in, and it’s because of the way that the syllabus and exams are constructed.
CPC is what it is, and I’m afraid that it really is best for anybody learning it to take it ‘on rails’ exactly as it is.
Your EOS notes will stand you in good stead, but it’s also going to be a case of learning how OCR wants the exam questions answered. Also as I mentioned earlier, please don’t look too deeply at any of the modules, because you’ll end up burying yourself in irrelevance and eventually losing sight of the target.
There are so many elements that are concerned with a business study course its unreal.
Who in their right mind decided KPI’S, Marketing, Company formations, Requirements of company formations, Company financing, Business conduct and union relations where needed for such a qualification?
Thats before the ambiguity of the questions lol
Ah well, exams tomorrow, good luck to everybody!
Spacemonkey, make sure you understand exactly what is required to form a limited company, there always seem to be a fairly high-scoring question about it.
Been in today for some more revision and it’s got to be said the multi choice is what im more worried about.
I’m unsure as to why they feel its needed to ask questions in a deliberately miss leading way. There are questions which rather than testing your knowledge of a subject deliberately attempt to miss lead your comprehension. Which i think is out of order to be honest.
There is a choice of four answers to this question. BUT we have attempted to confused the hell out of you with useless miss information in the question best of luck
You’ve probably been told this but the way to tackle the multiple choice is to make a quick sweep through the paper, answering any questions where you are 100% sure of the answer, then go back and go through it again answering questions you think you know but are not 100% certain about, and keep repeating until you get to the questions you just do not know at all.
Quite often there are only two of the four answers that could plausibly be right, so you have a 50% chance even if you pick from those two at random.
Quick update, re-sat my own International CPC exam this afternoon. The questions were far more favourable than last time, plus I have been able to devote a lot of revision time to it, so I am going to tempt fate and say I have probably passed.
I think i can happily say i passed the multi choice part today.
But the case study threw me. Not because i didnt know any of it, i knew it all without needing to cross reference to any written material. The issue i had was it took so much time, i was pressed to get it all done.
One question was Identify illegal parts and non company policy parts to this running schedule
One was in regards to a company structure and drawing the lines and stuff.
One was benefits of certain elements offered when purchasing new vehicles, stuff like cruise control, air deflecters blah blah blah.
One was cost a run, nice and easy (time consuming though)
One was ten points to cover ffor tyre checks on a daily and reasons for it.
Sounds simple but it took time to complete i finished the multi choice with 1hr 30mine left. I didnt finish the case study
One other thing is i could not get a definitive answer to when we would get the results back.
Spacemonkeypg,
you are not from Liverpool are you… can you explain your comment please?