RM drivers this time

peterm:
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Yep, don’t sound like England. What is it with these [zb] and their affected gangsta accents?

Sounds very much like England to me, especially London.

He should have styled it out and said ‘’ i am bring the vehicle to a controlled stop because if i stop too quickly the car will most likely roll over’’ :smiley:

Professional lorry drivers not being put in a good light this week with this and the b&q lorry. As others have said how can he not have realised for that long? As professional drivers we can’t just keep blaming everything on blind spots. Blind spots aren’t that big. In fact they are actually pretty small if you check all your mirrors properly and other vehicles don’t end up being in the blind spot for very long. Plus on this you’d have thought there would have been sound on initial impact? A change in sound from the engine with the extra load of pushing a car sideways? And then the tyre screech sound? And he noticed non of that?

“Blind Spots” - my arse.

In this day where “Driving whilst tired” is now treated as seriously as “drink/drug driving”, WHO is going to admit to just being “plain tired” after making what amounts to a simple mis-judgement or momentary lack of concentration for any reason whatsoever…?

“I didn’t see him” is a better defence, “Damage Limitation” - I strongly suggest.
Even I wouldn’t be saying “Aw Gee Officer, I was nodding-dog tired at the wheel there, and just made a mistake - that’s all”
How many night workers might be “burning the candle at both ends” across weekends in particular?
Better to lose one’s job rather than actually be prosecuted and lose your entire livlihood in any case.

It is damned easy to be “rather tired” at the end of a RM shift where you’ve just dropped your parcel force trailer off at an LD somewhere in West London, and are now returning in your solo cab to PRDC at Stonebridge Park to complete your night shift duty… The traffic would seem to be definitely “am”, but doesn’t look anywhere near busy enough to be mid-week rush hour, so I’m thinking this footage was shot at the weekend, around 11am. The agency pay structure of RM these days is that you no longer get paid extra to work weekends, it is a flat rate of £19.48ph for ANY night shift the last time I worked there in March this year. This would discourage “agency cover” for what amounts to weekend 318’s - wouldn’t it?

The guy is clearly a full timer, and clearly local, so it won’t have anything to do with “ignorance of the local roads” I suggest.

Just putting my CSI hat on today. :neutral_face:

Happened to my mate a few years back - he’s only a little guy and he was driving a leftdrive DAF unit and trailer - at some traffic lights in West London a bloke in a Carlton decided to use the right turn only lane to get a jump on his truck whilst going straight on, he cut in too quick, my mate collected him spun him broadside and pushed him across the the dual carriageway to the other side. My friend had no idea, just thought the old lorry was a bit slow for some reason - it was only when pedestrians started waving their arms about he stopped.

Plod arrived - no problem, crack on drive. Bloke in Carlton given a roasting for trying to be clever dickie.

I might be biased but I reckon 95% of these situations are caused by car drivers too busy trying to do choppy changey between the lanes.

Socketset:
Happened to my mate a few years back - he’s only a little guy and he was driving a leftdrive DAF unit and trailer - at some traffic lights in West London a bloke in a Carlton decided to use the right turn only lane to get a jump on his truck whilst going straight on, he cut in too quick, my mate collected him spun him broadside and pushed him across the the dual carriageway to the other side. My friend had no idea, just thought the old lorry was a bit slow for some reason - it was only when pedestrians started waving their arms about he stopped.

Plod arrived - no problem, crack on drive. Bloke in Carlton given a roasting for trying to be clever dickie.

I might be biased but I reckon 95% of these situations are caused by car drivers too busy trying to do choppy changey between the lanes.

Doesn’t matter who it’s caused by, professional drivers should be more aware of what’s going on around them particularly in busy traffic and be able to plan, anticipate, and react to what idiot car drivers do.

Classic example: we are on a motorway going down to one lane. We’ve already passed all the 800, 600, 400, 200 yard marker boards and we are at the point where the cones come across the lanes. We see in our mirror some idiot in an Audi is still approaching down the side of us and isn’t slowing down. Do we crack on and either let them crash into us or let them plough into the cones? Or for what it’s worth do we brake a bit and just let them safely in front? I know which we all want to do. But why? What’s the point? We can anticipate what they are going to do and it’s therefore easy to react to that and make a small adjustment to prevent an accident regardless of whether the crash would have been their fault.

I see your point Rowley but when it’s not even lunchtime and it’s the fourth Audi that’s cut you up it gets a bit tiresome :smiley: :smiley:

Socketset:
I see your point Rowley but when it’s not even lunchtime and it’s the fourth Audi that’s cut you up it gets a bit tiresome :smiley: :smiley:

I know. And I’m the same myself. With what I said do as I say not as I do :laughing: :smiley:

What did Rambo used to say?

“You’re the disease and I’m the cure” but I don’t think some Audi drivers are curable :smiley: :smiley:

yourhavingalarf:
For some reason…

Or other, some drivers don’t seem to see cars wedged under their front number plate.

If you look around on Ytube there are dozens of videos of this happening. There was one here in the UK a few years ago when an Arclid DAF drove for ages with a Renault wedged in front him.

It seems incredible to me that some people can’t see a car right in front of them.

It happened to me,you can not see them once they are at that angle. But you do no some think ain’t right when you hear the noise

yourhavingalarf:
For some reason…

Or other, some drivers don’t seem to see cars wedged under their front number plate.

If you look around on Ytube there are dozens of videos of this happening. There was one here in the UK a few years ago when an Arclid DAF drove for ages with a Renault wedged in front him.

It seems incredible to me that some people can’t see a car right in front of them.

Next time you park up in your yard park your car like it, get in cab and look

Winseer:
Returning to Stonebridge Park (PRDC) by the looks of it…

There’s a downward-mirror on the windscreen, so unless this drive hasn’t done their blue-paper wipe-off of mirrors and reflectives at the start of the shift, there’s no excuses for not being able to clearly see a whole car across the front - is there?

I suppose it’s a good job he wasn’t towing a double decker trailer, bearing in mind if you miss the turn-off at hangar lane - you’re taking a 16’4" through a 16’0" underpass there on the A40…

What reason would he have to be checking that mirror on the A40 .no kittens walking in front of him

malcolmgbell:

Winseer:
Returning to Stonebridge Park (PRDC) by the looks of it…

There’s a downward-mirror on the windscreen, so unless this drive hasn’t done their blue-paper wipe-off of mirrors and reflectives at the start of the shift, there’s no excuses for not being able to clearly see a whole car across the front - is there?

I suppose it’s a good job he wasn’t towing a double decker trailer, bearing in mind if you miss the turn-off at hangar lane - you’re taking a 16’4" through a 16’0" underpass there on the A40…

What reason would he have to be checking that mirror on the A40 .no kittens walking in front of him

If you felt even the slightest tap upon kiss-contacting the car, and wrapping it sideways across the front… Don’t you think a driver would instinctively think “What was that?” and glance at ALL of their mirrors in quick succession, including the silly mirrors?

Chances are, the car flew out of a on-slip at an almost indentical speed to the tractor (40mph there). It is December and cold, so if he had his windows wound up, perhaps he didn’t then hear the tyres screeching without actually having to be deaf not to hear them?

Rowley010:
Do we crack on and either let them crash into us or let them plough into the cones?

Yes. Sometimes people need taught a lesson the hard way.
And Ill bet they never do it again either

The-Snowman:

Rowley010:
Do we crack on and either let them crash into us or let them plough into the cones?

Yes. Sometimes people need taught a lesson the hard way.
And Ill bet they never do it again either

Ha ha, I wouldn’t bank on it. There’s no accounting for the monumental stupidity of some.

peterm:

The-Snowman:

Rowley010:
Do we crack on and either let them crash into us or let them plough into the cones?

Yes. Sometimes people need taught a lesson the hard way.
And Ill bet they never do it again either

Ha ha, I wouldn’t bank on it. There’s no accounting for the monumental stupidity of some.

Let’s consider that they’ll never do it again - with the same driver at least. :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp:

I use that stretch of A40 regularly, and they come barreling up the Greenford slip, and just keep going, no stopping, indications are optional,
I would assume the golf did exactly that, straight up and out, whoops bang.

Rowley010:
Doesn’t matter who it’s caused by, professional drivers should be more aware of what’s going on around them particularly in busy traffic and be able to plan, anticipate, and react to what idiot car drivers do.

Quite so. RM driver should have been aware of the car’s presence close to his unit in the moments leading up to what we see in the video. If it suddenly disappears then he should be wondering where has it gone and be looking for it. Also, I find it difficult to believe that the front end of the Golf couldn’t be seen. He must have had the radio on loud and window closed not to hear an impact or the screeching tyres. Why did the Golf driver not sound his horn?

old mate did the push through on a old type mini at a set o lights when we first got bonneted Maggies deutzs he was loaded and thought the wagon was crap at accelerating away from the lights ,the old biddy was slow at moving off at green and just jammed the brakes on when he started pushing. The local police just let the insurance sort it out and we all got a reminder to sit back from cars at lights :smiley:

I just found out (accidentally) the guy in the car is one Adam (or Jack? idk, not sure) from a popular youtube channel (CarThrottle). Here’s a video where he talks about it but doesn’t really give many details

youtube.com/watch?v=HmUKljBlrdI

What a small world, eh