Great: My place now insists via training documentation and threat posters, etc, that - in addition to putting the brakes on - we are also required to remove keys from the ignition during hook-ups & drop-offs.
And they ââŚwill be checkingâŚâ us
Assuming that anyone takes the blindest bit of notice, weâll be unable to:
a) Have the benefit of the deck light - for which they wonât issue a torch or
b) Properly check our brake-lights on the bay because it will now be futile to jam a brush handle or similar under the brake pedal to directly see their working function.
As far as many of us are aware, nothing un-safe has occurred to directly prompt this, so is it safe progress or the work of an office bound numb-nut
Happy Keith:
Great: My place now insists via training documentation and threat posters, etc, that - in addition to putting the brakes on - we are also required to remove keys from the ignition during hook-ups & drop-offs.
And they ââŚwill be checkingâŚâ us
Assuming that anyone takes the blindest bit of notice, weâll be unable to:
a) Have the benefit of the deck light - for which they wonât issue a torch or
b) Properly check our brake-lights on the bay because it will now be futile to jam a brush handle or similar under the brake pedal to directly see their working function.
As far as many of us are aware, nothing un-safe has occurred to directly prompt this, so is it safe progress or the work of an office bound numb-nut
Er, i think you will find that removing the keys is always good practice! Havenât you learnt anything on your dcpc?
All the lights work with the ignition off, and as for checking the brake lights? Thatâs always a hard one any way!
I have always removed the keys whilst working on the catwalk. If you leave the engine running one day some idiot could jump in the cab and drive off with you hanging on for dear life.
I switch the ignition on to check the brake lights but then I am not on the catwalk.
Weâre asked to remove keys when doing most things simply to âtake chargeâ of the truck while weâre not in the cab. For your own safety itâs a sensible thing to do.
One issue we have is that the engine has to running while we tip so we just have 2 keys so we can lock the cab, alternatively just buy a decent head torch for a few quid!
If we followed the latest fashion fad of the day, which changes like the weather anyway, weâd never get a bloody thing done, handbrake always on obviously during hook up*** and let it tick over, handy to let the air in the trailer build up whilst youâre doing the rest of the job, if you worked at a lunatic asylum where one of the inmates was likely to jump in and do his worst whilst you were tyre checking i could understand the problem, but please.
***this latest advice is probably to coincide with the latest Renos (no doubt others will follow or already do this), which according to one poster here whoâs driven one says the toytown parking brake is automatically applied when the ignition turned offâŚre-arrange down job dumb the again.
Why canât these buggers let blokes who have been doing the job for generations without a moments problem just get on with their work, instead of poking their worthless noses into things they donât actually have to do in the real world.
Sod me, hurry up time i want to retire before me bloody head explodes.
Juddian:
if you worked at a lunatic asylum where one of the inmates was likely to jump in and do his worst whilst you were tyre checking i could understand the problem, but please.
So no one has stolen a car whilst the driver left it with the engine running.
The real world is full of idiots, just read some of the things that are witnessed by people on this forum.
We have the same policy. Even as far as having to lock the cab while youâre walking round. Silly thing is that all of our sites are secure.
The catwalk light does work with the ignition off but you canât check your rear fogs or brake lights. Luckily we do have little convex mirrors in the yard which you can park in front of to check they work.
Juddian:
if you worked at a lunatic asylum where one of the inmates was likely to jump in and do his worst whilst you were tyre checking i could understand the problem, but please.
So no one has stolen a car whilst the driver left it with the engine running.
The real world is full of idiots, just read some of the things that are witnessed by people on this forum.
I assumed this was about the usual sort of trailer changes on proper premises, not in run down public places with baseball hatted chavs wandering about.
Yes the cat walk light MIGHT NOT WORK near miss it and refuse the vehicle until they have them wired to come on at least on the side lights.
If they refuse VOR the vehicle and refuse it they are making the policy and as your unable to use the working light the vehicle will be deemed US⌠all you have to do is repeatedly defect it⌠until they say yes it will be altered.
nick2008:
Always been good practice to have keys removed .
Yes the cat walk light MIGHT NOT WORK near miss it and refuse the vehicle until they have them wired to come on at least on the side lights.
If they refuse VOR the vehicle and refuse it they are making the policy and as your unable to use the working light the vehicle will be deemed US⌠all you have to do is repeatedly defect it⌠until they say yes it will be altered.
I have never understood the logic of wiring the light through the ignition. Wire it through the sidelights with a warning light on the dashboard.
nick2008:
Always been good practice to have keys removed .
Yes the cat walk light MIGHT NOT WORK near miss it and refuse the vehicle until they have them wired to come on at least on the side lights.
If they refuse VOR the vehicle and refuse it they are making the policy and as your unable to use the working light the vehicle will be deemed US⌠all you have to do is repeatedly defect it⌠until they say yes it will be altered.
I have never understood the logic of wiring the light through the ignition. Wire it through the sidelights with a warning light on the dashboard.
I never take the keys out but the engine is always off (for fuel bonus), we have a mirrored piece of metsl in the yard and as your leaving your supposed to check the lights on the trailer.
Always take the keys out personally. Have done so for longer than I care to remember tbh.
Not only that but if you drive a Volvo or Renault(& probably other makes too) itâs always sdvisable unless you have either left the window open or you have a spare key handy as theyâre devils for locking themselvesâŚ
Juddian:
If we followed the latest fashion fad of the day, which changes like the weather anyway, weâd never get a bloody thing done, handbrake always on obviously during hook up*** and let it tick over, handy to let the air in the trailer build up whilst youâre doing the rest of the job, if you worked at a lunatic asylum where one of the inmates was likely to jump in and do his worst whilst you were tyre checking i could understand the problem, but please
I disagree with keeping the engine running when connecting the electric leads, the ABS in particular. Was told that the electric âspikesâ can mess with the electronics and my experience of using both engine running (flat batteries) and engine not running does support this.
- we are also required to remove keys from the ignition during hook-ups & drop-offs.
