Wardaddy:
No, he’s been replaced by someone who eats river fish for dinner and shares a broom cupboard with two other people, willing to work for a pittance.
If they want to work for nothing or thereabouts, I suggest they wash cars in a boarded up service station.
So if you were in a poorer country, struggling to find work, yet able to LEGALLY go to another and work, you’d stay at home and starve?
Of course you wouldn’t, you would go to that country and do the best you could.
Don’t blame the people, blame the system and politicians…
Well I don’t help make the situation worse by having my car washed by these people. Anyway they’re not poor and starving. Two words used far too often. Look at this country where someone in poverty tends to be someone who has to pawn their Ipad or unable to fund a Sky subscription.
The point is that EVERYONE will try to better themselves!
So if you were the one in the poorer country, I bet you would go where you thought your prospects were better…
I’m not saying don’t be ■■■■■■ about the situation, just be ■■■■■■ at the system and don’t take your anger and frustration out on the individuals!
Wardaddy:
No, he’s been replaced by someone who eats river fish for dinner and shares a broom cupboard with two other people, willing to work for a pittance.
If they want to work for nothing or thereabouts, I suggest they wash cars in a boarded up service station.
It’s just what us Brits done in the 80s mate …chasing the Dutch Gilders which were more lucrative on an hourly rate than the Brit Pound so what’s the difference exactly, apart from the fish and cupboard bit??
muckles:
If you’ve been on holiday since this driver was taken on, how come you’ve been able to talk to him for long enough to know about his previous experience and rate of pay?
Because he was with me for two days before my holiday and I had to show him what to do, I was even warned by one of drivers that I was probably doing myself out of a job. His inexperience became very clear when he took 25 minutes to put the first trailer on the bay with a Terberg tug
Now I’m not really blaming the Lithuanian as he is simply looking for a better standard of living just the same as we all are. In fact I have no right to blame him as my son has done the same, lives and works in Poland. It is the system I blame which allows a foreigner to come to this country and take our jobs at almost half the wages we are being paid.
muckles:
If you’ve been on holiday since this driver was taken on, how come you’ve been able to talk to him for long enough to know about his previous experience and rate of pay?
Because he was with me for two days before my holiday and I had to show him what to do, I was even warned by one of drivers that I was probably doing myself out of a job. His inexperience became very clear when he took 25 minutes to put the first trailer on the bay with a Terberg tug
robroy:
Paying him £7.50 an hour, and creaming off their usual bit…, plus the remainder of what they were originally paying you, don’t you just love agencies
Don’t blame the Lithuanian guy mate, he’s only a pawn in their game, it’s the [zb] bag agency you should have the problem with, [zb] ing parasites the lot of em.
btw. The Monkey is on a roll tonight, you’ll get NO sympathy there
I once had a job driving a 7.5-tonner, delivering packaging for a now deceased company in New Malden, through an agency which is also now deceased. It was quite a nice job, involving a lot of trips out to Kent and Hampshire – nowhere very far, but it got me out of London (sometimes). I had it from October or November 2002 to March 2003.
Then I went to Ireland for a week for a family wedding, and I thought I’d had the company bosses’ assurance that the job was mine when I got back. They of course got a replacement from the agency, and when I got back from Ireland I discovered they’d just replaced me with him. The yard supervisor said “oh, we don’t let agency drivers get their feet under the table”. I was out of work for months after that.
The moral of the story: Don’t take actual “holidays” when working agency
This only happened to me once… When I lost my paper round when I was a teenager - to the holiday relief.
One could also consider grassing said supermarket firm up to their own insurers… They’ll take a pretty dim view of it - replacing an experienced shunter with a complete unknown… Watch what happens when said Lithuanian on £7.50ph trashes his first tug…
Winseer:
One could also consider grassing said supermarket firm up to their own insurers… They’ll take a pretty dim view of it - replacing an experienced shunter with a complete unknown… Watch what happens when said Lithuanian on £7.50ph trashes his first tug…
They don’t have insurer’s, they are self insuring which also helps to explain why the previous shunter only had a car licence, he was a lad who worked in the freezer warehouse and shunted the trailers around when needed.
Agency liar will not have told the place you were working that they are switching you for the other guy. They will be supplying the new guy at the same £X per hour and increasing their profit. So the company is paying the same per hour but getting a lower quality driver. Agency will have lied to company about your availability. Creating the situation.
I simply went into the customer to download my tacho (find lost hat or other plausible lie). They ask if you are OK, you give them the yes but not working much story. They will soon join the dots, or if they are a bit thick you can help. Once they realise what the agency is up to questions will be asked. Helps if replacement is making a mess of the job and costing them money. Every TM likes to think they are the agencies number one priority once they realise they are not they soon switch.
Agent loses work. You probably won’t get back in but at least the agent loses his commission.
Solution to this is getting a decent agent. Well they are all scum but at least one who has some honesty.
Dolph:
Yeahhhh, its not the agency and its greedy British boss fault, but the EE migrant.
I feel sorry for the author but the title is wrong, you have been replaced because of human greed(British, Lithuanian doesn’t matter) regardless of safety record, experience, language knowledge etc.
No, he’s been replaced by someone who eats river fish for dinner and shares a broom cupboard with two other people, willing to work for a pittance.
If they want to work for nothing or thereabouts, I suggest they wash cars in a boarded up service station.
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Wardaddy:
No, he’s been replaced by someone who eats river fish for dinner and shares a broom cupboard with two other people, willing to work for a pittance.
If they want to work for nothing or thereabouts, I suggest they wash cars in a boarded up service station.
At the end of the day the companies have the funds to pay these trumped up agency rates. Only folk making decent money are those that run the agencies.
Should be outlawed in my opinion, limited to a maximum period of time before a permanent contract is required. Maybe then the cash that goes into the agencies could be used to bump up our rates of pay. At the end of the day, there isn’t really much incentive to be an employed driver, the arse has fallen out of being an OD, you can’t blame these folk for wanting to make a fast buck, regardless of nationality, so we should have them legislated out of the business.
muckles:
If you’ve been on holiday since this driver was taken on, how come you’ve been able to talk to him for long enough to know about his previous experience and rate of pay?
Because he was with me for two days before my holiday and I had to show him what to do, I was even warned by one of drivers that I was probably doing myself out of a job. His inexperience became very clear when he took 25 minutes to put the first trailer on the bay with a Terberg tug
Now I’m not really blaming the Lithuanian as he is simply looking for a better standard of living just the same as we all are. In fact I have no right to blame him as my son has done the same, lives and works in Poland. It is the system I blame which allows a foreigner to come to this country and take our jobs at almost half the wages we are being paid.
As Sorry as i am for You,i have to point out that it is British Law. It was also Britain with Germany,France,Benelux and one or two more who introduced this as EU-Regulation.
I also have to point out that we were welcome till the Polish flooded the Country.
I dont recommend to go on the Road and punch the next Polish into his Face, but , Its them,that they overtook the Country a similar Way as Hitler overtook Poland. “Organiced by a Gang”,and not one by one as we did.
Same happens now with Romanian. Just read last in the Sun that is only there Passport Romanian. (reporting to a Lad with Brown Skin and a £100000.- Mercedes! as i have seen when i stopped at a Red Light here in Hatfield)
Anywhy. You need a Job. All other is secondary,and may not help You
Wardaddy:
No, he’s been replaced by someone who eats river fish for dinner and shares a broom cupboard with two other people, willing to work for a pittance.
If they want to work for nothing or thereabouts, I suggest they wash cars in a boarded up service station.
It’s just what us Brits done in the 80s mate …chasing the Dutch Gilders which were more lucrative on an hourly rate than the Brit Pound so what’s the difference exactly, apart from the fish and cupboard bit??
+1
in the 60 s all the paddys were kipping along edgeware road building the m1…is the 80 s it was auf weiderschen pet and all the brits were doing the same in Germany etc…and now its over here that is getting slaughtered 10 times worse because the government lets them in to decimate rates of pay. the carwashes are money laundering same as taxi companies and sunbed shops for the druggies. if I could get 5 times my normal wage,id be driving around Poland right now,not spending a penny and comeing home a few years later with a wedge.you cant blame the ones working,its the parasites and pregnant parasites including the ones that are using them to claim fortunes that are the worst.that includes the poor beggars whose job it is to collect money from uk suckers who think they are helping them…
muckles:
If you’ve been on holiday since this driver was taken on, how come you’ve been able to talk to him for long enough to know about his previous experience and rate of pay?
Because he was with me for two days before my holiday and I had to show him what to do, I was even warned by one of drivers that I was probably doing myself out of a job. His inexperience became very clear when he took 25 minutes to put the first trailer on the bay with a Terberg tug
Now I’m not really blaming the Lithuanian as he is simply looking for a better standard of living just the same as we all are. In fact I have no right to blame him as my son has done the same, lives and works in Poland. It is the system I blame which allows a foreigner to come to this country and take our jobs at almost half the wages we are being paid.
As Sorry as i am for You,i have to point out that it is British Law. It was also Britain with Germany,France,Benelux and one or two more who introduced this as EU-Regulation. I also have to point out that we were welcome till the Polish flooded the Country.
I dont recommend to go on the Road and punch the next Polish into his Face, but , Its them,that they overtook the Country a similar Way as Hitler overtook Poland. “Organiced by a Gang”,and not one by one as we did.
Same happens now with Romanian. Just read last in the Sun that is only there Passport Romanian. (reporting to a Lad with Brown Skin and a £100000.- Mercedes! as i have seen when i stopped at a Red Light here in Hatfield)
Anywhy. You need a Job. All other is secondary,and may not help You
Its UK Government fault all along. For example in 2004 UK didn’'t impose restriction, even though it had absolute legal right under EU law to impose up to 7 year ban on EE worker. France, Germany and many more did it. Instead UK and Ireland were the only countries that open their labor markets for Polish citizens immediately. Well what the hell UK expected…
Sorry pal but to compare Polish immigration to UK with Hitler devastation of Poland it utter BS.
muckles:
If you’ve been on holiday since this driver was taken on, how come you’ve been able to talk to him for long enough to know about his previous experience and rate of pay?
Because he was with me for two days before my holiday and I had to show him what to do, I was even warned by one of drivers that I was probably doing myself out of a job. His inexperience became very clear when he took 25 minutes to put the first trailer on the bay with a Terberg tug
Now I’m not really blaming the Lithuanian as he is simply looking for a better standard of living just the same as we all are. In fact I have no right to blame him as my son has done the same, lives and works in Poland. It is the system I blame which allows a foreigner to come to this country and take our jobs at almost half the wages we are being paid.
As Sorry as i am for You,i have to point out that it is British Law. It was also Britain with Germany,France,Benelux and one or two more who introduced this as EU-Regulation. I also have to point out that we were welcome till the Polish flooded the Country.
I dont recommend to go on the Road and punch the next Polish into his Face, but , Its them,that they overtook the Country a similar Way as Hitler overtook Poland. “Organiced by a Gang”,and not one by one as we did.
Same happens now with Romanian. Just read last in the Sun that is only there Passport Romanian. (reporting to a Lad with Brown Skin and a £100000.- Mercedes! as i have seen when i stopped at a Red Light here in Hatfield)
Anywhy. You need a Job. All other is secondary,and may not help You
Its UK Government fault all along. For example in 2004 UK didn’'t impose restriction, even though it had absolute legal right under EU law to impose up to 7 year ban on EE worker. France, Germany and many more did it. Instead UK and Ireland were the only countries that open their labor markets for Polish citizens immediately. Well what the hell UK expected…
Sorry pal but to compare Polish immigration to UK with Hitler devastation of Poland it utter BS.
should never had been allowed…■■■■ the labour party…I’d never vote for that shower ov ■■■■■ every again…for what they’ve caused in my ■■■■■■■ country…do I care about how poor the ee block was …no I don’t. …the sooner we r out ov the eu the better in my eyes …have a good day
which were more lucrative on an hourly rate than the Brit Pound 
