God drowned everyone in the flood.He had the right to do this because the world was full of corruption.
I hear a lot of people say that God hates the sin but loves the sinner but the account of the flood disproves this.God hates the sin and hates the sinner too.
The world we live in is so corrupt,we should be asking why God doesnt destroy the world again but in His mercy,He is still allowing us more time to change things.
Zac_A:
Rob might not have that info to hand.
You’ve made a better job of showing up all this crap to what it really is than I could mate anyhow. 
Tbh all this sh that this guy is spouting and indeed the guy himself 
is starting to get on my ■■■■ if I’m honest, he’s ■■■■ relentless on all this.
I’ve always had an aversion and a low tolerance to these terminally brainwashed types,.so I’ve lasted quite well with him I reckon.
I reck I’ll just call it a day for a while, …well until he really annoys me again.next time anyway… 
You know what?
I’m starting to think I’ll get a reply soon along the lines of…
‘‘Had you there Rob you daft ■■■■’’
and him identifying himself as one of my mates having a laugh.
I’d like to think that nobody could be that gullible, naive,.and brainwashed, but sadly they are out there among us.
A couple of years ago, I went to a funeral for a workmate. He was religious but never spouted it or tried to convert people: that’s why I got on with him.
The funeral was in a church and that was OK by me and I sat there until the bloke up front started to tell us how he’d now gone to heaven his meet his family and friends who were waiting for him… that’s when I walked out. Like others on here, I don’t believe in fairy tales.
Peterm.
Do you believe all of matter follows the laws of physics?
And if you do,does it apply to our brain cells?
And if it does,doesnt that mean we have no control over our actions and thoughts…because our minds are just simply following the laws of physics
Sploom:
ROG:
Not read the whole thread but here is my viewI have no problem with anyone believing something as long as they know the difference between BELIEF and FACT
The issues seems to arise when those with a belief think their belief is fact
So do you belive in God then…
No religious beliefs at all
I choose to stick with facts/logic/common sense
ROG.
I believe God spoke everything into existance,which I guess sounds incredulous but its more unbelievable for me to think everything just appeared from nowhere.
What do you think of my question about the laws of physics and the brain cells…
Sploom:
ROG.
I believe God spoke everything into existance,which I guess sounds incredulous but its more unbelievable for me to think everything just appeared from nowhere.
What do you think of my question about the laws of physics and the brain cells…
I have no problem with your belief as long as you dont push that onto anyone else including offspring and know the difference between belief and fact
Sploom:
Most of those verses are from the Old Testament befote Jesus came with the new covenant.They show the result of man’s rebellion against God.
Oh no you don’t! You said you go strictly by the scriptures, the whole kit and kaboodle is “The Word of [your] God”, you didn’t say anything about “Strictly by the bits of the scripture I like and ■■■■■■■■ to the other bits”
but a woman should submit to her husband…
yes,he has authority over his wife,but he is duty bound not to misuse that authority,so its not a problem.
What a bunch of misogynistic, retarded medieval garbage.
Sploom:
God drowned everyone in the flood.
Apart from the Australian aboriginals, the south american nations, especially those living high up the slopes of the Andes, the Inuits etc etc.
Why did some of the animals have to die? Were they evil? And if so, what about the evil ducks and other waterfowl who simply floated on the surface? And what about the evil fish? How could you put top predators (Tigers, Lions etc) on a boat with a ready stocked larder of prey and have anything left at the end of the trip?
Of all the fairy stories in your book, The Flood is probably THE funniest. Eddie Izzard agrees
People waste too much time making base Faith “Complicated”.
What Non-believers dislike the most about Believers is the “Hard Sell” aspect of Religion…
Perhaps it is best to pull back, and treat one’s faith like the Last Lifeboat off the Titanic:-
… The Believer just jumps in, the Non-believer - worries where it might be going, and hesitates long enough for someone else to ■■■■■■ that last spot instead…
Believers think we’re going to see a third to a half world population die-back by the end of this decade…
Non Believers realize that we’re going to see a 100% decline in population of those alive today - by the end of this century.
Question to BOTH sides is: “Wot you gonna do in the meantime?”
Sploom:
But,heres a thing for atheists,you believe all matter follows the laws of physics,right?
So you have all this matter that makes up the human brain.All the atoms in the brain have to follow the laws of physics.That rules out any freedom of choice because our brain has to follow the laws of physics.It cant have any output from its own personal choice.
People who are seriously religious are, by definition, too ill-equipped to understand scientific arguments.
Consciousness is a highly complex sector of neuroscience. Here’s a guy who is regularly promoted as one of the chief advocates of scientific understanding of consciousness.
anilseth.com/
Zac_A:
but a woman should submit to her husband…
yes,he has authority over his wife,but he is duty bound not to misuse that authority,so its not a problem.What a bunch of misogynistic, retarded medieval garbage.
Nope. I disagree.
Women should be subservient to men at all times. Wives should obey husbands.
My wife will agree to that too.
(If I ever find one)
Zac_A:
Sploom:
But,heres a thing for atheists,you believe all matter follows the laws of physics,right?
So you have all this matter that makes up the human brain.All the atoms in the brain have to follow the laws of physics.That rules out any freedom of choice because our brain has to follow the laws of physics.It cant have any output from its own personal choice.People who are seriously religious are, by definition, too ill-equipped to understand scientific arguments.
Consciousness is a highly complex sector of neuroscience. Here’s a guy who is regularly promoted as one of the chief advocates of scientific understanding of consciousness.
anilseth.com/
Its a bit complicated to undetstand.If I was able to ,maybe I wouldnt be driving a truck.
Maybe you can help explain.
Sploom:
Peterm.
Do you believe all of matter follows the laws of physics?
And if you do,does it apply to our brain cells?
And if it does,doesnt that mean we have no control over our actions and thoughts…because our minds are just simply following the laws of physics
Physics doesn`t follow the laws of conventional physics.
The Universe is not a clockwork machine set up and following a (very complex) path.
We do not exist in a deterministic Universe.
There is no interventionist God.
Can we fully understand what is around us? No.
It is a good thing to seek knowledge and understanding, but we will never know everything.
For those who are unhappy about that state of affairs we have religion (in all the broadest sense of that idea) and conspiracy theories.
Zac_a
People who are seriously religious are, by definition, too ill-equipped to understand scientific arguments.
Who are you to say this?
Are there not Christian surgeons,physicists,engineers,teachers,and other professionals who achieved more than we did?
Would you,as a trucker,make such a remark to one of them if you met them?
Zac_A
Oh no you don’t! You said you go strictly by the scriptures, the whole kit and kaboodle is “The Word of [your] God”, you didn’t say anything about “Strictly by the bits of the scripture I like and ■■■■■■■■ to the other bits”
I do follow the book but not everything in the book applies today.But that doesnt mean it isnt the truth.
God gave Moses the law,but they couldnt keep the law,so He sent His Son instead.That did away with the old covenant
Franglais.
Physics behaves differently at the subatomic level,sure I get that.I read that book by Stephen Hawkings,a brief history of time,good read actually.
But at the same time,I cant believe human conciense can exist without a designer.
I was flicking through channels on tv today, and came across a discussion about qualities of life, which touched on different religions, and religious fanatics…
One bloke, who was non religious, made a good point that made me think of this thread.
He said you only get one life so you should fit everything you can into it and enjoy it…because this is it,.an average 70 or so years .
Then he said,.I feel sorry for these who feel the need to turn to some religion or another for reassurance, purely because of a fear of dying,.especially the ones who spend far too much time of that one life worrying about ‘the next one’.
They spend most of it in their devotion to their religion, thus depriving themselves of normal and usually enjoyable things and activities that non religious people do , basically only in order to qualify for that mythical afterlife…
And then time catches up before they know it, and they die, after living a restricted and limited quality of life.
He then joked, I could say they will.then get a shock when they discover there is no afterlife., …But they actually wont get any shock at all, as they will know nothing about it.
Yes,there are people like this.Monks and nuns are the first thing that comes to mind.But its not me.I have as good a quality of life as I could imagine having as a non believer,or better because I dont have that fear of death any more.Thats taken care of now.
And meeting brothers and sisters in Christ every Sunday and get to play my keyboard on the worship team.Its wonderful.Then we have felliwship with one another over a meal .Its brilliant.
No restritions on what we do.
Dont fear death? Ive been cured of cancer twice thanks to the NHS.
I already stared down the barrel of that death and yes,it scared the ■■■■ out of me,more than I could ever imagine was possible.But only for a short time.
I just prayed to God for peace.Ive never looked back,never a care in the world since then
Why do you think that God chose to give you cancer? Were you perhaps a sinner and fully deserving of it?