Dipper_Dave:
Bloody hell this thread moves fast I had a choking ones chicken whimsey that’s now mute.
It is one of my threads D_D, fast moving, cutting edge and now just waiting for the usual slagging off to happen!! Any time now I can see me saying ■■■■ off or something similar 
UKtramp:
Dipper_Dave:
Bloody hell this thread moves fast I had a choking ones chicken whimsey that’s now mute.It is one of my threads D_D, fast moving, cutting edge and now just waiting for the usual slagging off to happen!! Any time now I can see me saying [zb] off or something similar
Keep going UKt, like tachograph I’ve learnt life saving info about wind socks. I googled my earlier answer to be honest…
Dipper_Dave:
UKtramp:
Dipper_Dave:
Bloody hell this thread moves fast I had a choking ones chicken whimsey that’s now mute.It is one of my threads D_D, fast moving, cutting edge and now just waiting for the usual slagging off to happen!! Any time now I can see me saying [zb] off or something similar
Keep going UKt, like tachograph I’ve learnt life saving info about wind socks. I googled my earlier answer to be honest…
Well if I have saved two lives that’s been well worth it, also I am happy that tachograph found one of my fans from my youtube days which only reinforces my refrigeration background that no one believed before. So win win from this thread.
UKtramp:
NB12:
[Yes USA, China, Australia maybe even still using it but a big no no in Europe. F-Gas laws are policed contractors have been fined a lot of money for being in breach of these laws, there are a few systems still running away issue free on R22 but when they break down they are [zb]. Really A/C or fridge it doesn’t matter what it’s for it’s still a banned substance.
I agree with what you are saying as R22 is old hat anyway, AC would have been replaced well before the cut off date as it is cheaper to replace than repair anyway. Industrial plant of R22 can still be used providing you don’t need to break into the system to repair it, the cut off date for these systems to utilise reclaimed R22 was 1st Jan 2015. These are still in use and no law prevents them from being repaired or used providing it is in good maintained condition. There are still contractors topping these up as it is impossible to say when a leak had occurred if at all. A repair to these systems goes on, the ethical point is that some cold stores and blast freezer plants would wait until they break down irreparable then shut down as they cannot afford to replace them, the whole drop in refrigerant is a joke on these systems as they will more likely be too old to bother, but the costs of replacement to some stores would not be viable, its like running an old car into the ground.
I would imagine most industrial sites would of planned ahead of the phase out and carried out a refrigerant change to something like 422D long before they got caught out, I also would think most of this plant would have been stripped out and replaced by now. This really is old news now though, the upcoming phase out of R404a is a much more immediate concern with the price having increased approx 300% in the last 12 months.
Maybe many more if some officious idiot tries to direct a driver into the direction of the windsock when there’s an ammonia leak. Me I’ll be like fork you mate I’m off in the opposite direction as fast as my firm muscular legs can carry me…
NB12:
UKtramp:
NB12:
[Yes USA, China, Australia maybe even still using it but a big no no in Europe. F-Gas laws are policed contractors have been fined a lot of money for being in breach of these laws, there are a few systems still running away issue free on R22 but when they break down they are [zb]. Really A/C or fridge it doesn’t matter what it’s for it’s still a banned substance.
I agree with what you are saying as R22 is old hat anyway, AC would have been replaced well before the cut off date as it is cheaper to replace than repair anyway. Industrial plant of R22 can still be used providing you don’t need to break into the system to repair it, the cut off date for these systems to utilise reclaimed R22 was 1st Jan 2015. These are still in use and no law prevents them from being repaired or used providing it is in good maintained condition. There are still contractors topping these up as it is impossible to say when a leak had occurred if at all. A repair to these systems goes on, the ethical point is that some cold stores and blast freezer plants would wait until they break down irreparable then shut down as they cannot afford to replace them, the whole drop in refrigerant is a joke on these systems as they will more likely be too old to bother, but the costs of replacement to some stores would not be viable, its like running an old car into the ground.
I would imagine most industrial sites would of planned ahead of the phase out and carried out a refrigerant change to something like 422D long before they got caught out, I also would think most of this plant would have been stripped out and replaced by now. This really is old news now though, the upcoming phase out of R404a is a much more immediate concern with the price having increased approx 300% in the last 12 months.
If we all had hind sight imagine how much we could make, just buy stocks of gas and sell it on.
Dipper_Dave:
Maybe many more if some officious idiot tries to direct a driver into the direction of the windsock when there’s an ammonia leak. Me I’ll be like fork you mate I’m off in the opposite direction as fast as my firm muscular legs can carry me…
It would be advisable D_D, I wouldn’t be stood in a que waiting for my name to be ticked off a list by a H&S idiot with a clip board. I have been involved in a fair amount of ammonia incidents where listening to them would get you killed.
UKtramp:
James the cat:
Never mind all this Mr encyclopaedia. Months later and you still haven’t answered my egg question. Switchlogic answered it. Some help you are. All theory and no spade work, can’t even help a man with his groceries. I call Fraud I tells ya, fraud!!!What egg question?
Which came first? 
I too have learned something today, possibly re-learned after forgetting! The wind sock is so simple yet effective, if the wind is blowing! There was a fatality somewhere this year involving an escape of ammonia but for the life of me I can’t remember where it was. Good work UKt. I personally am interested in hearing more from you. I have to say though I’ve had several belly laughs reading this thread! 
TiredAndEmotional:
I too have learned something today, possibly re-learned after forgetting! The wind sock is so simple yet effective, if the wind is blowing! There was a fatality somewhere this year involving an escape of ammonia but for the life of me I can’t remember where it was. Good work UKt. I personally am interested in hearing more from you. I have to say though I’ve had several belly laughs reading this thread!
Glad you have enjoyed it, I am sure you can see the dangers lurkin at every corner of refrigeration, it is a dangerous job but someone has to do it. Being a fridge man is a lot like being in the SAS, if we get it wrong then people die, we have balls of steel and a nerve that not everyone has, we risk life and limb on a daily basis just to keep your ice cream frozen. Sleep easy, I am keeping your cornflake milk cooled. Hopefully this thread will have shown just how gripping fridge work is.
TiredAndEmotional:
I too have learned something today, possibly re-learned after forgetting! The wind sock is so simple yet effective, if the wind is blowing! There was a fatality somewhere this year involving an escape of ammonia but for the life of me I can’t remember where it was. Good work UKt. I personally am interested in hearing more from you. I have to say though I’ve had several belly laughs reading this thread!
When I was a tanker driver I used to haul Anhydrous Ammonia which was carried in an extremely cold state and under immense pressure (empty tank and unit used to tare off at over 25 tonne due to the armoured tank) so am well aware of the dangers of ammonia.
Anyhoo, a couple of weeks ago on our site we had the toxic alarm go off, obviously the first thing I did was look at the windsock and then looked on in amazement as they shepherded everyone into the traffic office which not only was directly downwind from the ammonia tanks but also had every window open in the office too! I explained quietly to the site H&S man the error of his ways and he had absolutely no concept of what a disaster it could have been if it hadn’t been a false alarm.
UKtramp:
TiredAndEmotional:
I too have learned something today, possibly re-learned after forgetting! The wind sock is so simple yet effective, if the wind is blowing! There was a fatality somewhere this year involving an escape of ammonia but for the life of me I can’t remember where it was. Good work UKt. I personally am interested in hearing more from you. I have to say though I’ve had several belly laughs reading this thread!Glad you have enjoyed it, I am sure you can see the dangers lurkin at every corner of refrigeration, it is a dangerous job but someone has to do it. Being a fridge man is a lot like being in the SAS, if we get it wrong then people die, we have balls of steel and a nerve that not everyone has, we risk life and limb on a daily basis just to keep your ice cream frozen. Sleep easy, I am keeping your cornflake milk cooled. Hopefully this thread will have shown just how gripping fridge work is.
I’m on the edge of my seat!
Whats the big drama it’s fridge talk
If he is who he says he is why don’t he just say what he has to say and not drag it out its so painful
Explain all in one post and stop being such a drama queen and looking for attention
You have a gift of the gab in written words are you the same in person prey tell
DonutUK:
I have a question about a fridge?
Is it running? Always.
Well get after it then.
Don’t park next to me if it is cause its 10pm cut off.
the maoster:
When I was a tanker driver I used to haul Anhydrous Ammonia which was carried in an extremely cold state and under immense pressure (empty tank and unit used to tare off at over 25 tonne due to the armoured tank) so am well aware of the dangers of ammonia.Anyhoo, a couple of weeks ago on our site we had the toxic alarm go off, obviously the first thing I did was look at the windsock and then looked on in amazement as they shepherded everyone into the traffic office which not only was directly downwind from the ammonia tanks but also had every window open in the office too! I explained quietly to the site H&S man the error of his ways and he had absolutely no concept of what a disaster it could have been if it hadn’t been a false alarm.
Did you unload and load the ammonia yourself to the tank?
So when are we going to get to the nitty-gritty info about “the goods” that we professional fridge drivers transport Mr Fridge Expert, EH?
I can’t wait to read what you have to offer on what travels at what temp and if it should be on cycle or continue.
Please tell me how knowledgeable you are on transporting:::::: bananas, salad, frozen meat, eggs, dairy products
pierrot 14:
So when are we going to get to the nitty-gritty info about “the goods” that we professional fridge drivers transport Mr Fridge Expert, EH?
I can’t wait to read what you have to offer on what travels at what temp and if it should be on cycle or continue.Please tell me how knowledgeable you are on transporting:::::: bananas, salad, frozen meat, eggs, dairy products
I was born to freeze goods, as a child my hobby was chilling bananas at various temperatures, I moved on to dairy and eggs at the age of 9. I was given an old refrigerator that didn’t work for my 6th birthday. By the end of the week I had serviced that fridge fully overhauled it and filled it with every kind of salad produce I could get my hands on. I will pass this extensive knowledge on as it is imperative for people to continue my work.
UKtramp:
Being a fridge man is a lot like being in the SAS, if we get it wrong then people die,
So you were on the balcony because the Iranians had bought a Beko?
Norfolkinclue1:
UKtramp:
Being a fridge man is a lot like being in the SAS, if we get it wrong then people die,So you were on the balcony because the Iranians had bought a Beko?
I can’t speak about it to be honest, I would love to but it is in my new book, bravo two Zanussi. Have to give credit to Andy call me a cab who is the co author.
UKtramp:
Norfolkinclue1:
UKtramp:
Being a fridge man is a lot like being in the SAS, if we get it wrong then people die,So you were on the balcony because the Iranians had bought a Beko?
I can’t speak about it to be honest, I would love to but it is in my new book, bravo two Zanussi. Have to give credit to Andy call me a cab who is the co author.
That’s almost as good as “Wedgie Kray”!
