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UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUMS THE UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUM (INTERACTIVE)
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Well, to a point ffs lol.

Applied via indeed for a job on bulkers for a farm consortium, first time I’ve ever used indeed to actually apply but felt due to the nature of the work/world as it is I’d give it a go that way, not ideal to be popping into the countryside at this moment in time for a plethora of reasons I felt…

Alas, I’ve just had a really nice message left via voicemail, out of signal ffs lol, to say that sadly I’ve been unsuccessful.

Plus point was it were really nice an refreshing to hear some personal feedback and how they were very impressed with my cover letter, and the character shown within it.
They then wished me all the best of luck in these times, and for the future, and said once I’ve some miles under my belt I’d be very welcome to apply again should anything becomes available [emoji636]

Gutted as it was a gig I’d love but it just goes to show there are some decent folks still about who will take the time for the personal approach even if the news ent the best [emoji106]

Small haulage firms really do need to stand up to the corporates and put this way of doing business back on the map, get the ‘Great’ back into Britain again pronto[emoji16]

Oooh an Gooood luck to whoever gets the job by the way, ya lucky jammy git barsteward [emoji482] [emoji482]

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Nice to hear some good news , sort of . I’ve applied for 6 on indeed over the last month, heard f all from any of em .
Keep trying old lad

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mickymidas:
Nice to hear some good news , sort of . I’ve applied for 6 on indeed over the last month, heard f all from any of em .
Keep trying old lad

Best of British to you too chap [emoji482][emoji482]

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I’ve been browsing jobs lately, and it’s been quite interesting what’s been thrown up.

One thing that struck me as odd is that the smaller companies just tend to completely ignore applications. Even vacancies which are just a few days old, and seemingly urgent.

It’s been the bigger firms, who take lots of flak on here who have actually responded and sent personalised replies. Some of which were very quick to get back, explaining that they have implemented a recruitment freeze until this is all over.

I might be old school, but I think it’s ignorant for companies to just ignore an application, and not even reply. Positive or negative, people still need a bit of closure. They’ve taken the time to apply, updated a CV, done a cover letter, and maybe filled out an application form. So the least they deserve is a response. Just my opinion.

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Rottweiler22:
I might be old school, but I think it’s ignorant for companies to just ignore an application, and not even reply. Positive or negative, people still need a bit of closure. They’ve taken the time to apply, updated a CV, done a cover letter, and maybe filled out an application form. So the least they deserve is a response. Just my opinion.

Agree 100% even though I’m not that old school. It’s the decent thing to do and hardly costs anything - just send a precanned mass text/email to all the unsuccessful applicants - better than nothing. I suppose getting dozens or hundreds of applications for a single opening does give one a feeling of power/superiority over the masses

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Rottweiler22:
I’ve been browsing jobs lately, and it’s been quite interesting what’s been thrown up.

One thing that struck me as odd is that the smaller companies just tend to completely ignore applications. Even vacancies which are just a few days old, and seemingly urgent.

It’s been the bigger firms, who take lots of flak on here who have actually responded and sent personalised replies. Some of which were very quick to get back, explaining that they have implemented a recruitment freeze until this is all over.

I might be old school, but I think it’s ignorant for companies to just ignore an application, and not even reply. Positive or negative, people still need a bit of closure. They’ve taken the time to apply, updated a CV, done a cover letter, and maybe filled out an application form. So the least they deserve is a response. Just my opinion.

I’m not going to try to defend receiving no response to an application as I agree that it’s ignorant and just plain rude tbh. What I’d guess though is that big firms have plenty of underemployed personnel working for them in HR etc who are desperate to try and justify their salaries and so will respond to applications. Whereas a smaller firm tends to have a busier office staff who may intend at some point to reply but find that they have many other tasks to attend to and eventually just forget about it.

As I say, no excuse, but perhaps a reason?

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3 more sent today…

Won’t hold my breath for another call back [emoji57][emoji38]

When I went through Stobart, they in all fairness were spot on, you got a replys and they really tried to help at every stage, which again was very refreshing.

Maritime were also absolutely spot on too, although it took some hammering to get through the door and once successful they then binned me thanks to cough cough covid ffs [emoji20]

Problem I have with it all is this ‘agency gas lighting’ of fairy tale jobs, so I simply avoid agency. With regards to bigger firms its the ‘we’re recruiting’ yet they don’t keep a live feed on the applications section, so folks can at least see if it’s even worth an application.

Be such a simple thing to add, and they’ve got the HR staff obviously…

Think I may go back into eduction once this is all over as I can’t ever see me driving a wagon again, let alone getting paid for it [emoji24][emoji38]

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There’s a school of thought that suggests that if you were not told “You got the job start xxxday” at the end of the job interview - you didn’t get the job, but they didn’t have the bottle to tell you to your face…

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Benjie83:
3 more sent today…

Won’t hold my breath for another call back [emoji57][emoji38]

When I went through Stobart, they in all fairness were spot on, you got a replys and they really tried to help at every stage, which again was very refreshing.

Maritime were also absolutely spot on too, although it took some hammering to get through the door and once successful they then binned me thanks to cough cough covid ffs [emoji20]

Problem I have with it all is this ‘agency gas lighting’ of fairy tale jobs, so I simply avoid agency. With regards to bigger firms its the ‘we’re recruiting’ yet they don’t keep a live feed on the applications section, so folks can at least see if it’s even worth an application.

Be such a simple thing to add, and they’ve got the HR staff obviously…

Think I may go back into eduction once this is all over as I can’t ever see me driving a wagon again, let alone getting paid for it [emoji24][emoji38]

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Am I getting you mixed up here mate or what…forgive me if I am.
You’re always on about not being able to get a job, but did you not have a one at Stobbies and jack it for whatever reason?

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Nice to hear that some people still have enough courtesy to get back to you.

When we were about to leave school (Punk was new music, that’s how long ago I’m talking about) our “Careers Teacher” (a joke job if ever there was one) told us we had to include a “Stamped Addressed Envelope” if we wanted to find out how the interview went :unamused:

I was going to write “SAE” but I thought I’d better spell it out for the younger members of TN :laughing:

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robroy:

Benjie83:
3 more sent today…

Won’t hold my breath for another call back [emoji57][emoji38]

When I went through Stobart, they in all fairness were spot on, you got a replys and they really tried to help at every stage, which again was very refreshing.

Maritime were also absolutely spot on too, although it took some hammering to get through the door and once successful they then binned me thanks to cough cough covid ffs [emoji20]

Problem I have with it all is this ‘agency gas lighting’ of fairy tale jobs, so I simply avoid agency. With regards to bigger firms its the ‘we’re recruiting’ yet they don’t keep a live feed on the applications section, so folks can at least see if it’s even worth an application.

Be such a simple thing to add, and they’ve got the HR staff obviously…

Think I may go back into eduction once this is all over as I can’t ever see me driving a wagon again, let alone getting paid for it [emoji24][emoji38]

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Am I getting you mixed up here mate or what…forgive me if I am.
You’re always on about not being able to get a job, but did you not have a one at Stobbies and jack it for whatever reason?

Your not, and yes I did for the not too deep a reasons I gave at the time.

I just weren’t in a good place mentally chap.
Lot of underlying personal/family issues fueling me into a corner.
All the type of stuff that can’t be swept under the carpet either so man had to make a choice and leaving that particular job was the only one I could make at the time, which as I said at the time, and have many times since was a gutter to make but I’m better for it now in a weird way [emoji849][emoji38]

I was successful elsewhere an had a start date for mid February on the boxes, proper opportunity that one, then covid arrived [emoji38][emoji38]

Lifes roulette to me Mr rob, and this time I shot meself, luck of the barrel.
But I’ve kept me looks, just got a touch more of a ‘sloth’ from the goonies to them now but it’s been nae too shabby a gamble really as I’m still breathing, which I know will warm the hearts of my many fans in here, life has its perks… [emoji8][emoji16][emoji1787]

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Zac_A:
Nice to hear that some people still have enough courtesy to get back to you.

When we were about to leave school (Punk was new music, that’s how long ago I’m talking about) our “Careers Teacher” (a joke job if ever there was one) told us we had to include a “Stamped Addressed Envelope” if we wanted to find out how the interview went :unamused:

I was going to write “SAE” but I thought I’d better spell it out for the younger members of TN [emoji38]

I still send with an SAE on occasion too, thought I was only one in world to still do so [emoji44][emoji38]

I applied to an independent Rolls Royce specialist years ago for a role in their refinishing department, sent an SAE with my application, when they replied they’d used my envelope but had put a clean stamp back in with my response [emoji44][emoji44]

Don’t get respect/business decorum like that anymore sadly.

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Benjie83:

robroy:

Benjie83:
3 more sent today…

Won’t hold my breath for another call back [emoji57][emoji38]

When I went through Stobart, they in all fairness were spot on, you got a replys and they really tried to help at every stage, which again was very refreshing.

Maritime were also absolutely spot on too, although it took some hammering to get through the door and once successful they then binned me thanks to cough cough covid ffs [emoji20]

Problem I have with it all is this ‘agency gas lighting’ of fairy tale jobs, so I simply avoid agency. With regards to bigger firms its the ‘we’re recruiting’ yet they don’t keep a live feed on the applications section, so folks can at least see if it’s even worth an application.

Be such a simple thing to add, and they’ve got the HR staff obviously…

Think I may go back into eduction once this is all over as I can’t ever see me driving a wagon again, let alone getting paid for it [emoji24][emoji38]

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Am I getting you mixed up here mate or what…forgive me if I am.
You’re always on about not being able to get a job, but did you not have a one at Stobbies and jack it for whatever reason?

Your not, and yes I did for the not too deep a reasons I gave at the time.
I just weren’t in a good place mentally chap.
Lot of underlying personal/family issues fueling me into a corner.
All the type of stuff that can’t be swept under the carpet either so man had to make a choice and leaving that particular job was the only one I could make at the time, which as I said at the time, and have many times since was a gutter to make but I’m better for it now in a weird way [emoji849][emoji38]

I was successful elsewhere an had a start date for mid February on the boxes, proper opportunity that one, then covid arrived [emoji38][emoji38]

Lifes roulette to me Mr rob, and this time I shot meself, luck of the barrel.

Ok, so what’s to say you won’t have similar experiences with the next job you have.
I’ve personally always been able to separate personal and family issues from work, by getting my act together, and believe me I have been right on the bones of my arse before, both financially and emotionally, but never a drama queen (not saying you are either btw)
So that and the fact that I ain’t the most sympathetic touchy feely or caring type of guy I do find it difficult to understand your point, …but hey, that does not make me right and you wrong,.

The lateral way I see it is (rightly or wrongly) is that somebody who has voluntarily jacked a job for whatever reason, can not complain too much if the next job does not come along the next day, and be surprised that people ain’t knocking his door down to start working for them.

No offence mate, sorry if I sound harsh, but that is just the way I see it and the way I am, straight talking…but trying to remain tactful. :neutral_face: :smiley:

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Winseer:
There’s a school of thought that suggests that if you were not told “You got the job start xxxday” at the end of the job interview - you didn’t get the job, but they didn’t have the bottle to tell you to your face…

I agree with that statement.

When I ring up for work and I’m told “send in a CV” then I don’t bother as they don’t have any work going. If they had then it would be a come and see me answer.

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robroy:

Benjie83:

robroy:

Benjie83:
3 more sent today…

Won’t hold my breath for another call back [emoji57][emoji38]

When I went through Stobart, they in all fairness were spot on, you got a replys and they really tried to help at every stage, which again was very refreshing.

Maritime were also absolutely spot on too, although it took some hammering to get through the door and once successful they then binned me thanks to cough cough covid ffs [emoji20]

Problem I have with it all is this ‘agency gas lighting’ of fairy tale jobs, so I simply avoid agency. With regards to bigger firms its the ‘we’re recruiting’ yet they don’t keep a live feed on the applications section, so folks can at least see if it’s even worth an application.

Be such a simple thing to add, and they’ve got the HR staff obviously…

Think I may go back into eduction once this is all over as I can’t ever see me driving a wagon again, let alone getting paid for it [emoji24][emoji38]

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Am I getting you mixed up here mate or what…forgive me if I am.
You’re always on about not being able to get a job, but did you not have a one at Stobbies and jack it for whatever reason?

Your not, and yes I did for the not too deep a reasons I gave at the time.
I just weren’t in a good place mentally chap.
Lot of underlying personal/family issues fueling me into a corner.
All the type of stuff that can’t be swept under the carpet either so man had to make a choice and leaving that particular job was the only one I could make at the time, which as I said at the time, and have many times since was a gutter to make but I’m better for it now in a weird way [emoji849][emoji38]

I was successful elsewhere an had a start date for mid February on the boxes, proper opportunity that one, then covid arrived [emoji38][emoji38]

Lifes roulette to me Mr rob, and this time I shot meself, luck of the barrel.

Ok, so what’s to say you won’t have similar experiences with the next job you have.
I’ve personally always been able to separate personal and family issues from work, by getting my act together, and believe me I have been right on the bones of my arse before, both financially and emotionally, but never a drama queen (not saying you are either btw)
So that and the fact that I ain’t the most sympathetic touchy feely or caring type of guy I do find it difficult to understand your point, …but hey, that does not make me right and you wrong,.

The lateral way I see it is (rightly or wrongly) is that somebody who has voluntarily jacked a job for whatever reason, can not complain too much if the next job does not come along the next day, and be surprised that people ain’t knocking his door down to start working for them.

No offence mate, sorry if I sound harsh, but that is just the way I see it and the way I am, straight talking…but trying to remain tactful. :neutral_face: :smiley:

None taken [emoji482]

No complaints, just want to work it’s that simple, and trust me I ain’t expecting nowt, except as the topic matter was about, bit of decency in the world with regards to mutual conduct, just a yes or no be nice ent it [emoji38]

But at that moment in time it just wasn’t possible to do it properly, my head weren’t in the game as it needed to be.
If we went all GCHQ off grid an split a few pints, you’d get all the puzzle bits an then hopefully understand the corner I was in, as you’ve said yaself you know only too well about them corners too lol, only difference is what’s pushed us there.

All a bit smoke an mirrors i know but it’s personal fella, face to face be a different matter.
Plus side is it allowed me to clear my inner baggage, and the time to quantify it into the bin where it belonged, be the bloke I should be for the wife/kids [emoji106]

Hence I’d got another job sorted, one which would have allowed me to be able to do the things I need to do for those who need it, and have the means about to do so if I couldn’t be there, plates to juggle as they say.

But covid scuppered that one, poxy germs.

Either that or I’ve just been black listed by the Rothchild, illuminati types of the haulage game coz they’ve heard the rumours that I am one of the hallowed few who naturally could combine Stobart Green, driving ability an dashing good looks.

in other words…

‘A TRUE ROAD LEGEND’.

[emoji8][emoji8][emoji16][emoji16][emoji16][emoji16][emoji1787][emoji1787]

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Could you not have went on the sick or something like that, did you tell stobart that’s why you’re leaving because you could not cope and your head was all over the place, I hope not for your sake, if you did you need to go back to the start, no stobart on any cv

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Benjie83:
3 more sent today…

Won’t hold my breath for another call back [emoji57][emoji38]

When I went through Stobart, they in all fairness were spot on, you got a replys and they really tried to help at every stage, which again was very refreshing.

Maritime were also absolutely spot on too, although it took some hammering to get through the door and once successful they then binned me thanks to cough cough covid ffs [emoji20]

Problem I have with it all is this ‘agency gas lighting’ of fairy tale jobs, so I simply avoid agency. With regards to bigger firms its the ‘we’re recruiting’ yet they don’t keep a live feed on the applications section, so folks can at least see if it’s even worth an application.

Be such a simple thing to add, and they’ve got the HR staff obviously…

Think I may go back into eduction once this is all over as I can’t ever see me driving a wagon again, let alone getting paid for it [emoji24][emoji38]

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I’ve had multiple replies from companies stating that recruitment is frozen due to the virus. Despite their websites being up to date, with current vacancies being advertised. Yet, the adverts are still on the website. Have to ask what the point is. But still, at least they got back in touch with a “we’ll bear you in mind when things get going again…” kind of response. Better than a kick in the teeth.

You know what they say. Don’t ask, you don’t get! Keep the applications rolling and something will pop up.

The “send us your CV” palarva always cracks me up. As if they’d read your CV and think “Oh wow, we weren’t recruiting, but good god this bloke is so fabulously experienced and clearly an awesome driver, we just need to employ him before somebody else does!”. I agree. If they tell you to send them a CV, don’t waste your time.

I’ve been fiddled when knocking on doors too. Twice, I was given an application form and asked to fill it in and return it. With absolutely no response… Never again.

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Reality check :bulb:
I would reckon the hope of getting a job as a driver in the present climate ranges from No to Bob.
Drivers are laid off ffs, so why would any firm take anybody on.
It ain’t difficult to work out.

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I spotted a job on Indeed website not that long ago. The company is within walking distance from where I live and the (specialist) work they do is something I have experience with. The nature of the work meant it was only part-time hours, but that suited me just fine. Ad had an ‘urgent’ tag on it and said ‘immediate start’ in the body. It had only been advertised for a few hours. So I rang them a couple of times, no answer and got an automated voicemail that they were busy and to call back later or leave a message. I called in in person on my way back from the supermarket an hour later with my CV and introduced myself, mentioned the job and could start immediately if required. There were 3 of them sat there all basically doing nothing. “Sorry we don’t accept applications in person, you need to apply via the job website as stated”. I politely pointed out that I had my CV with me for them to look over and had purposely come in person because of the urgent and immediate requirement for a driver. “Yes, we do, but you still need to apply and send your CV via the job site”.

I should perhaps mention that this is a small family outift with that being their only office, so my application and CV would not be going to a central HR department somewhere else in the country, it would most likely be arriving in the inbox of the very people I was stood there talking to. So I went home, quickly hacked out a brief covering letter detailing my experience, what I could bring to the company and why I believed I was a good fit for the role, attached my CV and sent it all on its way then waited for the phone to ring. Nothing ! :unamused:

My general experience of applying for full-time employed roles in this sector is that the response rate is about 10%, regardless of any ‘urgently required’ and ‘immediate start’ guff. My CV is top notch with all the right keywords in it to match their filters and I’ve been told as much by the HR departments of the jobs I’ve been offered over the years. What I’ve noticed in more recent times is that if you don’t apply within half a day of a new job being advertised you’re basically wasting your time as they won’t bother to reply. A good number of the ones I’ve applied for that have been advertised that same morning I’ve had a telephone interview from them within the hour. What annoys me is a lot of them make the right noises down the phone to the point of basically offering you the job as they’ll “see what the current driver assessment availability is then I’ll ring you back with the details” and then radio silence! Even if they can’t be arsed writing a few sentences to tell you WHY you weren’t successful, it takes literally 2 minutes to put together a “sorry you weren’t successful, good luck in your search” email and copy and paste it to everyone who applied so you know you can write it off and move on. The lack of response leaves you on tenterhooks wondering wtf is going on, especially when the interview went so (seemingly) well, with talk about arranging an assessment. I just hope that when THEY move on to a new job THEY get messed around in the same way when they apply for the role.

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^^^^

And we wonder why the country’s in the state its in, well most don’t and that’s the problem.

Too quote, ‘these types of people are symptomatic of the lazy, unimaginative management that is driving this country onto the rocks!!’.

Somewhat apt given the current predicament this rocks enduring…
After all, who needs wheat, when there’s an abundance of chaff [emoji102]

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