If I start work on a Sunday at 3pm…
Park at 10pm.
9 hours rest till 7am Monday.
Then do 14 hour shift till 9pm.
Then 12 hours rest.
Have I used two reduced rests there or just one?
Two.
You start work on Sunday at 15:00. So on Monday at 15:00 you ask yourself “Have I had 11 hours of continuous rest in the previous 24 hours?”. Answer, no.
Then you start work on Monday at 07:00. So on Tuesday at 07:00 you ask yourself “Have I had 11 hours of continuous rest in the previous 24 hours?”. Answer, no.
Harry Monk:
Two.
Yep 2
Harry Monk:
Two.You start work on Sunday at 15:00. So on Monday at 15:00 you ask yourself “Have I had 11 hours of continuous rest in the previous 24 hours?”. Answer, no.
Then you start work on Monday at 07:00. So on Tuesday at 07:00 you ask yourself “Have I had 11 hours of continuous rest in the previous 24 hours?”. Answer, no.
Thanks.
I get it, but if I start work on Tuesday at 9am and not 7am, then I have had 11+ hours continuous rest in the last 24hrs?
Or is it irrelevant what time I start, and all that matters is the 24 hrs since I started my last shift?
And let’s say I did a 12 hour shift on the Monday instead of 14, with the same rests before and after, would that change things?
When you start a shift a 24 hour countdown timer effectively begins.
When the timer in theory goes off or before you must have finished the shift and had either at least 11 hours off on rest, or 3 times between weekly rest periods you can reduce it from 11 to 9 hours.
So as soon as you do 13:01 duty, you can no longer fit 11 hours of rest in before the 24 hours are up, so you will use 1 reduced rest, even if you have more than 11 hours off. It’s the reduced rest that allows you to do a 15 hour duty
You also have split rests, 3 hours on rest in 1 block during the shift at some point, then 9 off all within the 24 hour period again
Multi Manning, when there are 2 drivers present, although that is optional for the 1st hour and it doesn’t have to be the same driver throughout the shift. Then you use a 30 hour period instead of the 24, but it all works the same.
idrive:
Harry Monk:
Two.You start work on Sunday at 15:00. So on Monday at 15:00 you ask yourself “Have I had 11 hours of continuous rest in the previous 24 hours?”. Answer, no.
Then you start work on Monday at 07:00. So on Tuesday at 07:00 you ask yourself “Have I had 11 hours of continuous rest in the previous 24 hours?”. Answer, no.
Thanks.
I get it, but if I start work on Tuesday at 9am and not 7am, then I have had 11+ hours continuous rest in the last 24hrs?
Or is it irrelevant what time I start, and all that matters is the 24 hrs since I started my last shift?And let’s say I did a 12 hour shift on the Monday instead of 14, with the same rests before and after, would that change things?
-A new period of 24 hours begins when you start work.
-Your daily rest period must be completed within the period of 24 hours from the start of the shift (regardless of what time the shift started).
This is assuming that you’re not having a split daily rest period:
Only the rest period that fits into the period of 24 hours counts towards your daily rest period, regardless of how many hours rest you have if 11 hours rest does not fit into the period of 24 hours it’s a reduced daily rest period.
Say you have 14 hours rest after finishing the shift but less than 11 of those rest hours fall into the 24 hour period from the start of the shift, then it’s a reduced daily rest period.
-You can have three reduced daily rest periods between two weekly rest periods.
Thanks everyone, got it now.
What you need is a course, I dunno some certificateor something, on drivers hours where someone can quote text from a book at you but cant give practical examples of real world usage to allow people to relate to the rules you’ve just been read 
toonsy:
What you need is a course, I dunno some certificateor something, on drivers hours where someone can quote text from a book at you but cant give practical examples of real world usage to allow people to relate to the rules you’ve just been read
This is where a site like this is invaluable because it gives the poster an opportunity to post exactly what they want to do or have done so that others can give a definitive answer
It also gives the opportunity for those answering to post examples which many find more useful than simply being told what the rules are
Giving the rules in a slightly different but still accurate way can also help
If I worked those hours I would not know if I was coming or going 
If I worked those hours I would not know if I was coming or going
fuse:
If I worked those hours I would not know if I was coming or going
fuse:
If I worked those hours I would not know if I was coming or going
TWICE 
ROG:
fuse:
If I worked those hours I would not know if I was coming or goingfuse:
If I worked those hours I would not know if I was coming or goingTWICE
One was coming, the other was going
fuse:
If I worked those hours I would not know if I was coming or going
I’m always coming or going somewhere, that’s for sure 
idrive:
Then do 14 hour shift till 9pm.
Then 12 hours rest.
Have I used two reduced rests there or just one?
It’s when you add the 14 and 12 to make a number more than 24 that you know you have to think again.
If you can get a 3hr break in on Monday then only Sunday would be a reduced rest
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mark1284:
If you can get a 3hr break in on Monday then only Sunday would be a reduced rest
Might seem pedantic but it would need to be a 3 hour rest not break
The rules are different for each of those
ROG:
mark1284:
If you can get a 3hr break in on Monday then only Sunday would be a reduced restMight seem pedantic but it would need to be a 3 hour rest not break
The rules are different for each of those
How do you differentiate between the two on the tacho?
idrive:
ROG:
mark1284:
If you can get a 3hr break in on Monday then only Sunday would be a reduced restMight seem pedantic but it would need to be a 3 hour rest not break
The rules are different for each of thoseHow do you differentiate between the two on the tacho?
Both use the bed symbol
Lets say DVSA do a roadside check and the cab you have does not have a bunk and/or you cannot explain that you were able to use your time as you see fit 
toonsy:
What you need is a course, I dunno some certificateor something, on drivers hours where someone can quote text from a book at you but cant give practical examples of real world usage to allow people to relate to the rules you’ve just been read
The rules on this are pretty straightforward. In any period of 24 hours work you need to have a minimum of eleven hours rest which can be reduced to nine hours up to three times in a working week.
OP is on a DAILY rest at the start of that working week at midnight Sunday, not a weekly rest because he’s already had that before starting rhe Sunday drive.
More proof, if it were needed, that the drivers who reckon DCPC is waste of time should pay more attention when they’re doing the course.