I thought that too lol. As nmm says its no different to road fuel just often stored in manky containers that causes the problems.
OVLOV JAY:
Blimey Harry, you haven’t even had your first invoice yet and you’re considering running on cherry
Just getting the dummy tank built into the trailer headboard now, all I need is a blue airline and I’m away!
Harry…well your first mistake…buddy ran on cherry trouble was the guy we worked for knew and always gave him the crap jobs so his fuel savings were lost on low rates given.Be like Dad Keep MUM.
limeyphil:
mac12:
Farmer’s used to run on gas oil which was called red diesel if that was put into a new car now you will get problems,now they use red diesel which is the same as white so won’t do any harm.gas oil, and red diesel are the same thing. heating oil, and kerosene are the same.
they may have used kerosene, and called it gas oil, but they arn’t the same thing.
thought you can get red derv and red gas oil,gas oil will harm a modern engine
Armagedon:
Harry…well your first mistake…buddy ran on cherry trouble was the guy we worked for knew and always gave him the crap jobs so his fuel savings were lost on low rates given.Be like Dad Keep MUM.
No, I’m only joking! 
Someone said in Bully’s Bar that red diesel harmed car engines and this conflicted with my understanding so I thought I’d throw the question open on the main forum.
Hell! Harry so your NOT going to run on cherry ow! you gonna survive.
Is there is a difference between red & white diesel, red had a lot more sulphur until last year, but its cetane rating is lower the white. Petrol is rated on octane, diesel on cetane. White diesel has a higher level usually between 46 - 55, red is lower around 40.
Moose:
Wheel Nut:
Solly:
Wheel Nut:
newmercman:
Solly:
It has had a dye added. It is in no way detrimental to an engine whatever anyone else say’s.^this^
The reputation of red as making filters clog etc comes from the old days when it was stored in belly tanks, which were sometimes of dubious quality and full of rust and various other crap due to their location under the trailer
Plus it was cut with kerosene at places like Bulgaria or Romania
Kerosene=Paraffin+Diesel. ?
Paraffin is dry, it hasnt got the same lubrication properties. Try rubbing it between your fingers
TVO was a mix of paraffin and petrol
red derv wont do any harm at all, engines are made to fit vehicles all over the world, the grade of fuel/diesel used is not the same the world over in the first place so the red dye wont hurt, some/most countries don’t sell rebated fuel in the first place so ask yourself “do the engine builders provide special engines that are ok for red in the countries that use it”
answer NO!!!
when we mix TVO we also put a small amount of oil in for lubrication, some folk used to put in diesel, but these days diesel has less lubrication in to start with so i would go with the oil!
moose
Used to run on kerosene diesel mix. Threw a gallon of engine oil in to an ibc then 500 litres of kerosene and 500 of derv no problems.
Eventualy got down to running on pure kerosene. Ok for a while but engines eventualy gave up with spectacular results.
The point is that diesel engines were designed to run on peanut oil., Modern DERV fuel as a fossil derived fuel has been refined for use in Rudolph Diesels creation more out of supply, rather than specification.
Take the amount of vehicles running on vegetable oil, Red is no different from derv as we have established, but I have just overcome running my 2.2 litre Citroen C5 HDi on used cooking oil and it runs as well if not better than on road diesel. I think therefore that red diesel in a modern common rail diesel engine would not perform any worse than DERV fuel.
limeyphil:
mac12:
Farmer’s used to run on gas oil which was called red diesel if that was put into a new car now you will get problems,now they use red diesel which is the same as white so won’t do any harm.gas oil, and red diesel are the same thing. heating oil, and kerosene are the same.
they may have used kerosene, and called it gas oil, but they arn’t the same thing.
We used to use DERV Fuel
Department of Environment Road Vehicle Fuel
I thought it stood for Diesel Engine Road Vehicle.
Harry Monk:
I thought it stood for Diesel Engine Road Vehicle.
as opposed to PERV? 
Harry Monk:
I thought it stood for Diesel Engine Road Vehicle.
me too… and it does
Foxstein:
Harry Monk:
I thought it stood for Diesel Engine Road Vehicle.me too… and it does
I shall remember that. I have repeatedly told people it was DERV from the government department since I was about 9 years old when I asked the same question 
I have always known white diesel as DERV and red as REBATED.
It always made me smile in France when the douane asked, Gas Oil? and I could honestly say YES 
They normally just shook their head and sent me on my way with 1500 litres of red in my belly 
Wheel Nut:
I shall remember that. I have repeatedly told people it was DERV from the government department since I was about 9 years old when I asked the same question
So you’re that bloke in the Tesco RDC then?
Harry Monk:
Wheel Nut:
I shall remember that. I have repeatedly told people it was DERV from the government department since I was about 9 years old when I asked the same questionSo you’re that bloke in the Tesco RDC then?
Yup!
Harry, it is very hard to admit when you are wrong, so I am going to get beaten by some Turkish wrestlers this very afternoon! 
Well, next time you know what to turn round and say!
Suffolk ReeferBoy:
300 ml of two stroke oil in a tank full of red or white helps the pumps on cars which have fragile pumps , some Vectras , some mondeos , I use it , the two stroke oil , in a Vectra 2.2 which are having pump probs due to low sulphur Diesel .Red doesnt cause any problems whatsoever .
I read this on a site where the chap that suggested it was an oil guru. BUT whatever you do don’t add 2 stroke to a VW PD engine, or you can say goodbye to the injectors.
A little bird told me once that all of Ford’s engine testing got cocked up as BP delivered the wrong grade of cherry to Dunton. They sent in the normal stuff, but should have used a special grade that came from a specific depot in Grays. Now my point is if they test the engines using cherry, then can we assume it is not harmful in normal road going vehicles ? Or was it just low Sulpher.
I would be very wary using cherry on trucks with LEZ modified exhaust systems as there is a clear warning on them to use low sulpher diesel otherwise they break.
Never ran my own cars on red, but ran one for 3 years on AvTur (Kerosine) with no additives. Then sold the car to my bro who ran it another 2 years on the same, then he sold it to someone else, still running it on kerosine.
Never missed a beat.
1998 Seat Cordoba Coupe with 130hp VW 1.9 TDi engine. Was the engine they were fitting into Golf GT TDi’s at the time.