Rail Accident in Denmark

Just seen a report of a rail accident resulting in some fatalities and injuries.The bridge has road and rail traffic alongside each other.The weather was very windy.The initial report stated that a passenger train struck or was struck by debris which fell off the freight train.The TV pictures showed some Carlsberg trailers being carried with curtains damaged and hanging largely open.The load of beer crates appeared to have no kind of load restraint apart from roof supports.This seems strange considering the posts seen on this forum regarding restraining loads within curtainsiders.The train was travelling from Odense to Copenhagen.It will be interesting to see if the reports are correct.

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Shows curtains aren’t effective as load restraints.

I read this earlier, it seems the curtains or some kind of tarpaulin had come loose from the freight carriages and struck the passenger train as it passed.

ive never seen a ford galaxy with “follow me” driving in front of a train,so why would they bother with load restraints when the crates mostly fit into each other… :confused:

Presumably, the trailers move loaded on the road at some point

Very windy.
Can’t see they would load trailers with the load hanging in the sheets, but if wind got under the roof, blew it so it became entangled with summat, it would pull out the toprails etc…
Pure guess of course…

probably someone was burgling the trailers and nicking the drink,then never fastened it down again.

dieseldog999:
probably someone was burgling the trailers and nicking the drink,then never fastened it down again.

I reckon that could be the right answer.

GasGas:

dieseldog999:
probably someone was burgling the trailers and nicking the drink,then never fastened it down again.

I reckon that could be the right answer.

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if only carlsberg employed security guards. :slight_smile:

It seems that a trailer, or a container, was dislodged from the freight train in very high winds, into the path of the passenger train. A large amount of debris entered the leading carriage of the passenger train. The bridge was already closed to road traffic, but not trains. I don’t expect anybody thought that a train carrying road vehicles might be at risk.

GasGas:

dieseldog999:
probably someone was burgling the trailers and nicking the drink,then never fastened it down again.

I reckon that could be the right answer.

Great minds think alike , I was thinking the self same thing myself , one other point which could be of interest considering Denmark is a fairly small country and the distances are short I find it surprising that the movement of trailers on rail is practical ?.

If only carlsberg made bridges

shugg:
Great minds think alike , I was thinking the self same thing myself , one other point which could be of interest considering Denmark is a fairly small country and the distances are short I find it surprising that the movement of trailers on rail is practical ?.

That road / rail route continues to Sweden, and beyond so they could have come from anywhere ( they were empty bottles returning to Denmark I am sure I read so that, at least partially, takes out the thieving theory ).

manski:

shugg:
Great minds think alike , I was thinking the self same thing myself , one other point which could be of interest considering Denmark is a fairly small country and the distances are short I find it surprising that the movement of trailers on rail is practical ?.

That road / rail route continues to Sweden, and beyond so they could have come from anywhere ( they were empty bottles returning to Denmark I am sure I read so that, at least partially, takes out the thieving theory ).

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they wouldnt know they were empty till after they tanned the curtains,or have you never seen an empty curtainsider with the curtains slashed,even when the back door was left open…?
the price of drink in denmark/sweden is astronomical so that kind of load would be worth its weight in gold even moreso than here in the uk.

dieseldog999:
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they wouldnt know they were empty till after they tanned the curtains,or have you never seen an empty curtainsider with the curtains slashed,even when the back door was left open…?
the price of drink in denmark/sweden is astronomical so that kind of load would be worth its weight in gold even moreso than here in the uk.

Yes I have, one of my own :frowning: , and that’s why I said partially :laughing:

Having driven on that bridge in the past my thoughts were that I wouldn’t want to be on it on a windy day !
It is very spectacular though

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Franglais:
Very windy.
Can’t see they would load trailers with the load hanging in the sheets, but if wind got under the roof, blew it so it became entangled with summat, it would pull out the toprails etc…
Pure guess of course…

Looks suspiciously like a sustained left hand bend and the load has shifted and gone through the curtain on the right side of the trailer ?.The other damage to the other trailers possibly being caused by the interaction of the lost load between the two trains running in opposite directions ?.It would be easier to blame the wind in that case than to admit what DVSA here already rightly knows that curtains are only supposed to keep the load dry not secure it.

Carryfast:

Franglais:
Very windy.
Can’t see they would load trailers with the load hanging in the sheets, but if wind got under the roof, blew it so it became entangled with summat, it would pull out the toprails etc…
Pure guess of course…

Looks suspiciously like a sustained left hand bend and the load has shifted and gone through the curtain on the right side of the trailer ?.The other damage to the other trailers possibly being caused by the interaction of the lost load between the two trains running in opposite directions ?.It would be easier to blame the wind in that case than to admit what DVSA here already rightly knows that curtains are only supposed to keep the load dry not secure it.

Did curtainside body manufacturers just have a fetish for stitching seat belt webbing into tarpaulin then?

Own Account Driver:

Carryfast:
Looks suspiciously like a sustained left hand bend and the load has shifted and gone through the curtain on the right side of the trailer ?.The other damage to the other trailers possibly being caused by the interaction of the lost load between the two trains running in opposite directions ?.It would be easier to blame the wind in that case than to admit what DVSA here already rightly knows that curtains are only supposed to keep the load dry not secure it.

Did curtainside body manufacturers just have a fetish for stitching seat belt webbing into tarpaulin then?

Explain the job that this is designed to do ?.

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Why design and pay for all this

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to do the same job as this ?

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