R.I.P. Mate......

Family of bridge plunge driver call for safety review

By Sarah Brett

22 November 2006
The family of the lorry driver whose vehicle was blown off the Foyle Bridge have called for a complete review of the policy to close the bridge in high winds.

The inquest into the death of 37-year-old Peter McGuinness heard yesterday that he would not have been allowed to cross any other similar bridge in the UK in a lorry in the weather of January 11 last year.

It emerged that while the Department of Regional Development’s (DRD) policy is to close the bridge when winds reach 50mph based on an average wind speed, gusts prior to the accident reached 78mph.

Gust speeds are still not measured on the Foyle Bridge today, the Roads Service confirmed.

The department was exonerated following an investigation using a consultancy firm whose engineering arm was already working on the bridge to strengthen it.

Hyder Consulting found that the procedures put in place by DRD Roads Service were “reasonable” given that the bridge did not have a history of accidents.

Constable Neil Fenn from Strand Road police station told the court that following procedure he liaised with the Roads Service and was told they were monitoring the situation.

“I was told the high winds would miss the bridge,” he said.

The Met office had predicted winds of up to 65mph that afternoon.

Three men who witnessed the accident gave evidence yesterday that they were on their way home together after being forced to stop work because of the wind.

They described seeing the lorry being severely buffeted and forced into the nearside lane with its wheels lifting off the road.

“The driver seemed to be fighting to correct it and it was snaking - then the cab went over the side taking the trailer with it”, said James McCusker.

He raced to the scene below where Mr McGuinness’ lorry had crashed onto mudflats.

“I saw him hanging upside-down in the cab. His face was grey. I noticed a small trickle of blood coming from his mouth. He seemed to be dead.”

Mr McGuinness’ employer Paul Hannon later told the court that the deceased had some 16 years experience.

The McGuinness’ solicitor told journalists yesterday that the family particularly wanted to thank the people of Derry for their help that day.

He said they were both “disappointed and angry” with the bridge closure policy.

"The family have been suffering for almost two years waiting for this inquest to be held.

"It defies belief that somebody didn’t understand that the policy to close the bridge when winds reached 50mph should be based on gusts and not a mean average of overall wind speed.

"The family believe that there should be a review of the policy on the basis that if Peter had been trying to get onto any other similar bridge in the UK he wouldn’t have been allowed and he would still be here today.

“The McGuinnesses are well known in the Lurgan area. Anyone that knew Peter knew he was a gentleman.”

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=715526

My condolances to his family and friends. Looks like an avoidable tragedy.

Are there grounds for a driver refusing to drive excessively windy conditions?

TC

Depends on the employer i suppose, but i’ve pulled in under a motorway bridge in the past.

That particular bridge is treacherous at the best of times, 30mph in the fast lane is how i approach it :slight_smile:

My deepest symapthy to all his family. :cry:

Yet another one of us,going about his daily business,and probably looking forward to getting home,and despite what we all think of other drivers,it makes you stop and think how dangerous our chose profession is.

Ken.

A similar thing happened a few years ago on the A1(M) just north of junction 36 wher the road crosses the River Don.

There are a lot of these bridges about which do not have enough protection for the motorist in the way of crash barriers.

The accident looked horrific and perhaps the authorities should sit down and look at the safety measures on that bridge as it seems that it is not the first time this has happened.

My deepest sympathies to the drivers family.

after all this time i wouldn’t think his family would like to see it drag up again,news was posted on Tuesday, 11 January, 2005, 23:30 GMT …

i was just going to post something along the lines of, wasn’t there an identical accident last year?

oddsodz:
after all this time i wouldn’t think his family would like to see it drag up again,news was posted on Tuesday, 11 January, 2005, 23:30 GMT …

Thats why I searched forum before posting and titled my post “an update”

Latest post concerns the inquest, it might not be of interest to you, but it was to me, and may have been to others!

ONE very relevant POINT is HAVE they learnt from this

dreadful accident,and if not why not,AS stated in the

newspaper article, anywhere else this would not have

happened as the BRIDGE would have been closed

also it shows agreat deficient in the safety of all

those who use this BRIDGE ,in addition have the

safety barriers been modified so that they give

a better chance of stopping any vehicle which

has the missfortune tocrash against them

Also the family themselves have been fighting

to get improvements to the BRIDGE so that

SUCH ACCIDENTS do not happen again…

I think there was a knee-jerk reaction for a while after the accident, but as was stated at the inquest, they still dont measure gust speeds.

I have to say that having seen the extent of damage to the crash barrier a few days after the accident, i’d been of the opinion that speed was a major factor but there was no mention of it at the inquest.

I hate driving in strong winds when it’s gusting . You can’t see it coming it just hits you .

Hooly:

oddsodz:
after all this time i wouldn’t think his family would like to see it drag up again,news was posted on Tuesday, 11 January, 2005, 23:30 GMT …

Thats why I searched forum before posting and titled my post “an update”

Latest post concerns the inquest, it might not be of interest to you, but it was to me, and may have been to others!

hindsight is a wonderful thing,they new about the wind all along,a few more euro’s and it would have not happened,

A mate of mine went over a bridge a few years back,he never drove again,never got over the fear of it happening again.

We get trucks blown over every year in high winds,still they never shut the roads,

brit pete, this is the town that i am from and as far as o know the barriers have not had any modifications made to them/// only recently there was a multi million pound investment spent on strengthening the bridge. but as far as i kow there was not one penny spent on strengthening the barriers. i do believe tho that the wind literally lifted the lorry of the ground and more or less lifted it over the barriers. in terms of safety and better barriers what do you guys have in mind that would stop accidents like this happeng, it would need to be a high barrier.

on the day of the accident i was driving a low loader which is always allot better in stromg winds. about 1 mile down the road there was another lorry blown over on an open area of road, i believed it belonged to J.P Corry scrap yard… and i have heard that on this day there was other lorrys blowen over in the derry area, in this case this bridge most defnitly should of been closed. the council had loads of warnings and surly the police should of had the sense to close it when there was lorrys blown over that were not on bridges…

i remember days that the bridge has been closed due to strong winds, and the winds wernt even that bad.

R.I.P

in addition to my other post. there also has now been those electronic visual thingys that tell you when there is a strong wind and that tell you to slow down and stuff.

northernirishinlpool:
what do you guys have in mind that would stop accidents like this happeng, it would need to be a high barrier.

The new Boyne Bridge at Drogheda has pretty hefty looking barriers, though as a rule most bridges in Ireland have barriers that would struggle to stop a car going through never mind a lorry.

Not a good way to go
:cry:

no m8 its not right is it :frowning:

Can you believe that used to be a Mulgrew Haulage 4 series Scania?
Scary to think what was going through that guy’s mind when it happened,
deepest sympathy to his family.

deepest sympathies to his family R.I.P. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

My deepest sympathies to his family and friends, a tragedy. :frowning: