Stuck in Volvo waiting on a part to come in. When I got here I removed my card and I’m here about 3 and a half hours. My question is, what does this time count as rest or POA or other work?
I suppose it depends what you put it on before ejecting it
Legally speaking, depends on whether or not Volvo have given you a time for your truck to be ready. In the real world you can count it for whatever you want, personally speaking I would book it as POA.
I’d book it as break, and as it is over 3 hours you can call it rest and take a 9 tonight without it counting as one of your reduced daily rests, which depending on your circumstances could be the difference in getting home earlier for the long weekend.
sammy:
Stuck in Volvo waiting on a part to come in. When I got here I removed my card and I’m here about 3 and a half hours. My question is, what does this time count as rest or POA or other work?
personally i would book it as break as i am not in the truck, i can freely dispose of my time,i.e go for a walk have a ■■■ ect and then you can take a 9 hr break and it will count as a full nights rest and not a reduced one 
Break it is so, thanks lads.
Quick Answer: Anything other than driving
theonlybigman:
Quick Answer: Anything other than driving
how do you book driving on a digi after removing card:?: 
green456:
theonlybigman:
Quick Answer: Anything other than drivinghow do you book driving on a digi after removing card:?:
Manual entry after re-inserting 
theonlybigman:
green456:
theonlybigman:
Quick Answer: Anything other than drivinghow do you book driving on a digi after removing card:?:
Manual entry after re-inserting
its not possible to select drive on a manual entry
Why did you remove it? It would have been best to leave it in surely?
Bud143:
Why did you remove it? It would have been best to leave it in surely?
Surely not. 
The fitter will likely drive it in and out of the workshop and possibly even take it for a road test, which would all get recorded on his card. Makes much more sense to remove it and make a manual entry for the time the card was out when you get the vehicle back.
Technically it is POA. At any time that mechanic could say right, it’s ready to go unless you have told him you won’t be back for ‘x’ amount of time and you are not on duty ! Sitting around waiting for the repair / part is POA. If you say you will be back after 2 hours then the 2 hours is your break. After that is POA as you are ready to work at the given go ahead ! If you are doing anything else such as working on a job in the yard perhaps then your tacho should show crossed hammers (on duty).
Kerbdog:
Technically it is POA. At any time that mechanic could say right, it’s ready to go unless you have told him you won’t be back for ‘x’ amount of time and you are not on duty ! Sitting around waiting for the repair / part is POA. If you say you will be back after 2 hours then the 2 hours is your break. After that is POA as you are ready to work at the given go ahead ! If you are doing anything else such as working on a job in the yard perhaps then your tacho should show crossed hammers (on duty).
To be legitimate POA, rather than the Hooky POA that most people book, the mechanic would have needed to have said “it will take three hours to do this work” when he arrived. Although I don’t know of anyone ever being checked up on that they knew the duration of the POA beforehand.
Poa and breaks are recorded in slot 2 just thought could have done it that way
Bud143:
Poa and breaks are recorded in slot 2 just thought could have done it that way
If you are going to take the card out it’s just as easy to wait and do a manual entry than mess around with slot 2. Plus you could set it to break and when the vehicle moves it will switch to POA and could potentially rob you of the break, or in the OP’s case a 3+ hour rest toward a split daily rest.
True never thought of that
starfighter:
Kerbdog:
Technically it is POA. At any time that mechanic could say right, it’s ready to go unless you have told him you won’t be back for ‘x’ amount of time and you are not on duty ! Sitting around waiting for the repair / part is POA. If you say you will be back after 2 hours then the 2 hours is your break. After that is POA as you are ready to work at the given go ahead ! If you are doing anything else such as working on a job in the yard perhaps then your tacho should show crossed hammers (on duty).To be legitimate POA, rather than the Hooky POA that most people book, the mechanic would have needed to have said “it will take three hours to do this work” when he arrived. Although I don’t know of anyone ever being checked up on that they knew the duration of the POA beforehand.
If you are in a commercial workshop, you will not be allowed to enter the workshops, he already said he was there for 3 hours. How could he know this, well maybe the part was coming from another depot and it was at least 2 hours drive away, it will then take an hour or so to fit it.
What is the alternative, you can go and sit in the rest room, go to the shops or nearest cafe, you are not working, you don’t need to use POA, some dealers in Europe even have a shower & bedrooms where you take your bedding and make yourself at home.
I will always use the bed symbol, if you manage to get 3 hours REST it is a bonus, if not you have had time for a snooze or a sandwich on a long BREAK
It also advises you that if your vehicle is likely to be moved that you should remove your driver card and use manual entries.
That’s my point, if they told him a time it’s kosher. If they didnt then it should be break. However who would know whether he was told anything or not.
If you get paid breaks, book it as a break, get a split daily rest in
If not, book it as POA