This is the scenario. I broke down late last night minutes before stopping for daily rest. Had daily rest, put card in on POA at 5am. DAFaid appeared at 6 am this morning. Alternator belt replaced…1.5 hours driving then followed. Belt snapped again! I am still waiting for DAFaid to come and replace the belt and air con pump (seized).
Now, technically, I should put it on daily rest no later than 6pm tonight = 13 hours. At least, this is what I assume. I have had it on POA for most of the day. What I am unsure of though is, am I allowed to ignore this rule and drive back to base once fixed due to unforeseen/ extenuating circumstances? This is approx a 3.5 half hour drive by the way, or should I stay here for an 11 hour daily rest and head off in the morning?
RobRob:
This is the scenario. I broke down late last night minutes before stopping for daily rest. Had daily rest, put card in on POA at 5am. DAFaid appeared at 6 am this morning. Alternator belt replaced…1.5 hours driving then followed. Belt snapped again! I am still waiting for DAFaid to come and replace the belt and air con pump (seized).
Now, technically, I should put it on daily rest no later than 6pm tonight = 13 hours. At least, this is what I assume. I have had it on POA for most of the day. What I am unsure of though is, am I allowed to ignore this rule and drive back to base once fixed due to unforeseen/ extenuating circumstances? This is approx a 3.5 half hour drive by the way, or should I stay here for an 11 hour daily rest and head off in the morning?
Do you have a reduced daily rest of 9 hours available?
RobRob:
This is the scenario. I broke down late last night minutes before stopping for daily rest. Had daily rest, put card in on POA at 5am. DAFaid appeared at 6 am this morning. Alternator belt replaced…1.5 hours driving then followed. Belt snapped again! I am still waiting for DAFaid to come and replace the belt and air con pump (seized).
Now, technically, I should put it on daily rest no later than 6pm tonight = 13 hours. At least, this is what I assume. I have had it on POA for most of the day. What I am unsure of though is, am I allowed to ignore this rule and drive back to base once fixed due to unforeseen/ extenuating circumstances? This is approx a 3.5 half hour drive by the way, or should I stay here for an 11 hour daily rest and head off in the morning?
Do you a reduced daily rest of 9 hours available?
If yes the you can finish your shift at 8pm
Can you clarify that please mate?
I’m assuming you mean, do I have a 15 left? No, unfortunately!
RobRob:
This is the scenario. I broke down late last night minutes before stopping for daily rest. Had daily rest, put card in on POA at 5am. DAFaid appeared at 6 am this morning. Alternator belt replaced…1.5 hours driving then followed. Belt snapped again! I am still waiting for DAFaid to come and replace the belt and air con pump (seized).
Now, technically, I should put it on daily rest no later than 6pm tonight = 13 hours. At least, this is what I assume. I have had it on POA for most of the day. What I am unsure of though is, am I allowed to ignore this rule and drive back to base once fixed due to unforeseen/ extenuating circumstances? This is approx a 3.5 half hour drive by the way, or should I stay here for an 11 hour daily rest and head off in the morning?
Do you a reduced daily rest of 9 hours available?
If yes the you can finish your shift at 8pm
Can you clarify that please mate?
The usual daily rest period is 11 hours in the 24 hour period from when you started a shift after the end of the previous rest period but that can be rduced to as little as 9 hours three times between weekly rest periods
From ending your last WEEKLY rest period have you reduced any of your daily rests periods to less than 11 hours?
13 hours would be the max shift time in a 24 hour period if you had 11 hours off in 24 but 15 hours would be the max if you took 9 hours rest in 24
RobRob:
I’m assuming you mean, do I have a 15 left? No, unfortunately!
Just seen you added that bit so 6pm it is then for starting a rest period
I assume you can have a daily rest and not have to start a weekly rest because more than 144 hours have elapsed from the end of your last weekly rest period ?
RobRob:
This is the scenario. I broke down late last night minutes before stopping for daily rest. Had daily rest, put card in on POA at 5am. DAFaid appeared at 6 am this morning. Alternator belt replaced…1.5 hours driving then followed. Belt snapped again! I am still waiting for DAFaid to come and replace the belt and air con pump (seized).
Now, technically, I should put it on daily rest no later than 6pm tonight = 13 hours. At least, this is what I assume. I have had it on POA for most of the day. What I am unsure of though is, am I allowed to ignore this rule and drive back to base once fixed due to unforeseen/ extenuating circumstances? This is approx a 3.5 half hour drive by the way, or should I stay here for an 11 hour daily rest and head off in the morning?
Do you a reduced daily rest of 9 hours available?
If yes the you can finish your shift at 8pm
Can you clarify that please mate?
The usual daily rest period is 11 hours in the 24 hour period from when you started a shift after the end of the previous rest period but that can be rduced to as little as 9 hours three times between weekly rest periods
From ending your last WEEKLY rest period have you reduced any of your daily rests periods to less than 11 hours?
13 hours would be the max shift time in a 24 hour period if you had 11 hours off in 24 but 15 hours would be the max if you took 9 hours rest in 24
Thanks Rog!
I Assume there are no special allowances for a breakdown?
RobRob:
I don’t think I will make it home but ill be able to get the hell out of Liverpool! That counts for a lot!
Hope I helped you a bit
As you noticed, its the rest periods in 24 hours that are the important bit rather than the length of the shifts after all, a shift could be 13 hours and followed by a 9 hour rest before the next shift starts
Many assume that because a shift is 13 hours or less then the driver must have had a full daily rest but that is not a good assumption to make
RobRob:
This is the scenario. I broke down late last night minutes before stopping for daily rest. Had daily rest, put card in on POA at 5am. DAFaid appeared at 6 am this morning. Alternator belt replaced…1.5 hours driving then followed. Belt snapped again! I am still waiting for DAFaid to come and replace the belt and air con pump (seized).
Now, technically, I should put it on daily rest no later than 6pm tonight = 13 hours. At least, this is what I assume. I have had it on POA for most of the day. What I am unsure of though is, am I allowed to ignore this rule and drive back to base once fixed due to unforeseen/ extenuating circumstances? This is approx a 3.5 half hour drive by the way, or should I stay here for an 11 hour daily rest and head off in the morning?
so, if it is the main fan belt that has snapped, why is DAFAid changing the air con compressor at the side of the road?
the air con compressor works off a different fan belt to the rest of the system, if the compressor is seized then why not just fit the new fan belt and remove the air con belt?
change the compressor when it goes in for a 6 weekly, will be cheaper on the labour rates
The air con compressor and alternator shares belt. It is this belt that went due to seized compressor.
All fixed now…just! The bloke left 10 minutes ago. Not bad going seeing as it happened a 1030 this morning!!!
As an added bonus the boss has given me Monday off for being stuck here all day!
RobRob:
The air con compressor and alternator shares belt. It is this belt that went due to seized compressor.
All fixed now…just! The bloke left 10 minutes ago. Not bad going seeing as it happened a 1030 this morning!!!
As an added bonus the boss has given me Monday off for being stuck here all day!
What a boss, you sit on your arse and do nowt all day, earn nothing for the company and it also has to pay out for repairs. And in compensation for this, you get a day off
Why didn’t you just put it on break when you were sat there doing nothing? You weren’t driving and weren’t working, so break, then if it took them 11hrs, you would’ve had 13hrs to get home
RobRob:
The air con compressor and alternator shares belt. It is this belt that went due to seized compressor.
All fixed now…just! The bloke left 10 minutes ago. Not bad going seeing as it happened a 1030 this morning!!!
As an added bonus the boss has given me Monday off for being stuck here all day!
What a boss, you sit on your arse and do nowt all day, earn nothing for the company and it also has to pay out for repairs. And in compensation for this, you get a day off
Why didn’t you just put it on break when you were sat there doing nothing? You weren’t driving and weren’t working, so break, then if it took them 11hrs, you would’ve had 13hrs to get home
you should have been on break rather than POA … cos you didnt know beforehand how long you would be sat there .
I would of used bed every time. Even if it was under 11 , I would of waited til 11hr was comlpeted.
So a split rest ( min 3hr + 9) is a ‘regular daily rest?’ An 11hr ? Or a 9hr (reduced).jus wanna clarify? As I 've had two of them this week. Carry on.
yuppie:
I would of used bed every time. Even if it was under 11 , I would of waited til 11hr was comlpeted.
So a split rest ( min 3hr + 9) is a ‘regular daily rest?’ An 11hr ? Or a 9hr (reduced).jus wanna clarify? As I 've had two of them this week. Carry on.
3+9=FULL DAILY REST
11 = FULL DR
LESS THAN 11 BUT MIN OF 9 = REDUCED DAILY REST
